Ultradog MN

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I'm thinking I need a pickup soon.
Got to own a few new ones in my life but this time will look for late model used.
Prefer another Chevy or GMC but would consider a Dodge or Ford.
Need a Standard Cab, long bed, 3/4 ton. HAS to be 4wd around here.
Chevy has the WT = Work Truck. Plain Jane, no bells and whistles, rubber floor mats, etc. It's what I have now - suits me fine.
Dodge has their Tradesman? Is that their equivalent to the WT?
What name does Ford use for theirs?
Don't know what boxes to check on the online searches.
Thanks
 
(quoted from post at 13:15:27 01/19/20) I'm thinking I need a pickup soon.
Got to own a few new ones in my life but this time will look for late model used.
Prefer another Chevy or GMC but would consider a Dodge or Ford.
Need a Standard Cab, long bed, 3/4 ton. HAS to be 4wd around here.
Chevy has the WT = Work Truck. Plain Jane, no bells and whistles, rubber floor mats, etc. It's what I have now - suits me fine.
Dodge has their Tradesman? Is that their equivalent to the WT?
What name does Ford use for theirs?
Don't know what boxes to check on the online searches.
Thanks
I think a Ram would also be a WT, but I've never actually seen one.
 
It has been said that there is "no replacement for displacement".
Bigger is better.
However, you still need "gears for go".
Engines today are getting downsized and transmissions are getting bigger.
IF I was wisely looking for a new truck instead of fixing my old one, I would be looking at the trucks with the 10 speed trans.
The engines are smaller as a rule, but the power band is much wider than the old bigger engines.
There was a recent comparison of the big 3 <> 1/2 ton trucks and Ram came out on top. However, the W/T truck is worth a look to own forever. Resale might be minimal because people like pretty. W/T is not in that category.
The truck I am looking for sells new at about $87K
I bought a lottery ticket instead.
 
Ultradog how far are you willing to travel? There is a 2012 2500HD coming up on auction. It is extremely clean and just a little over 10,000 miles. Yes 10,000 miles. It is exactly as you described. I have a 2006 just like it. Mine has 48,000 miles on it. It had 13,700 on it when I got it 2 years ago. The auction is in NE Indiana.
 
If you are a GM guy now stick with that or even a Ford. I just sold a 2008 Dodge diesel with 100000 miles on it ,kept it about 2 1/2 years. The only thing good about it was the engine the rest of the truck was a cheap tin can that was terrible to drive just like the turds of the 70's and 80's. I thought the brand new ones were going to be better until I test drove one. If you are looking at gassers keep in mind resale on a gas dodge is terrible and I know because I have relatives in the wholesale auto business.
 
Looking at a WT in New Mexico now so NE IN would be closer. Should have said I want a gasser. Have diesel tractors but wouldn't want to have to live with a stinky diesel day in, day out.
Sent you an email.
 
It is gas. The auction is this Thursday the 23rd. My email should be open if you are interested. It is NOT my truck. If your email is open I could email you my phone number.
 
(quoted from post at 10:15:27 01/19/20) I'm thinking I need a pickup soon.
Got to own a few new ones in my life but this time will look for late model used.
Prefer another Chevy or GMC but would consider a Dodge or Ford.
Need a Standard Cab, long bed, 3/4 ton. HAS to be 4wd around here.
Chevy has the WT = Work Truck. Plain Jane, no bells and whistles, rubber floor mats, etc. It's what I have now - suits me fine.
Dodge has their Tradesman? Is that their equivalent to the WT?
What name does Ford use for theirs?
Don't know what boxes to check on the online searches.
Thanks

I am looking for something similar, but I want an extended cab with the 8 foot box. They DO exist. I have seen pictures.
 
I bought a f250 xl work truck in 16. Comes with more options than I thought. 6.2 motor gas. Plenty of power. 6 speed auto. 1st gear is slow. Air, power windows locks, cruise, power mirrors, I love it I did get a crew cab, 6.5 bed. Wished I had gotten one 40 yrs ago. Only thing anytime my buddies and I go anywhere take my truck. But Three of them have 4 door Fords now.
 
a few years ago i bought a 2008 ford super duty--extended cad.8 ft bed,tow package,4wd,5,4 liter,64 k on it. it is way underpowered and transmission is always down shifting--don't know the axle ratio buy if it was higher that would help
no comparison to my 2000 gmc with the 6.0 liter
 
I think you are making a wise choice on gasser, no more than you drive and northern climate.

I would want 6.2L
 
I just replaced my '99 F250 with a '15. The old one was a plain jane with just air/automatic. The new one is XL with 6.2 gas, off road and towing packages. Way more truck than I was looking for but only 38,000 miles and like new with extras the PO put on. Still getting used to it, seems a lot bigger (I know it isn't) with less visibility.
 
My 2014 Expedition has every bell and whistle you can screw onto it. Has the information center so you have even more bells and whistles to play with. One thing I never had was the Proximity sensor option. It is actually Very, very handy . This is especially true with these big vehicles. Makes for nice neat parking a snap. Even with a big honker 5.4 and the extra long body I average in the high 17s if you do more hyway.
 
As others stated : base model is XL. Keep in mind, though, options can be added to the truck. To the extent of having many of the XLT options without having the XLT badging.
 
