Equipment Upgrade

BradyW · Apr 29, 2020

Will I decide to upgrade my Haybine to a Discbine , I have been doing research on these for awhile, I went with a New Idea 5209 replacing my old New Holland 469. Bought it at my uncle?s auction so it was a one owner unit.

Any advice or tips welcome!

Thanks

Bruce from Can. · Apr 30, 2020

Looks like a nice machine, and you know how your uncle kept his equipment, and have an idea of how much work it has done, so that is valuable history when purchasing a used piece of farm equipment. While not specific to this disc mower/conditioner , I think you will love cutting hay with a discbind. Best of luck ! Bruce

tomstractorsandtoys · Apr 30, 2020

You will be very happy with your change to a discbine. I have used NH,New Idea and now have a Deere. All are good machines. The New Idea you have is a very popular machine and was still in production as a Massey Ferguson a few years ago(maybe still is). One mistake I see disbine owners often make is cutting to low. That gets very hard on a grass stand(alfalfa will take it) also letting some stubble keeps the windrow off the ground so a little more air can get under it. It seems like all discbines somewhat throw the hay to the ground making it tighter to the ground that what a haybine did. Before I bought my Deere 920 I ran one just like you have up to the last bid. Tom

showcrop · Apr 30, 2020

The biggest thing to remember about mowing with a disc MOCO is that you have the capability of getting twice as much hay rained on as you used to. Be sure to change the oil in the header at least every year. Hot of course.

BarnyardEngineering · Apr 30, 2020

The red version is the better of the New Idea 5209. Very desirable machine in my experience. Can't hardly give the gray ones away but the red ones bring good money still. The cutter bar is much more modular and easy to service.

One thing you will not miss is the hammering and banging if you happen to suck in part of another windrow such as when you're cleaning up that last little sliver of hay in a field. Discbines don't care. They just pick it up and spit it out.

coshoo · Apr 30, 2020

Unless you're in hot country where getting the hay dry is not a problem, you'll want to consider adjusting/modifying the rear part so the hay just goes straight out the back rather than making a windrow. Reduces drying time by a bunch.

How old is it? Looks new. I'll bet your uncle did well on his sale.

Adirondack case guy · Apr 30, 2020

There is a shield behind the conditioning rolls that will drop the hay in a full width swath when adjusted down and when up, it allows the hay to flow back through the shields forming a windrow. No modifications needed!!-----------------------------Loren

showcrop · Apr 30, 2020

As coshoo said it depends on what part of the country you are in. Here in the northeast nobody lays it down wide since they went to the sickle bar MOCOs. It slows drying way down when you drive over it lying on the ground and press it down into the moist earth. Unless your ground tends to be dry you put it into swaths and allow the sun to dry the ground in between for a few hours and then ted it out.

Northvale PA · May 1, 2020

I bought a 5209 about 10 years ago. Best thing I ever did regarding hay. I mostly mow in the evening after work and by the time I am done the hay is soaking wet with dew. No problems. I can literally set my clock to how fast I can mow a field. Mowing wet 1st cut hay was always a challenge with a haybine no matter how good I had the knives sharp and set. A few things I did: read the manual and checked everything mentioned. Checked the rotor hubs grease level, sharpen the knives with a grinder often. Grease all zerks every 4 acres. We set the shields for the widest swath and tedd the next morning. This is a relatively light machine which I wanted behind my 4020. The tractor is 60 years old and I did not want to put a hurting on it.

rockyridgefarm · May 1, 2020

The 5209 was probably almost every farmers first disc mower/conditioner around here. Supposedly the Amish are now buying them up because they are lighter than other models and can be pulled by horses. I had been looking to buy one a few years back, but ended up buying a Gehl 2365. After a few years, I wanted a center pivot and got a Gehl 2415 that I use now. They are also good units.

You will probably get someone to tell you that you are gonna waste fuel. Consumption per hour will go up because you are gonna get twice as much done. Consumption per acre will increase negligibly, and it will be worth it for all the aggravation you are gonna save.

I think you are really going to like the hydraulic tongue. You will be tweaking the angle of the drawbar constantly, and wonder how you made it so long with a manual one. The hydraulic opening rollers will also be something you really like. If you somehow plug it, you just lift it up. The rolls automatically separate when it is all they way up.

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