Extremes In Truck Size

rusty6

Well-known Member
Happened to take this shot today when the Co-op fuel tanker was in my yard today. The big Freightliner and trailer move a lot of fuel in a hurry today compared to what the 49 Mercury would have done when it was new. The delivery man in 1950 would have loaded up a few 45 gallon barrels of 18 cent a gallon gas in the back of that 49 Mercury truck and brought it out to the farm. Pick up the empties to return to town.
I think today's diesel price was .89 cents a litre.
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(quoted from post at 22:56:27 02/24/20) Holy cow fuel there is expensive!
That price is actually down a bit from last fall. I think I have paid close to $1 a litre ($4.50 a gallon) at times. Right now a bushel of feed grade wheat will barely buy a gallon of fuel. Canola will buy two gallons.
 
That makes it pretty tough to be a farmer right
there! Makes a guy wonder at times . One year
road fuel hit 4.75$ a gallon and that makes farm
fuel around four an a quarter to 4.35$ Let?s just saw
that takes all fun you thought you were having right
out of it in a big hurry . Keep hoping fuel would go
under 2 and I?d fill my big tank but it hasn?t dropped
that much and now it?s going to start heading the
other way in about a week or ten days
 
We are paying.98 per litre for dyed diesel here in
Ontario. Probably price difference is due to Ontario
fuel tax. All of our file delivery trucks are straight
trucks. Many yards couldn?t handle a tractor trailer,
and the same trucks also deliver home heating oil,
and most home owners don?t have a suitable
driveway. We have had a very mild winter, and fuel
and propane use has been down quite a bit over
last year here in Ontario.
 
We are paying.98 per litre for dyed diesel here in
Ontario. Probably price difference is due to Ontario
fuel tax. All of our file delivery trucks are straight
trucks. Many yards couldn?t handle a tractor trailer,
and the same trucks also deliver home heating oil,
and most home owners don?t have a suitable
driveway. We have had a very mild winter, and fuel
and propane use has been down quite a bit over
last year here in Ontario. In your comparison
wheat/fuel, value/cost , last month milk from our
farm sold for $1.00/litre. So I can trade one litre of
milk for one litre of gas. Our milk components are
higher then average 5.3 %BF 4.00% protein.
Average milk price in Ontario last month closer to
.84cents
 
I filled my off road diesel tank in Dec. for 2.18 a gallon in Michigan. I was hoping it would drop to 2 bucks but decided that was
about as close to it I was going to get. Sure glad I didn't have to pay what you guys do though.
 
(quoted from post at 07:51:10 02/25/20) I filled my off road diesel tank in Dec. for 2.18 a gallon in Michigan. I was hoping it would drop to 2 bucks .
I have only fond memories of fuel prices ever being that low. We have a choice. Take it or leave it. Worst of it is the inputs don't drop in cost and some go up. Anhydrous was close to $1000 a tonne delivered last spring. Have not dared inquire yet as to this year's price. All our grain is now worth less than it was a year ago and a lot of it was low quality due to weather. Some still waits in the field to be harvested or burned in spring. Its not looking good.
 
(quoted from post at 07:16:05 02/25/20) We are paying.98 per litre for dyed diesel here in
Ontario. Probably price difference is due to Ontario
fuel tax. All of our file delivery trucks are straight
trucks. Many yards couldn?t handle a tractor trailer,
and the same trucks also deliver home heating oil,
and most home owners don?t have a suitable
driveway. We have had a very mild winter, and fuel
and propane use has been down quite a bit over
last year here in Ontario. In your comparison
wheat/fuel, value/cost , last month milk from our
farm sold for $1.00/litre. So I can trade one litre of
milk for one litre of gas. Our milk components are
higher then average 5.3 %BF 4.00% protein.
Average milk price in Ontario last month closer to
.84cents
ow much of that is TAXES?
 

Taxes?
For Ontario try $1.25/gallon (gasoline)
Diesel $1.00/gallon
Those are Canadian dollars (x 0.75 for U.S. Dollar)
Also, Ontario has 13% sales tax on every dollar spent.
 
