Trip bucket style loader questions

Graveyard1984 · Jan 15, 2020

Those old style front end loaders with the trip style bucket.
Are these loaders still being used?
What uses do they have?
Are they worth anything?
Would you consider installing one on your antique tractor?

Thanks

LAA · Jan 15, 2020

They were mostly used for manure loading but most of them can be easily converted to a single cylinder to operate the bucket, tractor hydraulic capacity limitations were also a big factor.

8NHENRY · Jan 15, 2020

I had a Massey 44 with a Horn trip bucket loader for pushing snow, it worked great. The Horn could lift so high you could almost dump on the front of the tractor.

Mutt and Jeff · Jan 15, 2020

if the shoe fits.....

tractorkrum · Jan 15, 2020

I use one on my Allis Chalmers WD45. I just installed a snow bucket on it. I also have one for my JD M that will be put on it when I restore it. They do not bring much money maybe $100-150 at auctions around my area. (NW Wisconsin)

Traditional Farmer · Jan 15, 2020

Not the best but I've used one with a bale spear on it to load round bales on a trailer.Had one of those ratchet things to adjust the angle of the spear.Sure beat using
Old Armstrong.

connor9988 · Jan 15, 2020

Mutt and Jeff,

My brother recently bought a Case VAI with Profit Loader in a similar configuration to yours.
What kind of rear attachment does yours have? Could you post some pictures of it and how it mounts/operates?
Thank you.

connor9988 · Jan 15, 2020

flipped pic

fred kobs · Jan 15, 2020

For moving snow, I much prefer the trip over a hydraulic bucket. It's just faster to push it up in the pile pull the lever and be 1/4 of the way backed down the drive with it reset and ready for more by the time i shake the hyd bucket trying to get it to clean out and finally start backing. When the trip hits the end of the stop chains the bucket is empty and back you go. That's about the only advantage I see to a trip other than some tractors don't have the oil capacity to lift the loader all the way up let alone the tilt cylinder.

super99 · Jan 15, 2020

I guess that would depend what you are going to do with your antique tractor. If you are just going to look at it and drive in a parade once a year, probably not that valuable. If you actually use your antique tractor, a loader is as handy as a pocket in your pants. Lifting and moving objects is done so much easier with a loader you will find it is probably the most useful tool you have. I have a loader on a Farmall 400 that I use for ALL heavy lifting. Chris

Bret4207 · Jan 15, 2020

I can tell you a trip loader is a lot faster than a manure fork! The limiting factor on old tractors and loaders is often a lack of power steering. Not such a huge factor with a tricycle front but on wide fronts they usually like to be moving to steer easy. For just loading manure or chips or something a trip loader is pretty good. It's when you want to dig or pry with it that the hydraulic bucket shines.

matthies · Jan 15, 2020

I have one on a Farmall H, a cable/hyd Duncan with a snow bucket. I like it since it doesn"t dig in and gouge the dirt. Just floats along the ground and there is three pin holes on the bucket to change the angle. Take it a mile to town and clear the church lot concrete and dirt/grass. Took the cab off of a 74 3/4 ton chevy once, unloaded a mounted 4 btm plow and loaded a dead cow in the back of a pickup, was making a trailer out of the pickup and had the engine out already. The only thing I have and make it work. Neighbor has a 560 with a 325 Dual if I need more.

Tom in TN · Jan 15, 2020

Graveyard,

I have a "one-arm" trip bucket loader on my 1964 Ford 4000 tractor. I don't use it a lot, but right now I use it to haul two bales of hay out to the pasture every day for my 3 cows and 1 horse. Very handy. I have also used it for digging/pulling small tree stumps out of the ground and for general lifting of different stuff.

It isn't real pretty, and a hydraulic cylinder on the bucket would probably be better, but it works okay just as it is.

Tom in TN

Rich'sToys · Jan 15, 2020

I use mine for moving snow every year. 1953 MM UB with Freeman loader.
I dug a few too many rocks with it when we first moved out here, and so sprung the bucket just a little. I have to be a little careful plowing snow or it will gouge a little if the ground is not frozen. Otherwise, it works really well.

jim8923 · Jan 15, 2020

Yes,I think you are correct, l was told about $200.00 for the loaderin

Geo-TH,In · Jan 15, 2020

When I grew up on dairy farm we had one on a Farmall H.