Everyone can offer advice about a vehicle. You have to go with your experiences and needs.
I've had 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton. Short box and 8' box. Regular cab, extended cab and crew cab. Gasers and diesels. Each filled a need (and some wants). My hauling needs have diminished but I still want flexability for load configurations.
I have 3 trailers: an older 6x8 tilt bed snomobile trailer that I use as a utility; a 16' plus 2'beavertail tandem axle 10,000gvw with a tool box and 12,000# remote electric winch; a 24' enclosed tandem axle 10,000gvw with a 3500# remote winch inside. I also have a 6 and 1/2 foot slide in camper that weighs 1300#.
My current truck is a 2018 Silverado, double cab (4 dr but not crew cab), 5.3 liter variable displacement, automatic with a 6 and 1/2 foot box. I have equiped it with E rated Michelins, added airbags to rear suspension, Rhino lined box, 3 section hard tunneau cover and running boards. My hitch head is load transfer capable 2 5/16 ball. I use the transfer bars on both big trailers.
For daily driving my tires are at 45# and my airbags at 10#. For hauling I go up to 55 or 60# on the tires and about 30+# in the airbags. I have to put mirror extensions on as my truck does not have extendable mirrors. (dang)
I have hauled 2 Ns on my flatbed. Only a couple of times to auction about 80 miles away.
For tractor show flea markets I use the camper and the enclosed trailer. In the trailer are a hay wagon with my "stuff" to sell, a 2000 watt Honda, and my Club Car gas golf cart. I go about 200 miles max for a 3 or 4 day week-end.
I have used this setup for 2 summers and it rides and handles great. I can maintain 65mph no problem.
My son and daughter-in-law are looking at a 37 foot travel trailer with 3 slide outs and if they buy it have asked me to haul it home for them. I'm ready. Just drive accordingly. (they will buy a tow vehicle later)
That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
I had chevys the bodies fell apart on and I?ve had sieges the body has fallen apart on and fords. The one Chevy had 190,000 and it was complete junk the door hinges were falling off and every piece of trim on it was either broken or falling off or held on with grabber screws and I?ve had the other two just as bad. Your talking about rigs new enough I?ll most likely never own. I have driven a one to. Ford with the 6.2 and 8 speed auto and the best mileage it could return was 9 and if you were lucky 9.8 it weighed 9500 pounds single cab long bed Dually . As far as new diesels go I think you?d have to work one 90 percent of the time to be able to make it pay off with all the new garbage they put on them it costs a lot to fix when it breaks down and the warranty is up
 
Yes tradesman is a plain Jane truck I bought one right at the end of the year Ram had there truck month and seemed to be willing to deal I just felt the used ones they wanted almost as much as a new one if I would have found a used one that I felt would have been a good deal I would have went with a used one would have went wit GMC or Chevy but I?ve got a friend that knows how to work on a Cummins and he told me if I get a duramax I would have to take it to a dealer that?s why I went with the Ram
 
This forum is still the best place to ask Anything and get the facts plus some good opinions. Best thing is we didn't get into the "truck wars". One of the main reasons I like the GMs is the tailgate height is lower than the other two. They are All too tall on a 3/4 ton 4x4 when you're trying to hump something heavy in there alone so even a couple of inches lower is desirable.
And I've always figured if one brand was really inferior to the others it would show in market share. But they all sell well.
Thanks to everyone.
 
Right out of the box the Ram is the "best truck" according to Motor Trend - that being said I wouldn't buy one and if you gave me one I'd trade it. There is a reason Ram/Dodge can't cut it in the fleet market. Every fleet managers out there read the cost of ownership information and Ram/Dodge is horrible. In 2019 they dropped their much touted V6 diesel - but brought it back again for this year. The warranty on that engine was eating them alive so with minor upgrades they brought it back because Ford and Chevy both rolled out half ton diesels this year. The 4.7 engine (not available anymore) has abysmal reliability ratings - the 5.7 is OK at best. Chevy and Ford (since 2011) have their gas engines figured out - Ram's big improvement was dropping the 3.7 (what a POS) and replacing it with the 3.6 (a good minivan engine). I was kind of surprised to learn the Ram is down to three engines 3.6, 5.7 and the 3.0 diesel in their half tons - Ford offers 3 V6 gas engines in addition to their V8 engines and diesel.


The best combination of price and reliability my company has found is the Chevy 5.3 in the LS package (below LT but ahead of WT). Personally I am looking hard at a twin turbo Ford XLT with the 2.7 if not that then the 5.0.
 

Ford base truck is the XL.
We searched for trucks last year, the best bang for the buck was the XL with the STX package.
We ended up finding a 15k mile lease return 2018 model in NC, got it for $14k under MSRP.
 

I go for price and condition now.

Last used truck I just said 4x4 crew cab with tow mirrors and built in trailer brake. Found a truck meeting all that in a couple days.

Truck before that I had an impossible list to meet but found a truck that had all but 3 things from being perfect. Took me 6 months.

I used to "build" trucks online and that dang rubber floor seemed to be hard to get and not get "packaged" out off.

Unicorn trucks are hard to find new let alone used, they all seem to be full load or complete stripper models.
 

Ford with a 6.2 is a flat out work horse you can tow and run with the big dogs everything is beefed up... A ford with a little v6 turbo will break your arse when it comes time for major repairs and it will happen bank the money you save in fuel that little v6 will need it...

Ford with the 5.0 are great everyday run about's but not up to the chore of heavy hauling...

You got to pick one and live with it I will take the one that takes on all comers : )... They all eat ...
 

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