(quoted from post at 09:21:43 02/25/20) Nice to see a Co-op truck with all the recent issues!
You are right on that Chris. Co-op will get the fuel to us if they can. I better not say much more on this or it might get political and get the thread deleted. I seem to do that lately.
 
I remember in the 1960's dad would take 45 gallon barrels on his 1/2 ton for fuel. it was 11.00 for a 45 gal. barrel of gas.
 
(quoted from post at 04:16:05 02/25/20) . All of our file delivery trucks are straight
trucks. Many yards couldn?t handle a tractor trailer,
and the same trucks also deliver home heating oil,
and most home owners don?t have a suitable
driveway.
Fuel trucks like everything else in rural Sask. have gotten bigger and further apart. That truck has a 30 mile run West to fill up at the main fuel dump and then he heads out to serve his customers. That was the reason for the bigger truck as it did not make sense to run that distance on a little single axle truck considering the volume of fuel they drop off at some farms. All our yards have to be big and open enough to handle long trucks and trailers. I've had double trailer grain haulers in the yard and out the driveway. Its tight but better than some.
Here is a picture of what they were trucking fuel with in 1967. Farm fuel about 25 cents a gallon then I think.
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Yes any health care here is free or more acturaly it is all paid for already. Last thing you have to worry about going to the hospital is what it will all cost or if the insurance will pay for it. I sure got a wake up call taking my dog to the vet though --- poor guy-- I had to tell him that he dosent pay taxes so he dosent get a free ride.
 
And that 49 pickup cost well under $2000. Would be equivalent to $20,000 today if you could get one with no extras.price has inflated about the same as fuel.
 
(quoted from post at 19:50:19 02/25/20) And that 49 pickup cost well under $2000. Would be equivalent to $20,000 today if you could get one with no extras.price has inflated about the same as fuel.
Unfortunately our wheat has not inflated as much. Even top grades will have a hard time hitting $6 a bushel this year. Most graded feed this past crop and its in the $4 to $5 range if its dry. Not much is. Pretty sure they were getting at least $1 a bushel in 1949.
 
Fuel and everything else has more that quadrupled
or even more yet crop prices haven?t even thought
of keeping up with the inflation . A plow share used
to be 6.00$ and now they are 30$ But I?m not telling
anyone that farms anything that they don?t know a
100 horsepower tractor 6000.00$ now 65000 or
70,000 and that?s not even a real tractor like the
one in the 60s it?s now an overgrown lawnmower
made of tinfoil and cheap plastic. In 1960 barley
was 2.08 and today its 5.63$ see anything wrong
with that picture ?
 
Nice to know were all on the same page. My dad told me when I started my farm from the ground up... If you enjoy what you do you'll never work a day in your life! So zero is still a pretty good number up here lol
 
We got $6.25 to $6.50 for wheat so far...$7.00 for peas and $20.00 for yellow mustard. We have been very fortunate this year considering the year.
 
One important thing to remember fuel tax is a voluntary tax. The more you use/waste the more tax you pay. Unlike buying health insurance, but somewhat the same. The more you use your health insurance, the higher the risk you become to insurance companies, the higher your premiums. Only people that ever say that health care in Canada is free, are Americans. There is no doubt in the minds of Canadians that tax dollars pay for healthcare in Canada. And I don?t mind if the folks that want to use excessive amounts of fuel, smoke and drink booze have to pay extra tax to help pay the cost of national healthcare. We save on pensions that we don?t have to pay out to folks that shorten their lives smoking and drinking themselves to a early grave. I keep close account of fuel and heating cost on our farm. Last year we ran our dairy farm, put fuel in two trucks and one Jeep, as well as heated two homes for $14,000.00. I am very happy with the status quo here. Bruce from Canada
 
(quoted from post at 07:46:12 02/26/20) Nice to know were all on the same page. My dad told me when I started my farm from the ground up... If you enjoy what you do you'll never work a day in your life! So zero is still a pretty good number up here lol
I used to say that too. But its getting to the point that we really are working for free. Just make enough to do it all over again next year.
When I was a kid going to the Cockshutt dealership in town with my dad they used to say new tractors were right around the hundred dollar per horsepower mark. So I'd say that ratio has moved up a little now.
 
