Super Man Hydraulic Couplers Questions

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

Before I get back to it, what the heck are these darned thing for? Are they considered a standard hydraulic coupler? Lost about 20 minutes today
fighting to push those collars in to get the hoses on. They take about everything I got & I'm no sissy runt. They're going to go before my next hay
cutting. Anyone want to trade even up, these things for a pair of the old style IH couplers? They're currently on an 806. Same as the ones found on a
560 & the 400 I used to have. Any takers?

Mike

flying belgian · Jun 21, 2020

I can't imagine that the collar would be that hard to push forward. Maybe spray them with a little wd-40.

fastfarmall · Jun 21, 2020

Well if there is any pressure in the hose, it can push real hard,i wouldn't take em if you give em too me!

retired farmer · Jun 21, 2020

You have the pressure off the hoses and tractor before hooking up? If both halves of the fittings are not made by the same company, sometimes they can be a little hard to couple.

dzc3 · Jun 21, 2020

Check out Stucchi couplers just a little bit money than the ones you find at the farm store but will connect under pressure, any good hydraulic shop or implement dealer should carry them or can get them

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

Nope, no pressure in the hose & no pressure in the coupler. It's the spring in the collar that's a bear to push. They had a newfangled CaseIH part number ending in A & I can't remember what it was.

Don't blame ya for not wanting them.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

They are or at least were brand new as of a couple years ago. That spring in the collar is something else. You can spin it just fine. Don't even feel any dirt crackling against the balls in it. They are fairly new.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

Yep, there's no pressure in the hoses. No pressure to the couplers either. I've been doing it with the tractor off & I cycle the valve handle. The male ends are Pioneer. The female ends on the tractor are through CaseIH. I think they're Pioneer, not sure. It's the collar itself that's a pain to push in. Takes everything I got & then a little bit of PO'd to get them to push in.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

I will do that. They can't be more expensive than the ones that are on there. I gave almost a C-note a piece for them.

Mike

used red MN · Jun 21, 2020

Sounds like to much ..hydraulic kryptonite.. Lol! I know this bends some folks out of joint here when you post OT, Come on give me a break I a father, should be allowed a little fun today.

used red MN · Jun 21, 2020

Probably should have did the serious post first. Generally when there is no pressure in the hose the male coupler can be pushed in a little, there is a fair bit of resistance though. When you do this the outer sleeve can ..generally.. be moved back easily. Try this with an air quick coupler. Clamp the female end in a vise ..note proper spelling.. and couple a second hose or air tool in it. Now see how much easier the coupler release ring slides to the release position when you shove the male part in over coming the spring and air pressure. Not saying that these hydraulic couplers are not just a difficult style.

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 21, 2020

Should definitely be allowed some fun everyday. Certainly not off topic as these are on the side of my tractor. At least I didn't post something on topic in the Off Topic board. Lol!

Regards & hope you had a great Fathers Day,

Mike

super99 · Jun 21, 2020

OK, I have Olivers that do not relieve pressure on the hydraulics, everything is hooked and unhooked under pressure, Will these work for me? I looked at Northern Hydraulics, $29 for the female and $28 for the male ends. Price is good if they would work for me.

560farm · Jun 21, 2020

Try pulling the coupler body towards you. I have a set like what you have pictured and that's how they are.

Brad

fixerupper · Jun 21, 2020

It seems to me like I made a tool to lever that female coupler forward or back on a tractor I owned years ago. Could something like that be rigged up To pry the collar back or forward for yours? We should not have to resort to using tools though. My vote is for the coupler that can be coupled under pressure. I have a couple of them on my Oliver 88. They have IH stamped on the side and are at least 40 years old. I flip a little lever on the coupler to couple the hose then flip the lever back after the hose is coupled.

wore out · Jun 21, 2020

Realize that those coupler bodies are designed to be mounted in a "holder" that fits the sleeve and will probably allow easy coupling simply by the pressure of the male tip against the body.

The way you are using them they are more difficult to couple because the pipe fittings hold the body stationary and there's no "holder" holding the sleeves as the body would move under the force of trying to couple them.

Also, when mounted as yours are the "breakaway" function can't work.

If it's important to you to make coupling easier, you could purchase the correct holder/mount for the bodies and mount it with the coupler bodies installed, connecting them to the tractor with hydraulic hoses with a bit of slack or a "loop" in them to allow free movement of the coupler bodies, as required.

Example of a holder or mount, dunno if this is the correct version for your couplers.

caterpillar guy · Jun 22, 2020

If your using things at the rear of the tractor why are you using the side couplers? Those were intended for mounted cultivators to lift them. There should be couplers at the back of the tractor. If not they can be added under the seat by putting either a couple 7/8-14 thread elbows on with hoses connected to them and the coupler which would make them much easier to work with or there were lines for them to connect to hoses. I have both on my 806 it was like that when I got it. I do use one of the side ones for the snow plow in the winter.

BarnyardEngineering · Jun 22, 2020

(quoted from post at 13:11:50 06/21/20) Before I get back to it, what the heck are these darned thing for? Are they considered a standard hydraulic coupler? Lost about 20 minutes today
fighting to push those collars in to get the hoses on.

Those are the WRONG couplers! What you have there are "breakaway" style couplers, which are meant to be on the ends of hoses and mounted in a breakaway coupler frame similar to this:

The sleeves are held and the "cores" float, so you can push the hose in to connect and pull the hose to disconnect.

BarnyardEngineering · Jun 22, 2020

Oops, guess someone already covered that. Didn't see page 2.

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 22, 2020

Ohhh! That would explain the gold colored breakaway frame I found out in the garage this spring. Didn't quite fit the older style IH couplers so I
hung it back on the pegboard. Figured it just came with a bunch of parts. Lol! I'll have to put it to use for its intended purpose.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 22, 2020

I didn't know there were threaded ports under the seat. I'll have to go that route. I've been looking for a second rear manifold with the steel lines, but haven't run across one yet. They're not the easiest to come by.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 22, 2020

Yeah, I had a moment. The holder was hanging in front of my nose above the workbench & I didn't think of it. Should have known, as it's the same color
as the couplers... but the silly thing didn't fit the old style ones so I didn't give it much thought. I'll have to do some swapping around today.
Good job for a rain day.

Mike

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 22, 2020

I had thought about rigging something up to act as a lever. There's an unused boss with an untapped hole right above them that would have made a good
mount. However, after reading a couple other responses to my post, I've come to realize the bracket hanging above my workbench is the right holder to
mount those couplers on the back of the tractor. Think I'll go that route.

I do know of the hydraulic valves, with the lever, you're talking about. Recall seeing them on the new 66 & 86 series IH tractors. There must have
been a retro-fit kit for the earlier tractors. Think I've seen a set on a 1206. May have to find one.

Mike

dzc3 · Jun 22, 2020

Yes they will

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