My trailer again

37 chief

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I gave up on my 7000 lb axle. I don't want to buy a set of four 16 inch tires. I want to keep the rims I have now. So that brings me back to a 6000 lb axle that will fit my rims, and keep my trailer low. If I buy 2 6000 lb axles I am good for 12,000 lbs. My JD weighs 4,475. my mower probably weighs 1,500 that gives my a total weight right at 6,000 lbs. See any problem here? I always try to over kill every thing I do. That is what was happing to my axle change. Stan
 
Factory or homemade trailer? Does it have a tag with a rating?

What are the current axles?

What are the springs, if you have springs?

If all your suspension parts are 6000 lb. rated then yes it would class as a 12,000 lb. trailer.

If you have 5K springs that would drop it to 10K even with 6K axles. Just my thoughts, I'm sure there will be others
 
The only difference between the 6 and 7k axle is the tube is 3/16 wall on 6k and 1/4 on 7k. 7k also has a stronger magnet for better braking. With the load your talking you will be fine either way. Tires rated heavy enough might be tough to find in that size tho.
 
If my memory is correct 5 lug hubs are 3500#, 6 lug are 5000# and 6 lug are 8000# hubs. Does that sound correct.? Just as I remember it.
 
That is sort of correct. 3500lb usually have 5 bolt but can be ordered with 6 bolt hubs. I have never seen 6 bolt tho. 6k is usually 6 bolt but can be either 6 or 7 and I've seen a few with 7 bolt hubs. 7 k can only be 7 bolt. He claims he can get 5 bolt in the 6k axle and if so that's a new one on me.
 

I believe you forgot to include the weight of the trailer, that would put you over the axle rating. Typically there is some margin for weight in excess of the rating. For short distance, lower speeds you will likely be fine. However, there may be legal/license/insurance issues.
 
My big trailer only weighs 6500
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My trailer started life as a Big Tex. 18 ft car hauing trailer. I added a lot of strength to it, I installed heavy duty 1 1/2 solid axles 20 or so years ago. It had great brakes until they wore out. The brakes are no longer available. The company stopped making parts . Stan
 
No, you have to count the trailer weight, my 16? tandem weights 2000# empty, and has 5 bolt 3500# axels, the total gvw is 7000# minus the 2000# trailer weight, so I can put 5000# on the trailer.
 
Dexter axles 3500 and 4400 are 5 lug 5200 are 6 lug and 6,000 , 7,000 , and 8,000 are 8 lug. I have never seer nor heard of a 7 lug axle
 
My trailer weighs 3,200, tractor 4,475 mower 1,800. Giving me a total of 9,475, close to axle weight. I think I will just go with the 6,000 lb axles, and be done with it. I have over a month to make up my mind, be for I start mowing, and need the trailer. Stan
 
Should work, 12000# axels minus 3200# trailer weights leaves you with 8800# carrying capacity, your going the be carrying 6275# tractor and mower.
 
You know the brake mounting is probably standard. Usually they mount to a vertical steel plate with four holes. Go to a brake supply house and see if there are new whole assembles.
 
(quoted from post at 20:42:37 02/13/20) My trailer weighs 3,200, tractor 4,475 mower 1,800. Giving me a total of 9,475, close to axle weight. I think I will just go with the 6,000 lb axles, and be done with it. I have over a month to make up my mind, be for I start mowing, and need the trailer. Stan

What's close? You've got 2500lbs of capacity left, and that's not even counting tongue weight.

A minimum of 947.5lbs should be on the tongue, meaning that only 8527.5lbs of weight will be on the axles, which are rated for a combined 12,000lbs.
 
(quoted from post at 18:16:19 02/13/20)
I believe you forgot to include the weight of the trailer, that would put you over the axle rating. Typically there is some margin for weight in excess of the rating. For short distance, lower speeds you will likely be fine. However, there may be legal/license/insurance issues.

This is to correct my post, above. I did not account for 2 x 6000 lb axles. The additional axle should put you within the rated capacity.

Ken
 
You will be in good shape with that set up. I have an 18 footer with two 6000 lb. axles that I use with the Kubota M6040, front loader, weights and 7' mower. Pulls like a dream.
Use at least E rated tires.
 
How is the used trailer market in your area? It seems that any halfway usable trailer sells for half or more of the price of a brand new trailer. It is often cheaper to buy a new trailer and sell the old one privately than to fix up an old trailer, especially if you're trying to upgrade the capacity or features of an existing trailer.
 
(quoted from post at 09:36:01 02/14/20) How is the used trailer market in your area? It seems that any halfway usable trailer sells for half or more of the price of a brand new trailer. It is often cheaper to buy a new trailer and sell the old one privately than to fix up an old trailer, especially if you're trying to upgrade the capacity or features of an existing trailer.

Just buy a new one and be done with it. For what you charge per hour it will be paid for in no time. I depreciate out my trailers in 5 years and usually sell them for close to what I paid for them....always a fresh trailer and no deck, brake, axle or tire problems.
 
(quoted from post at 03:10:25 02/14/20) Dexter axles 3500 and 4400 are 5 lug 5200 are 6 lug and 6,000 , 7,000 , and 8,000 are 8 lug. I have never seer nor heard of a 7 lug axle

What he said
 
I think you are misstaken. The light F-250s' had 8 lug wheels but they didn't have full floater axles but they still had 8 lugs
 
What's close? You've got 2500lbs of capacity left, and that's not even counting tongue weight.

A minimum of 947.5lbs should be on the tongue, meaning that only 8527.5lbs of weight will be on the axles, which are rated for a combined 12,000lbs.
 
37 chief
Its been asked at least a couple times and you haven't answered what the springs are. If the springs are 5K are you changing the springs to 6K along with the axles? 5K springs with 6K axle is still a 10K suspension.
 

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