I find that every thing I buy is about 10 times the
price it was when I was a teenager, except farm
gate prices. Farm gate prices are either the same or
lower than they were in the mid seventies. The few
prices that have gone up, the gains are lost to the
reduces buying power of a dollar. In the early
seventies, a imperial ton of corn was $200.00 and
the average yield was two ton per acre. Today our
Co-op cash price for corn is $200.00 per metric
ton/or 2200 lb. .We grow more per acre now, at
least a 4metric ton per acre average, but still get the
same price per ton. A new tractor cost right at
$1,000.00 per hp. In 1976 my IH 966 cost
$24.000.00, so the gentleman that I purchased it
from told me. And he bought it with milk at $9.00
per hundred lb. So today that tractor is only 4 times
the cost. You could hire a good man at the same
time, 1976, for 5 bucks per hour. Now you can
barely even hire a numbskull for 15 bucks. Farm
prices just haven?t kept up .
 
Canadian healthcare is becoming less free every year/day.
Nickle and diming more and more.
Can't even get a cast cut off without a fee of $75.
And only allowed four visits to your doctor per year.
And you have to sign a contract to only use the same family doctor for life.
 
(quoted from post at 12:19:32 02/25/20)
Here is a picture of what they were trucking fuel with in 1967. Farm fuel about 25 cents a gallon then I think.
mvphoto49833.jpg

Looks like they're towing a "Bennet Buggy" behind the truck. I'm guessing that was a parade celebrating Canada's 100th birthday in 1967? I would've been 2. I remember Dad thinking the world was ending when gas hit 49 cents a gallon around 1970....
 
(quoted from post at 09:13:39 02/26/20)

Looks like they're towing a "Bennet Buggy" behind the truck. I'm guessing that was a parade celebrating Canada's 100th birthday in 1967? .
You are right on the date. 1967 Centennial for Canada was a big deal here. I was there but not old enough to own a camera yet.
Not a Bennet Buggy but just an old International truck that was being towed. I'm guessing it just wouldn't start. Bennet buggies were from the 1930s. Just a car with the engine and transmission removed and pulled by a team of horses. Nobody could afford gas or tires in the 1930s so they went back to horse powered transportation but still had the relative comfort of the car. I think the first gas I bought about 1970 was in the 50 cent a gallon range.
 
I?ll pay for my own health care and not have to worry about paying 5.00 a gallon for farm diesel . The local bto Just bought a tanker load of farm fuel for 1.88$ a gallon so 18,000 versus 45,000 can buy a pretty decent health care plan for $25,000 dollars a year . So with your numbers I could have bought the same amount of fuel paying 2.20 a gallon 6,800$ and some change . That?s a good deal for you again how ?
 
(quoted from post at 13:21:11 02/26/20) Canadian healthcare is becoming less free every year/day.
Nickle and diming more and more.
[b:8b7feeba95]Can't even get a cast cut off without a fee of $75.
And only allowed four visits to your doctor per year.
And you have to sign a contract to only use the same family doctor for life.[/b:8b7feeba95]

Show me some proof of that. I've never encountered any of that.

And no, Canadian healthcare isn't "free". We pay for it everyday via taxes. Anyone who thinks it is "free" is a moron.

Of course nothing could ever possibly be as good as anything American.
 
(quoted from post at 06:31:40 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 13:21:11 02/26/20)
Show me some proof of that. I've never encountered any of that.

And no, Canadian healthcare isn't "free". We pay for it everyday via taxes. Anyone who thinks it is "free" is a moron.
I see this thread is degenerating into a "health care" discussion. Not sure how that happened but I guess the thing to remember is that each of us is convinced that our system is ok and that is the main thing.
Yes, fuel is expensive here but somehow we seem to keep buying it. Health care premiums in the U.S. sound like a crippling drain on your finances but as far as I can tell you all seem to be getting by ok. I tend to avoid such discussions.
 
