UPDATE: JD 328 baler issues

K Effective

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Thanks to all who made suggestions. I dove deep into my manual and studied the mystery that is a knotter. With suggestions to check the wiper gap and knife sharpness, I followed the instructions and removed the carriage bolt, allowing the knotter to rotate up and over. I've never done that before, literally, I just greased the zerks every year and nothing more. Knives are sharp and wipers tight.

So, I wanted to check my duckbill release pressure, and found the arm that closes it and it's spring. I opened it up, and checked the bottom jaw of the duckbill, and to my surprise, found the deep groove in there of a sisal duckbill. I was told that by the early 1990's all the balers came with the universal duckbill to handle either sisal or plastic twine. This one definitely has the sisal one, which would explain the two rolls of old sisal that came with it.

I had swapped over to new plastic right away, figuring I wanted no part of 30 year old twine messing up my new baler. Sure enough, when I spliced in the old sisal and gave it a shot, it made 20 straight perfect knots. My help showed up and we finished with 498 bales from five acres, not one single missed knot of any kind.

Thanks again, for your help and directions, I learned something new and now have much more confidence to repair future issues myself! AND, my baler works GREAT!!
 
I have thought about trying sisal in mine. I doubt they had plastic in 64.
I have heard sisal is junk now days. How is yours holding up.?
 
I helped a neighbor bale and we has
problems till the t6olls switched. The new
bundle has thin and thick places and makes
would bust because the twine was so thin.
This was twine from deere.
 
(quoted from post at 20:40:05 06/13/20) Thanks to all who made suggestions. I dove deep into my manual and studied the mystery that is a knotter. With suggestions to check the wiper gap and knife sharpness, I followed the instructions and removed the carriage bolt, allowing the knotter to rotate up and over. I've never done that before, literally, I just greased the zerks every year and nothing more. Knives are sharp and wipers tight.

So, I wanted to check my duckbill release pressure, and found the arm that closes it and it's spring. I opened it up, and checked the bottom jaw of the duckbill, and to my surprise, found the deep groove in there of a sisal duckbill. I was told that by the early 1990's all the balers came with the universal duckbill to handle either sisal or plastic twine. This one definitely has the sisal one, which would explain the two rolls of old sisal that came with it.

I had swapped over to new plastic right away, figuring I wanted no part of 30 year old twine messing up my new baler. Sure enough, when I spliced in the old sisal and gave it a shot, it made 20 straight perfect knots. My help showed up and we finished with 498 bales from five acres, not one single missed knot of any kind.

Thanks again, for your help and directions, I learned something new and now have much more confidence to repair future issues myself! AND, my baler works GREAT!!


Congratulations! For future reference your "duck bill" is called a "bill hook."
 
When plastic first came out many years ago we would have to switch knotters to make the baler tie plastic. The billhook wouldn't close tight enough to be able to grasp the twine and make the knot.
 
I ran sisal in a round baler on the dairy forget the brand but it
was pretty good stuff it held the bales together a lot better
than the plastic and it also stayed threaded in the twine arms
and cut better than the plastic
 
Sisal 9000 from farm store works
fine in my 336…put new knotters
on from Deere 10 years ago. Like
the natural product and
biodegradable
 
Congratulations! I remember the first time
that I repaired a baler. They are a
complicated machine, but if you follow the
steps in the manual, even I fixed some. The
guy that invented the knotter was a genius!
 
Congratulations! For future reference your "duck bill" is called a "bill hook."

:oops: :oops: :eek:ops

Of course, you're right. As much as I read about them you'd think I would remember.

The twine is old, probably from 1992 when the baler was bought and stored, but it worked perfectly. We switched from sisal to plastic as we reuse a lot of pieces in our vineyard to tie up young plants, and the plastic survives a winter better. I have enough to last a few years, and can buy a roll if really needed. Still toying with going to round bales...
 
Have a 328. Determined to use sisal and fought knotter for several years. Finally gave in and switched. Now hardly ever misses. Changed nothing when I switched.
 

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