It taught me everything I needed to know about loaders. You need power steering. You need two ways hydraulics if you want down force.
Using the tractor's hydraulic pump is extremely slow.
You need hydraulic to dump or you dump everything at once. Loading cow poo in spreader good chance dumping the poo all at once you might get a face full.
The old loaders were hard on tractors. We cracked the H in half at the bell housing.
I wouldn't want an old pipe loader as a gift because scrap prices are way down.
George.

dhermesc · Jan 15, 2020

I use mine to move big round bales of hay, load manure, pick an engine out of a pickup, etc.... What do you think you can't use a trip bucket loader for? As stated below- its a lot handier than a pitchfork and shovel.

n9lhm · Jan 15, 2020

I have a Freeman 2000 loader on my Farmall MD. Works great to move snow, beats the h*** out of a backblade. The trip bucket loaders dump faster than a hydraulic and the snow slides out better, especially when it is wet and sticky. Just my observation. Brian

Case Nutty 1660 · Jan 15, 2020

Would you mind posting a pic of your Duncan loader? Very few of them left around these days, I have two of them one has not been used since the 60's this one I use every year loading straw bales and other tasks, I have the factory hay head and hay grapple for pulling loose hay form the 30 foot tall stacks you can make wit it,,
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Here I am mounting a jd grapple on it to deal with some broken round bales I have to haul to the pasture

Loading small square straw bales here for what I use it for no current loader will work as well,, thanks again if you can post a pic of yours I have seen very few of this style Duncan,, as they made a few variations
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old popper · Jan 15, 2020

I have a John Deere #45 loader on my 520. Use it to load my plow for plow days and various other lifting tasks. I used to use it for snow removal, but bought a plow for my F-250 so I could enjoy the comfort of being inside.

matthies · Jan 15, 2020

Its just a straight arm loader nothing like yours.

ztrmowers · Jan 15, 2020

grew up using one everyday with the animals around nowdays thou I would not want one to use on daily basis, or would I want to be without my 75hp skidloader

Mutt and Jeff · Jan 15, 2020

I sorta assumed it was a proffit loader but saw no labels, or indications it had any.

those arms and such were (I think) full 1" thick
the rails humungeously heavy

on the rear was a sorta box scraper affair, but it's functionality was not fully established.

Super H Mike · Jan 15, 2020

I use my Farm Hand all the time, from moving snow, manure, dirt, tree branches, etc. Also lifting jobs . I have often thought of making it hyd. dump and putting 2 way cylinders on for down force but never got to that yet. Very valuable tool for me.

Indiana Ken · Jan 15, 2020

Nutty,

I love your pictures - everything about that contraption is functionaly correct - even the front wheels out in front of the tractor. Growing up as a kid that tractor looked ugly to me with the front end like that. I know now it is beautiful and correct.

Thanks for posting - you made my day.

Ken

Case Nutty 1660 · Jan 15, 2020

the later and last version they made ok Thanks

Case Nutty 1660 · Jan 15, 2020

Glad to make your day a bit better Ken,, I also have a platform I mount on the grapple extension arm, I use it for a number of jobs,, last being taking pics for Mark Vos's Case calendar back a few years ago as I needed to be 30' or more off the ground to get the angle of the shot I wanted

I can adjust the angle of the man basket with ease with a move of a lever

It is not for the timid or those who have a fear of heights though

Dennis(IA) · Jan 15, 2020

I have a '51 JD B with a 45 loader. Use it mostly for dirt moving and lifting things. I do have a snow bucket extension for it, but usually move snow with the rear blade on the WD45.

dwag · Jan 15, 2020

That's the loader I'm looking for to put on late FIL's U!

PJH · Jan 15, 2020

I have two JD 45 trip loaders and one Freeman trip loader. I use the 45's a lot - feed round bales with one and the other has soil plates on the bucket. My bale spear fits in the manure tine bucket with two bolts and one pin. I can install or remove it in about a minute. The manure tines are perfect for brush cleanup while cutting firewood.

For loading manure, a trip loader can work faster than a hydraulic bucket - it will instantly reset itself if you have it balanced right. You might have to drop the boom a little at just the right instant, but you'll quickly figure it out. It won't reset itself with the soil plates or the bale spear because the balance is off.

