JimB2 584 hydraulic help

Oldiron29

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JimB2 I change over to draft control return? steel pipe from it to top of unit under seat capped off. return fitting far left when in seat. Lost my 3pt. power steering works no pressure to loader. Kept return to where drain plug was, If I tap off draft control does the return have to go back to top of unit under seat? striking out here!
 
Hi oldiron29, see attached photo below the #2 is how a Canadian 584 is connected for a Loader.
Item #38 the remote control valve has a 90 Degree elbow(circled in blue) on top that is connected to item #39 a hydraulic pipe that goes to the draft control.
We remove item #39 hydraulic pipe and cap the inlet to the draft control, loosen the lock nut on the 90 Degree elbow turn it towards the front and tighten lock nut and then connect item #30 the Input hydraulic line to the loader remote valve and connect the Outlet hydraulic hose to the drain plug under the axle.

So your USA assembled 584 does not have the 90 Degree elbow on top of the remote hydraulic valve like #2 in the photo?

I tried looking at the caseih.com parts site but this new parts site gives only a generic description for the parts, no indication of function.
I also looked at my I&T shop service manual for 684 and it does not give a clear picture of the hydraulic flow.

Before you change the loader Outlet hydraulic hose from the drain plug to the capped end of the draft control, you have to determine which end of the pipe that you removed is the high pressure end and connect that to the Input of the loader valve.

Probably the best solution for your USA 584 is the #1 in the attached photo requiring the purchase of the correct Power Beyond plate.

My apologies for all the mis-information, I did not realize that the USA assembled UK Doncaster tractors had a different hydraulic setup, I was aware of the electrics and the power steering.

JimB


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I'm not sure I quite understand what you are trying to do. If just connect a loader to the tractor with a separate valve the power beyond plate is probably the best though you will need to have a second stackable valve versus the one for the end of the stack to put the power beyond plate on to. If you are just not getting oil flow or lack of pressure. Then I would start with the oil level and filter. Also would use a gage on the rear couples to find out what pressure you have.
 
JimB2 I got a good tip on how some guys were doing the end cap hook up. will let you no tomorrow if it works. Has to do with caps with one hole.
 

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