Modern implement brands

Charlie M · Jan 25, 2020

Seem like most of the time when I see big brand name tractors I don't see the big brand name implements behind them. Is that because the big brand names are more expensive or don't they do much with implements
any more. I see planters with the big names but rarely see tillage equipment with the big brand names. Maybe this stuff is too modern for me to understand. LOL

NY 986 · Jan 25, 2020

A trend that has been ongoing since the 1970's. Simply put the top brands are so bloated with management plus have to satisfy fickle stock holders that they can not mark up things such as silo blowers, rakes, and rolling baskets to the point of making a satisfactory profit and get sales volume. Fast forward to 2020 companies such as Landoll and Krause has firmly grasped the portion of the market relative to tillage. The talk is that companies such as JD and CNH will devote resources including factory space to products such as tractors, combines, and planting where their proprietary interests can be protected and exploited by them. The tillage companies will provide products to CNH and JD to sell under their own colors plus reserve the right to sell through other outlets.

Bob Bancroft · Jan 25, 2020

I had an Athens 14' disc for many years. Never did a thing to it other than grease it. When my wife [and the 4020] retired, I bought a used 26' JD. It looked like new, and worked good. But the bearings started going. The gang bearings were just a standard ball bearing in the supposedly greaseable flangettes. I traded it for a new 26' Athens. Like the other Athens, the gangs were indestructible. But, Athens was apparently out of their element building something that big, because the leveling mechanism wasn't anywhere near heavy enough. Bent some of it right around into a U shape! I used it three or four seasons and traded it for a new Landoll last spring. I'm sure I've bought my last disc harrow [they want to call it vertical tillage] !

NY 986 · Jan 25, 2020

I'd like to upgrade the big disk someday but I'll have to settle for something like a CIH (or IH) 496 due to budget. I think that unless a smoking deal comes along on a disk the combine will most likely be the next item to be updated.

Bob Bancroft · Jan 25, 2020

What is your combine, and how old is it?

NY 986 · Jan 25, 2020

'83 6620 combine that I have had for over 20 years. I'd like to go rotary but my budget is telling to get something I can use my current heads with. So another 20 series or maybe a JD 9400.

Bob · Jan 25, 2020

(quoted from post at 18:41:05 01/25/20) Seem like most of the time when I see big brand name tractors I don't see the big brand name implements behind them. Is that because the big brand names are more expensive or don't they do much with implements
any more. I see planters with the big names but rarely see tillage equipment with the big brand names. Maybe this stuff is too modern for me to understand. LOL

"when I see big brand name tractors I don't see the big brand name implements behind them"?

Well, I guess everyone has to be curious about SOMETHING!

Bob Bancroft · Jan 25, 2020

I suspect my CIH 1660 rotary from the early 90's is my last. I still miss my conventional Gleaners!

paul · Jan 26, 2020

Oliver/ White made the best plows, followed by the 720 IHC.

IHC makes good disks. JD makes ridges.

IHC took over Tigermate and have good field cultivators, as does JD.

Chisel plows IHC are too light, Glencoe and other short lines are better.

Summers has some good tillage equipment.

So, anyhow, whatever tractor I have, I?ll use the better other equipment, not just follow the same color implements.

Paul

caterpillar guy · Jan 26, 2020

NY986 IF you can swing it the heavier disc like a sunflower or a Landoll would pay in the end. Those discs with the 3 bearings on one shaft will not last in rocky/stoney ground. We have an IH470. and my brother bought that Sunflower we use with only 2 bearings per shaft those work great without breaking the shafts. The disc is heavy so will cut in even during the summer when it is hard. I think the sunflower website says it weighs like 30,000. Will work grassy looking ground to a seedbed in 2 passes.
The 470 would break shafts hitting stones over time and then the work of welding it back together again. Finally made 2 shafts per gang with only 2 bearings per shaft and now have not needed to work on it in several years. The frame may just be the final downfall now.

As for different implements than the tractors.We have other brands of equipment from Deere, White,IH,Great Plains,NI. Just depends on the price and what it will do and last.

jimmyjoe · Jan 26, 2020

Like this

moresmoke · Jan 26, 2020

Some of the ?off? names you see are actually owned by one of the main lines. Sunflower is owned by Agco, Wishek is partly owned by the same. If they said Massey or Challenger on them you would never see one behind a green tractor.

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