Points help UPDATE

grandpa Love · Aug 16, 2020

New switch, old one was smoking. New coil. Points are sparking nice now. So are spark plugs. Took carb apart, for 10th time, cleaned it. Blew it out. Put it on. Tractor ran for 25-30 seconds and died. Had been running for just a few seconds and couldn't give it any throttle. This time we could. Revved up nice. And died. And won't start again.. Good steady flow if gas. Good clean gas. Starting fluid has no effect.

FBH44 · Aug 16, 2020

I had that, put on new distributor cap and new rotor, all fixed! Center electrode was worn too far down.

Steve@Advance · Aug 16, 2020

Is this the one you pulled home in the rain storm?

Maybe water condensing up under the distributor cap.

If that is the one that cam home in the rain, it needs to run soon, get the water out of the cylinders.

old · Aug 16, 2020

Pull the center wire from the cap and make sure you still have spark. You also might try running a hot wire from the battery ignition side to the ignition side of the coil and see if it will run as it should. If it runs as it should good chance you have a bad wire or connection some place

John T · Aug 16, 2020

You need to check now to see if it still has a spark (ignition problem) or not,,,,,,and if it does then it must be a lack of fuel problem

If starting fluid isn't helping that sounds more like an ignition problem

JUST SEE IF ITS PRODUCING A SPARK OR NOT so you can decide if its an ignition or a fuel problem

If its not firing, the problem could be.........Points,,,,,,Condensor,,,,,,Coil fails after warm up,,,,,,,,,Distributor problem,,,,,,,,,Dist cap or rotor problem

John T

Glen SW Wi · Aug 16, 2020

Sounds like something electrical if it won't even start on starting fluid. Spark must not be consistent.

Liquid_wrench · Aug 16, 2020

Try another condenser.

FLOLDFORD · Aug 16, 2020

Bring it to Florida and I'll make it run with a little help from John T

RCP · Aug 16, 2020

I recently found one of these testers on a tractor I purchased. It has been a helpful tool to diagnose running issues, you can easily see if the ignition is working.
Tester

J Hamilton · Aug 16, 2020

As someone else said, I'd try a different condenser. I had an Allis Chalmers that did the same thing last week and is was a bad condenser.

john in la · Aug 16, 2020

No sane reason to use starting fluid on a gas motor when a little spray of gas will do the same thing.

But it sure sounds like you have a spark problem.

Do you have spark at the coil and not at the plugs.
Then the problem is in the cap rotor wires plugs area.

No spark at the coil and your problem is in the distributor coil area.

Based on what you have done so far I would....
Make sure the wire from coil threw dist housing is not shorting out sometimes.
Make sure the points gap is still set properly. IE Dist shaft bushings worn.
Make sure the points are getting a good ground even when you move the advance plate around.

If all these check out I would try a different condenser.

Dean · Aug 16, 2020

Condenser?

Really?

Re-read my earlier re-post to your earlier post.

Dean

grandpa Love · Aug 16, 2020

Dean. Wish we would have stopped messing with it and read every response........ Hanging my head in embarrassment. Lol. Its a first for us . never had a condenser go bad.

John T · Aug 17, 2020

"never had a condenser go bad."

They don't go bad often HOWEVER it happens, heres the deal:

If its a dead short it kills the spark
If its total open it can still spark (albeit weaker) but the points will burn quick
Its possible they can start out working but once they heat up they can fail

John T

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