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USDA CCC-866

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TDJD

01-16-2020 15:13:24




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What is the ccc-866? Iíve never heard of it before, so what is it for and what does it do?
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Mutt and Jeff

01-17-2020 03:30:49




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:13:24  
We own old iron old tractors
we may or may not be actual farmers
or lawyers for that part

is this a political question?

I just don't get the relationship to antique tractors.



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TDJD

01-17-2020 06:16:34




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to Mutt and Jeff, 01-17-2020 03:30:49  
Iím not trying to step on any ones toes. I see a lot of people on here that have farms, or some land. So I thought I would ask someone who has seen it before what it meant. We thought it was for crop rotation, but we donít want it rotate our crops.



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Traditional Farmer

01-17-2020 04:09:39




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to Mutt and Jeff, 01-17-2020 03:30:49  
If that was truly the standard here over half the posts would be gone,its only brought up as a standard by some folks when they don't like what the poster has to say.



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TDJD

01-16-2020 15:35:30




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:13:24  
Iíve seen the form, what Iím wondering is what is the purpose/benefit of it. I was hoping to find out about it from a farmer that has used it.
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paul

01-16-2020 23:06:16




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:35:30  
Looks like you got the predictable Ďwe hate farmersí reply one typically gets on a question like this, likely what you were fishing for. Congratulations.

Someday we can all go hungry, and see how that goes for ya.

Paul



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TDJD

01-17-2020 06:10:08




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to paul, 01-16-2020 23:06:16  
Paul, I was not fishing for any thing. My family got one of these in the mail, none of us knew why we got it, or what itís for. So I was trying to find out (before we call) what itís about.



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Traditional Farmer

01-17-2020 03:33:14




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to paul, 01-16-2020 23:06:16  
Nothing about hating farmers this coming from a farmer,but accurate comments about those living off other taxpayers.Used to be a shameful thing to do years ago.



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Bob Bancroft

01-16-2020 18:10:06




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:35:30  
For whoever has "interest" in a crop, whether that be a farmer, renter, land owner, etc. you can realize some welfare money courtesy of uncle Sam.



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Mutt and Jeff

01-16-2020 15:24:43




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:13:24  
farm welfare


AGRICULTURAL RISK COVERAGE Ė
COUNTY OPTION (ARC-CO) AND PRICE LOSS
COVERAGE (PLC) ELECTION AND CONTRACT
2. State Code 3. County Code 4. Farm Number
5A. County FSA Office Name and Address
5B. County Office Telephone No. (Including Area Code)
5C. County Office Fax No. (Including Area Code)
THIS ARC-CO AND PLC ELECTION AND CONTRACT is entered into between the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) and the undersigned producers on the
farm identified in Item 4. Upon approval, this farm and the producers on the farm are enrolled in ARC-CO and/or PLC for the program year identified above in Item 1.
All producers with a share in base acres must sign this contract by the announced enrollment deadline of the applicable program year in order to participate and make
themselves potentially eligible to receive payments for the applicable program year.
The terms and conditions of the ARC-CO and PLC contract are contained in the CCC-862 and CCC-866 Appendix and the regulations at 7 CFR Part 1412. By signing
this contract producers: (1) acknowledge receipt and agree to abide by the terms of the CCC-862 and CCC-866 Appendix; (2) agree to comply with the terms and
conditions of the program and those governing payment limitation and eligibility and adjusted gross income limitation provisions; (3) agree that the terms and benefits of
this program are subject to changes in law; and (4) certify that all the information contained on this form, whether or not personally entered by the producer, is true,
correct, and accurate. All producers agree to participating or not participating on a covered commodity by covered commodity basis in Item 110.
All producers on the farm must agree to the election made in Item 8. If an ARC or PLC election is not made the election defaults to the election for the farm that was
effective under the previous Farm Bill, and no payments will be earned under this contract and farm for 2019. All producers on the farm agree and acknowledge that:
(1) this election is irrevocable for the covered commodities and the farm, or any resulting farm(s) of a reconstitution; (Beginning in 2021, owners may change the election
on the farm); (2) this farm may not be combined with any other farm that has base acres and does not have the same program election applicable for each and all covered
commodities on all farms intended to be combined; (3) even though the producers on the farm may have made an election, producers must still annually enroll the farm
and covered commodity in the ARC or PLC program in order to be eligible to receive ARC or PLC benefits for that covered commodity and crop year; (4) they must
comply with the regulations at 7 CFR Part 1412; and (5) ARC or PLC benefits are subject to change based upon changes to law. FSAís acceptance of this signed form
and use of the form does not equate to FSAís approval of the election. If FSA later determines this election was invalid under 7 CFR Part 1412, the elections indicated on
this form are invalid and will not apply to the farm.
NOTE: PLC yields in Item 10 are only used in the payment calculation of covered commodities that have elected PLC

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Bob Bancroft

01-16-2020 15:22:31




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:13:24  
A quick search will get you the form. It's one of the things you sign at the USDA-FSA office to participate in what I call the "farmers welfare program".



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minnymovista

01-16-2020 19:51:06




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to Bob Bancroft, 01-16-2020 15:22:31  
Iím with ya BOB ! Farmers welfare ! Every other business in the world has to survive on what they sell or service they provide ! I am a small farmer and sell what I produce and choose to do it without any help from the gvt yet the big time farmers claim they are poor and need government money to survive as they drive around in a new $60000 dollar pick up and drive up the the price of any land that goes up for sale ! They are no different than the capable but unwilling folks that show up at the county with their hands out saying they canít work because they choose not to because to work because to them itís free money ! Sure lots will bash me but go ahead when they bury me I can honestly say I have worked for everything I have how many of them will ! If ya canít make it without the gvt help maybe they should throw in the towel like any other business in the world has to !

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ihredrules

01-16-2020 15:21:12




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 Re: USDA CCC-866 in reply to TDJD, 01-16-2020 15:13:24  
That sounds like a good question for your local FSA office to answer.



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