Vehicle titles and ownership

Leroy

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This may be only an Ohio thing. around 15+ years ago I traded trucks at a delership on a truck as being advertised as a one owner low milage truck. When I got it homa and had into garage as I knew it needed brakes but that would have been expected with the miles. And truck looked like milage would have been correct. When garage got into the brakes all drums were evidently turned way beyond leagal. With that I got to checking and at that time you could go to the local DMV and get information on last 3 owners and if you wanted to trace it farther back you could go to the state DMV and do it. I found out that the truck had went thru 2 dealers and a leasing company so the dealer I bought it from was lying about it being a one owner low milage truck. By that time I no longer had the weekly advertising paper the truck was listed in and none avabile so I was stuck with it. Truck was advertised as having 69,000 orignal miles, when I was able to get the title information found out speedometor had been turned over at least twice. This was a speodometer that only read to 99,999 mile. Forward to about 2013 I bought a van from a independant dealer no problems there and they told me they got it from the new car dealership as it was older than they wanted to keep on there lot. Did not bother me on that but I just wanted to find out wher the dealer got it from, went to the same DMV that got me the information on that truck. Now no longer to let any body know back owners of the vehical. Could not get where the new car dealer got it. So that could make getting a replacement title impossible. Only a good change in the law for people wanting to hide where a vehical came from so you could never find out if it had went thru a flood or anything like that.
 
They may no longer let just anybody have personal information, but that does not mean they don't have it and won't use it to issue a replacement title.

You can see where just anybody being able to get an inordinate amount of personal information with nothing but a vehicle's VIN is a problem, right?
 
Feds or states passed some kind of privacy act so ordinary citizen could not out info on other citizen. I have went tag office to find who owner of vechile but cant do anymore.
 
Carfax will give you all of the information you need about the number of
previous owners and the reported mileage when ownership changed. My last
used vehicle went through two auctions and two dealers.
 
Car fax isn?t consistently correct. An example is A new car was bought by the mother in law, inherited by the daughter in law. So the history is known. 2 owners. But car fax reports 5 owners. Also car fax repair reports IMHO are also inaccurate. There are a ton of small mom & pop repair facilities that do not report to car fax. So the vehicle could be a total wreck without car fax ever knowing.
 
The only thing getting that information on the truck told me the dealer was a crook and he with the new rules he can hide that fact.
 
Hit the wrong button or would have had this in post. If I would still have had the advertising paper with his add in it I could have taken him to court and he would have had to return my trade plus what I paid difference plus my costs of finding out it was not as advertised. That is the only reason to prohibit some one from finding out who the owners were and were located. It is also designed to protect seller if he says vehical is good and a week after you bought it found out it was cleaned up and dried out from a flood when electrical quit working.
 
Carfax only has information voluntarily supplied to it by dealers. It's not all it's cracked up to be.
 
I had the Jeep in the dealership for some work,they ran the numbers and told me the owner history. I thought maybe three owners,it was 6.
 
Was so long ago and never thought of that but I did not know where it was printed.
 
The whole privacy thing is like many other things. The pendulum swings from one extreme to the other. First they are too lax, now they are overdoing it.

I simply cannot see what difference it makes to reveal the previous (or current for that matter) ownership of a vehicle. That information should be public knowledge. How can it harm anybody to know if they owned a particular vehicle? I just don't see it.
 
In SD the mileage is on the title when it is exchanged. Also, you have to list if there was any damage to it over a certain dollar amount.
 
I am sure you're right about CarFax only getting dealer and larger organization information.
Private sales and mom-and-pop repairs would not be listed. The five owners is a puzzle...I'd be suspicious of that, too.
However it is - I believe any repair involving an insurance company would show up on CarFax, and quickly.
I have experience with that one.
 
Milage was listed on each ownership and that is how I figured out it had been turned over multiple times. When oldest had more milage than the next said it had been turned over and the next one was listed at still less milage. The title should have beel marked as being turned over for both I was able to get information and that included the title I got with the truck. Milage does not get less with different owners.
 
When the last 2 titles were made out they were commiting fraud by not checking the box that sais exceded spedometer reading. A lot harder to commit that fruad with the newer vehicals that the spedometer reads to a million instead of a hundred thousand.
 
If it went through a flood it would have a salvage title. In New Jersey there is a way to convert a salvage title back to a regular title but you have tot take the car to special inspection.
 
(quoted from post at 02:06:24 02/14/20)

I simply cannot see what difference it makes to reveal the previous (or current for that matter) ownership of a vehicle. That information should be public knowledge. How can it harm anybody to know if they owned a particular vehicle? I just don't see it.

It's a matter of privacy, would you want any number of fools calling you about the vehicles you used to own? I sure wouldn't.
 

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