in the 60's a company called drummend ex turn your woods into crop land for 100.00 an acre. ran several D-9's, said he could do one acre a hour it was plowable when he left. friend just bought 150 ac farm 40 ac woods he wants it cleared off, bids are over 2,000. per ac, theres no timber there 12-10'' on the stump to junk, firewood. he payed 5500.00 per ac for the farm, and then tile the 40 ac. hope the other farms can help pay for this one.
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Russ from MN
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It should be left as is, we have too much farmland already!
Ole Ringneck
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Here in western Ohio there is usually a reason land is not farmed. Like the ground is to wet , to rocky, poor soil quality, to steep, soil to thin, and cost prohibitive to clear it before a return is seen.
In the 1960's that same farmland would have been worth around $500 after it was cleared and maybe half that before it was cleared. The prices have all risen since then, but they are still proportional.
I'm sure you friend knew the costs to tile and clear that land before he bought it. Falling grain prices might now hurt his prospects of a good return on his investment.
I'm sure you friend knew the costs to tile and clear that land before he bought it. Falling grain prices might now hurt his prospects of a good return on his investment.
We can pretty much make timber land work here in Tennessee is there is tie timber it usually pays for a great part of the clearing. The areas like you describe, what I call a thicket is what is costly. In the summer when the land is good a dry , we use cutting blade and root rakes and still runs around 2 thousand per acre but like the poster stated with good farm land selling like it is no reason to let this land be unproductive. Lots of these bottoms being cleared around here for sure.
Well, I'm not so sure when you look at all the solar fields that are being installed. Those fields seem to be exploding exponentially at least in southern Minnesota and you can't farm a solar field.
Some longer term questions. I wonder who is financing the solar farms? Cloudy days have been more than usual recently and where does the energy come from while the clouds hang around? Not very dependable. Can we believe the life estimates provided by solar equipment? They haven't been around long enough to PROVE their life estimates.
Some longer term questions. I wonder who is financing the solar farms? Cloudy days have been more than usual recently and where does the energy come from while the clouds hang around? Not very dependable. Can we believe the life estimates provided by solar equipment? They haven't been around long enough to PROVE their life estimates.
Russ from MN
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Where we have seen solar farms in MN by Saint Cloud the panels were in the corners of center-pivot irrigated fields, that's pretty much just wasteland anyhow. The solar farms will pay for themselves, and reduce healthcare costs for the citizens! And if it is receiving subsidies it makes a lot more sense than giving it to fossil fuels!
Conservative estimates put U.S. direct subsidies to the fossil fuel industry at roughly $20 billion per year; with 20 percent currently allocated to coal and 80 percent to natural gas and crude oil.Jul 29, 2019
Conservative estimates put U.S. direct subsidies to the fossil fuel industry at roughly $20 billion per year; with 20 percent currently allocated to coal and 80 percent to natural gas and crude oil.Jul 29, 2019
Geo-TH,In
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Stonerock,
INFLATION.
I haven't seen too many things get cheaper. (well, I'm cheap and getting cheaper)
ex: Look at the price of new vehicles?
Everyone wants to eat steak, not mac and cheese.
Many farmers in my hood are removing trees from what used to be fence rows. That can't be cheap. They are bringing big equipment. A tree at edge of field fell on an Irrigation boom. That couldn't have been cheap to repair.
geo
INFLATION.
I haven't seen too many things get cheaper. (well, I'm cheap and getting cheaper)
ex: Look at the price of new vehicles?
Everyone wants to eat steak, not mac and cheese.
Many farmers in my hood are removing trees from what used to be fence rows. That can't be cheap. They are bringing big equipment. A tree at edge of field fell on an Irrigation boom. That couldn't have been cheap to repair.
geo
Tom Massachusetts
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Around here they are mounting the solar panels up high and using the field for hay under them. A little extra work but it seems to pay.
I am in western Ohio. You crear gtound like that you can now get in trouble with the goverment. Must get OK from soil office or loose any goverment benefits like even being able to have crop insurance. Cleared a small patch back in the 70's, now not like then. and then it was perhaps 1 acre on side if pipeline right of way and AT&T lone line cable and just grown over brush on top of lines for perhaps 3 acres total. Don't think could do it now. And solar seems to be working good here now. Even on cloudy days enough of the solar power gets thru. Big problem would be when covered with snow untill it melts enough to slide off.
K Effective
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I can't answer all your questions, but here is a neat link to the grid controller in our area- you get real-time data on what fuel type is producing what amount, and some graphs of when solar is generating, etc. LOTS to look at.
https://www.pjm.com/markets-and-operations.aspx
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