Deere 45 trip loaders sell for $200 - $300 in good shape. I gave $5 and trade for the Freeman loader in good shape, but I had to make brackets to fit my tractors.

People make fun of the old trip loaders, but every time someone in the neighborhood has trusses to set, they call me to bring over my old loader with a jib pole on it. I've set 40' trusses with it.

DR. EVIL · Jan 15, 2020

I grew up running a Stan-Hoist loader with trip buckets on the '51 M with Char-Lynn PS and M&W live 2-way hyd. Any snow over 2-3 inches I scraped up every bit of snow I could with the 80 inch wide snow bucket and made snow mountains for Me and my St. Bernard to climb. If we got a warm weekend after the ground was froze hard we'd clean up hog & cattle feed lot floors. That '51 M and Stan-Hoist loader is sitting out in my shop, designated #2 snow mover. #1 snow mover is a stage 2 Super H, live 2-way hyd, and a converted FORD loader to mount similar to an IH #2000/#2001 loader. Have an 80 inch wide by 16" high blade on it. Can push up piles ten feet high if I have enough snow. It's faster to clean most snows than the loader on the M.
Back 40 years ago loading the old Deere #R spreader with the trip bucket was easy, set the bucket on the side of the spreader, trip the bucket and raise the loader. Loaded some dirt 5-6 years ago in my Pronovost P503 dump cart. 5 heaped loads in a bit over an hour. I didn't want to beat my trailer up, I dropped the tailgate, set a 2 ft long 4x4 on the floor, approached the cart from the rear, set the bucket on the 4x4, tripped the bucket and raised the loader. The cart was only about an inch wider than the bucket. Took a while to get lined up every bucket full. A few partial buckets I could just trip the bucket and let the dirt fall. But a hyd bucket sure would have saved a lot of time and messing around.
I drove trucks and equipment two summers for the township road commissioner. Loaded dump trucks, the spreader truck, all with a Case 530 Construction King TLB, shuttle shift and torque converter drive, I could put 20,000# of rock chips in the spreader truck in 6 buckets in around 5 minutes. Hyd bucket of course, but with that BIG crankshaft driven hyd pump it had fast cycle times even at lower rpm.

Yes, there's still a place for trip bucket loaders!

Geo-TH,In · Jan 15, 2020

No thanks, I'm timid.

Why is it if I made something like your lift, the YT safety police would be all over my butt calling it a death machine?
When I was a kid,
I was trying to load logs with the Farmall H that had a narrow front end. Dad would take logs to sawmill to make lumber for the farm.
I got a lesson on how unstable a tractor gets when raising the center of gravity. The tractor spot me off the seat so fast I have no time to do anything but look at the tractor which flying upside down. Lucky to be alive.

bud from bc · Jan 15, 2020

(quoted from post at 16:43:46 01/15/20) No thanks, I'm timid.

Why is it if I made something like your lift, the YT safety police would be all over my butt calling it a death machine?
When I was a kid,
I was trying to load logs with the Farmall H that had a narrow front end. Dad would take logs to sawmill to make lumber for the farm.
I got a lesson on how unstable a tractor gets when raising the center of gravity. The tractor spot me off the seat so fast I have no time to do anything but look at the tractor which flying upside down. Lucky to be alive.

Thats funny geo, your the first one i thought of when i saw the platform

Indiana Ken · Jan 15, 2020

Nutty,

Enough - enough I am afraid of heights. I almost blew supper!

Ken

Rollie NE PA · Jan 15, 2020

I get good use out of mine.

docmirror · Jan 15, 2020

I'm kinda the other way. I started with a Wagner trip bucket on my 8N. It worked ok but for what I wanted to do moving and shaping dirt, I needed a hyd bucket control. Nothing wrong with trip if one is load, lift, dump - like snow but for shaping or scraping, rather than use the blade in back, most times it's much easier to use the bucket tipped, and force it up, down, tilt, etc.

I guess at $200 if the pump was there, and the hyd for the forks worked, a trip would be ok. I think I paid $150 for mine, but I had to repl the pump. When I upgraded to the hyd bucket, I kept my new pump.

jon f mn · Jan 16, 2020

Not a single 2x4 used on this rig. And no gas powered spinny things hanging from the boards. That being said, I labeled that basket as the basket of death years ago.

Graveyard1984 · Jan 17, 2020

Mine is a double arm

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