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Pete-IN

06-30-2020 13:33:04




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I know the green thing is a ruler. The other thing came from estate of old time Case dealer in Hicksville Ohio (yes there is a town named Hicksville). Was in a pile of stuff I bought and don't know what it does or what it is called.




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dr sportster

07-01-2020 06:36:35




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
It appears to be a valve spring compressor . It retails for 125 dollars.



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Hobo,NC

07-01-2020 04:57:30




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Vale spring tool would be my first guess if not it would work for one...



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wore out

06-30-2020 20:21:42




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
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A 6" clamp wouldn't fit over very darned big cylinder head, not to mention the added eight of the valve springs.

A typical valve spring compressor is 3X the size of that woodworking clamp.



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Mark Robke

06-30-2020 18:06:53




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Maybe some kind of pin press? Mark.



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Crazy Horse

06-30-2020 15:50:36




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Ha, what this be? This be a strange title for sure ..... LOL !! Maybe texting lingo, I guess that might explain it. Supr redy, gota git.



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TimV

06-30-2020 15:16:08




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Another possibility is a ball joint press. Not as robust as a purpose-built press but would probably work for smaller ones.



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rustred

06-30-2020 15:06:39




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
well if its a valve spring compressor it has been modified for small valves. also be pretty hard to get at the keepers with those braces in the way. its some specialty tool someone has come up with modifying this c clamp.



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wore out

06-30-2020 14:29:34




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
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Found it, a "Jorgensen" 6" c-clamp, apparently modified.



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jacksun65

06-30-2020 14:22:24




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
valve spring compressor used one in school in the 70s



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Crazy Horse

06-30-2020 14:45:35




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to jacksun65, 06-30-2020 14:22:24  
Jacksun ..... looks like one but how does it get around the valve/spring/keeper without having a slot in that add-on part at the bottom? I'd say someone has taken a regular c-clamp and modified it for a specif job but I don't see how it would work to compress a valve spring.



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wore out

06-30-2020 14:20:56




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
What does the lettering on it say, I can make out "175", what's the name under it?

GOOGLE may know, given that info.

(Seems odd you wouldn't tell us that in the first post, or post a more clear photo of that area.)



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Janicholson

06-30-2020 13:55:27




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Valve spring compressor. A For sure answer. Jim



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t.r.k.

06-30-2020 18:15:29




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Janicholson, 06-30-2020 13:55:27  
Yes, a shop-made valve spring compressor. A modified freeze plug welded to a C-clamp. Probably set up to do one particular cylinder head.

About 30 years ago, when I was in Tech. School taking Auto mechanics, we broke the jaws on the valve spring compressor. ('We' was not me personally.)

One of the instructors, also a welding instructor took the compressor and a freeze plug and left. About 1/2 hour later he returned with the 'repaired' valve spring compressor. He had drilled about a 3/4" hole in the freeze plug and welded it between the remains of the jaws. It worked find on small block Chevy heads. The freeze plug stayed right on the valve retainer and the keepers and valve stem pushed right up through the hole.

I later bought one at a flea market, and fixed it the same way.

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Crazy Horse

06-30-2020 15:47:11




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Janicholson, 06-30-2020 13:55:27  
Tell me Jim, how could it possibly work for a valve installed in place with a spring and a keeper of some kind? I'd say it would be impossible unless you wanted to do some hacksaw work to create a slot in that add-on part which has been welded on.



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Janicholson

06-30-2020 16:18:12




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Crazy Horse, 06-30-2020 15:47:11  
Well one reason for "normal valve spring compressors to have a fork like opening is that it allows the adjustment of the fork to accommodate different valve retainer diameters. This one is home made to be used on a specific retainer size. the tool is placed with the ring over the retainer, and the screw on the valve head. The mechanic tightens the device then taps on the ring to unseat the keepers. the ring continues downward until the keepers are free to be removed. Once removed the spring is released until the valve spring is relaxed. at that point, the stem butt is below the ring , and the device is removed. I see no issues at all. This design, though limited to those the ring fits, would be more stable than the forked type. Jim

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Crazy Horse

06-30-2020 16:25:17




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Janicholson, 06-30-2020 16:18:12  
How do you get the "ring" part over (or under) the retainer if the assembly is in the installed/working position? The fork design is two-fold in purpose, one is the adjustment you mentioned but more importantly, it allows the tool to be put in place to work. My minds eye tells me that it would be impossible without somehow compressing the assembly to put the tool in place as you describe. And that is the purpose of the tool in the first place, to compress the assembly.

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Janicholson

06-30-2020 20:11:41




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Crazy Horse, 06-30-2020 16:25:17  
This is for an overhead valve engine with the head off. It would not work (and is not intended ) for a valve in block engine. Thus there is literally nothing in the road for the ring to be set over the retainer and pushing the stem up through the hole to retrieve the keeper pieces. Jim



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Crazy Horse

07-01-2020 04:34:15




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Janicholson, 06-30-2020 20:11:41  
OK, I was thinking flatheads .... sorted out now. Hard to tell what kind of size we're dealing with here, from the photo a pretty small engine of some kind, that round ring or collar looks pretty tiny. Somehow I am still leaning towards a one-off purpose that somebody pieced together. Anyways, interesting stuff.



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Case Nutty 1660

06-30-2020 14:37:36




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Janicholson, 06-30-2020 13:55:27  
X2



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560Dennis

06-30-2020 13:37:07




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 Re: What This Be? in reply to Pete-IN, 06-30-2020 13:33:04  
Universal jointer



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