(quoted from post at 12:11:22 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 06:31:40 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 13:21:11 02/26/20)
Show me some proof of that. I've never encountered any of that.

And no, Canadian healthcare isn't "free". We pay for it everyday via taxes. Anyone who thinks it is "free" is a moron.
I see this thread is degenerating into a "health care" discussion. Not sure how that happened but I guess the thing to remember is that each of us is convinced that our system is ok and that is the main thing.
Yes, fuel is expensive here but somehow we seem to keep buying it. Health care premiums in the U.S. sound like a crippling drain on your finances but as far as I can tell you all seem to be getting by ok. I tend to avoid such discussions.

I tend to avoid them too but some statements absolutely need to be questioned. Too many things on the internet are completely false therefore people need to provide proof of their claims when questioned.

I didn't derail this into healthcare, I was just looking to get his statement substantiated. I doubt that happens though.
 
(quoted from post at 10:31:40 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 13:21:11 02/26/20) Canadian healthcare is becoming less free every year/day.
Nickle and diming more and more.
[b:3486df21a0]Can't even get a cast cut off without a fee of $75.
And only allowed four visits to your doctor per year.
And you have to sign a contract to only use the same family doctor for life.[/b:3486df21a0]

Show me some proof of that. I've never encountered any of that.

And no, Canadian healthcare isn't "free". We pay for it everyday via taxes. Anyone who thinks it is "free" is a moron.

Of course nothing could ever possibly be as good as anything American.

Direct in person account from my Canadian snobird inlaws.
Both on old age pension as they call it.
How much healthcare have you encounter in the past two years?
In Ontario?
 
(quoted from post at 23:08:54 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 10:31:40 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 13:21:11 02/26/20) Canadian healthcare is becoming less free every year/day.
Nickle and diming more and more.
[b:841c3cee22]Can't even get a cast cut off without a fee of $75.
And only allowed four visits to your doctor per year.
And you have to sign a contract to only use the same family doctor for life.[/b:841c3cee22]

Show me some proof of that. I've never encountered any of that.

And no, Canadian healthcare isn't "free". We pay for it everyday via taxes. Anyone who thinks it is "free" is a moron.

Of course nothing could ever possibly be as good as anything American.

Direct in person account from my Canadian snobird inlaws.
Both on old age pension as they call it.
How much healthcare have you encounter in the past two years?
In Ontario?

I see the Doc 4 times a year concerning diabetes plus 2 or 3 times concerning high blood pressure.

My wife goes to the same doctor probably twice that many times for various things. She had a cast removed 2 weeks ago, no charge.

Neither of us had to sign any contracts and have never heard of anyone else having to.

We're both drawing Canada Pension plus she's drawing the old age pension. I've got another year to go before I can draw it.

We're in New Brunswick.
 
(quoted from post at 19:04:23 02/27/20)
(quoted from post at 23:08:54 02/27/20)
I see the Doc 4 times a year concerning diabetes plus 2 or 3 times concerning high blood pressure.

My wife goes to the same doctor probably twice that many times for various things. She had a cast removed 2 weeks ago, no charge.

Neither of us had to sign any contracts and have never heard of anyone else having to.

We're both drawing Canada Pension plus she's drawing the old age pension. I've got another year to go before I can draw it.

We're in New Brunswick.
All true and I can't argue with that. Its been a few years since I was into emergency. The only plastic card I needed was my health services card. My SIL had cancer surgery and a few weeks of chemo last year. No charge that I know of. My dad had back surgery and a hip replacement back about 20 years ago. Same thing. Prescription drugs cost something of course. I will say that it is getting hard to find rural doctors and we are more often having to travel long distances to the city to a doctor.
 
You guys do realize that each province decides what they can afford to provide to the citizens, right?
Ottawa only provides some guidelines of minimum services.
 
(quoted from post at 21:56:27 02/28/20) You guys do realize that each province decides what they can afford to provide to the citizens, right?
Ottawa only provides some guidelines of minimum services.

Yes, I know that. Your original statement was all encompassing and misleading as in what you posted is fact Canada wide when evidently it is not.
 

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