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How far back from this should you keep?


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Stay ahead, or turn off and wait an hour. Call the State DOT while stopped and waiting, or ask a passenger to call them. No redeaming social value in that rig. Jim
 
It looks strange for sure but I am not sure it is unsafe. If the trailer is licensed, properly hooked with safety chains I would bet it is legal. If the truck bed trailer dolly deal had been fabed to hook level it would look better.

I seen new camper trailers hooked in triples getting on the turn pike pulled with pickups once in a while. The dolly deal looks like it has been converted from something. I see many doubles headed for the turn pike.
 
I was on my way up to our property this fall and came across a 1 ton Ford that was pulling about a 30' 5th wheel camper and a little trailer with a 4 wheeler on it hooked behind that.
There was a bit of ice on an overpass and they lost the whole thing. Jack knifed it hard enough to wrap the little trailer all the way around the front of the truck.
4 wheeler was mangled and upside down across the highway in the ditch.
No one was hurt but they had pretty much totalled EVERYTHING.
Sad day day for someone.
 
It looks like the suspension on the dolly trailer is pretty light for the load that it is carrying. We see lots of trucks around here with dolly's and pups.-------Loren
 
I bet you got that right Rich, and somewhere down that wet road he's gonna get a mirror full if he has to hit the brakes right quick, maybe both mirrors. gm
 
That thing is headed to a steam show. We don?t see the trailer and golf cart behind the camper.
 

It looks redneck but are you sure it is illegal? If the trailers are properly attached, including chains if required, and the lights work why is it illegal? Oh - forgot it needs to be legal length but it doesn't even look close to too long.
 
When I worked in road construction, our biggest fears were motor homes, vehicles pulling campers and anything with the name U-Haul written on it.
 
Here's a manufactured model of this type dolly. The one in the link allows you to pull not only a 5th wheel, but also a larger bumper-pull trailer than what your vehicle could otherwise handle.

Personally, I don't know about these things. It does seem like backing would be a problem. However, there's a video on the page that covers backing. ...I'll have to watch them later.
 
Here's a manufactured model of this type dolly. The one in the link allows you to pull not only a 5th wheel, but also a larger bumper-pull trailer than what your vehicle could otherwise handle.

Personally, I don't know about these things. It does seem like backing would be a problem. However, there's a video on the page that covers backing. ...I'll have to watch them later.

http://www.automatedsafetyhitch.com...erpull-trailer-with-triple-play-safety-hitch/
 
The dolly in that link looks like it would produce negative tongue weight, not good. The hitch point should at least be at the axle.
 
That looks pretty good. What he has done is to convert a 2 wheeled RV into a 4 wheeled RV. It certainly solves the parking problem as long as that towing trailer has a jackstand on the tongue. Are you sure that wasn't Geo-TH,In with one of his famous death machines? (;>))
 
The thing about this is that I probably wouldn't do it myself. On the other hand if I did, I would have used a drop hitch on the pulling vehicle and make sure the hitch on the dolly trailer was just a bit forward of the axle for some tongue weight on the tow vehicle. Backing would be tough, but with practice it can be done.
 


When is the the next overall review of the YTDOT rules? Someone needs to make sure that this one: No redeaming social value in that rig, gets added.
 
(quoted from post at 11:06:12 01/28/20)
It looks redneck but are you sure it is illegal? If the trailers are properly attached, including chains if required, and the lights work why is it illegal? Oh - forgot it needs to be legal length but it doesn't even look close to too long.
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Depends on which state he's in. It's legal in some states, illegal in others. It's two trailers. For the front trailer to be not a trailer, it would have to be rigidly mounted to the tow vehicle.
 
I first saw such a device in Farmshow some years back. Can't remember now if it was the featured item or something else I'm thinking of, but seems like the one in Farmshow actually secured itself to the rear of your vehicle. Meaning, it would not require a license plate, as it would be considered a part of the towing vehicle. ...Will probably remember everything in a couple of days, when you folks are no longer interested. *lol*

If I'm remembering correctly, the device in the article attached to rear of vehicle, essentially giving the vehicle another axle. I believe it could pivot up and down, but did not pivot on a ball like a trailer would.
 
Guy up the road hauled his big cat dozer with a joe dog pulled by his 8440. No plates,no lights, no oversized permits.
The some reason we haul grain in big wagons.
 
I guess the idea is okay, it doesn't look like the execution of the idea is great. I don't see any lights on the dolly, but there might be. I'd prefer more tongue weight on the tow vehicle- if that dolly starts to weave around at speed, it could get really interesting really fast. Kinda gives up the advantages of a fifth wheel trailer.

We had a customer at my old job who pulled a Case 450 dozer on a home made trailer behind a Toyota compact pickup. The trailer had multiple C channel beams and twelve mobile home tires in pairs, probably weighted 4000 pounds all by itself, gooseneck tilt. No way the truck had enough weight to brake it, but he swore it was safe!!
 
I was under the understanding the first trailer in a set of doubles like camper and fishing boat trailer the camper would have to be on a fifthwheel. If that is so then how can the link deal even be legal to use? I know a guy I worked for cutting wheat one year had a combine trailer he hooked a grain cart to with the tractor setting on the combine trailer pulled them both at once. When we got to SD they told him he had to have the first trailer on a fifthwheel or not pull them together. On the trip to SD he had put the cart behind the trailer with the combine on it. And used the farmers tractor on the cart.
 
(quoted from post at 13:39:58 01/28/20) Sad part is because it is a RV no one will say anything.
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I woulda pulled that over in a heart beat. Chances are no brakes, chains, no breakaway and the operator probably doesn't have an endorsement for Doubles. Entirely illegal in my state.
 
I wish YA:ll would stop complaning about the way i travel Betty May is sleeping in the camper i just stopped for gas and donuts.
 
RV doubles towing laws vary from state to state, from being totally illegal to "anything goes."

The states that allow it tend to be interior states, while the ones that don't tend to be coastal states, or adjacent to coastal states.

Texas is one state where last I knew you could tow any combination you wanted. In New York, RV doubles are illegal.
 
I wonder how much the dolly's tongue weight at the rear bumper of the car varies in that setup. Hopefully the tow vehicle is all wheel drive. Would the dolly brakes be controlled with the trailer brakes, or would use surge brakes or simply no brakes at all?
 
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