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Are Dodge Trucks Dodges or Rams now ??

Crazy Horse

Crazy Horse

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I must be living in a vacuum, here's something I wasn't aware of about Dodge Trucks, Dodge Ram Trucks, and Ram Trucks. This link below sets the record straight (I think) ..... interesting reading along with some history of the company ....
Dodge Trucks and Ram Trucks .....
 

Well, they used to be Plymounts, then Dodge and now Ram.
They have to keep changing the name because of all the problems they have. They hope to confuse the public.
 
Crazy Horse,

I own a Dodge RAM, probably one of the last ones to carry both names. With little fact to back this up, I thought they had to ditch the Dodge name to qualify for the bailout, seeing as the truck lineup was profitable.

D.
 
Ozlander: I did some Googling, because both Plymouth and Dodge names were around when I was a kid. Actually the Dodge brand of cars showed up in 1914 about 15 years earlier than the Plymouths. Dodge Brothers had apparently been supplying engines and drive trains, etc to other makes since the turn of the century. My dad was a traveling salesman, he had a '57 Plymouth which he drove into the ground, but he did that with all of his cars. I've had two Dodge products, an '87 600 sedan and a 2002 Caravan which we still have, both of those were/are probably as reliable as most brands I would guess from my experience.
 
Fiat owns a lot of stuff, including a couple of companies that make ag related equipment, including tractors. jal-SD
 
My guess is if the fiat- Chrysler venture failed, the subsidiary company Ram trucks could survive as a separate entity. Set up as a stand alone company but owned by FCA.
 
Rams today funny some one says it failed Mopar is selling in greater numbers today than ever before, Ram trucks are no exception used to be here Ford was #1 sold then Chevy, today you see five to seven Rams in a row on the street then one or so of the others thrown in, The Charger and Challengers sell FAST as they also indeed are,, a 300 s one of the nicest Luxury cars on the road today,, and then the Jeep always sold well and continues today,, I have ran Mopars almost all of my life, I have owned a new Ford once NEVER again also a couple Chevy's and a new 79 Trans Am,, you couldnt give me a new Chevy pickup ,, not that they are not made well enough,, I just cant stand the looks of them and they have horrible seats in them, , friend runs GMC pickups on his hot shot service and they do very well for him as far as miles,, he runs them to 350,000-450,0000 miles before replacing but this is all high way miles,, like I said Chrysler units used to be #3 here,, but that has changed since the 90's every year,,
 
I?m not sure who owns whatever it?s called but we?ve been using their products for 8 years now and have been VERY satisfied. The first new vehicle we ever owned was a 2012 Caravan, loved it. We traded it in on a new 2018 Jeep Cherokee and liked it too except we downsized too much still having 2 teenagers at home and one of which plays hockey(lots of STINKY gear). We traded it in summer of 2018 for a new Ram 1500 and absolutely love it. It?s actually not bad on gas for a 395 hp V8 if you don?t put the foot in it too much.
 
My guess as well, they set up the truck division as an independent to sell or keep or whatever as the automotive industry was changing.

Like Sears has done with the Craftsman name.

Paul
 
Fiat is owned by an Italian Holding company called Exor. This holding company also owns Ferrari, Fiat-Chrysler & CNH Industrial. CNH owns Case Construction, FPT Industrial, Case IH, & a couple of other world-wide ag equipment manufacturing plants. Big business that's just a small part of the global economy. jal-SD
 
Well it don't matter. It's a FIAT. Has been sense a certain president forced the sale of Chrysler to FIAT. In the course of things anyone who owned stock in Chrysler including 401 K plans (think blue collar workers) GOT NOTHING! Not even pennies on the dollar.

Rick
 
19.6 US mpg average , my 2015 V6 Colorado gets 22.5 average. The van was about the same as the Ram truck and the Jeep with a V6 was 26.5 US mpg
 
(quoted from post at 16:36:01 01/01/20) And I believe the controlling interest in all of it is owned by the Agnelli family.
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f currently proposed merger happens that will change.. Peugeot get one more board member than FCA as well as controlling interest. So you will get to drive a French-RAM. :)
 
(quoted from post at 15:05:40 01/01/20) My guess is if the fiat- Chrysler venture failed, the subsidiary company Ram trucks could survive as a separate entity. Set up as a stand alone company but owned by FCA.
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The linked article in the original post says Ram is a division within the corporation.

Like GM or Ford and their "seperate" divisions.
 

For a few years now the dealer signs all around me say "Dealer-name CJDR" meaning Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram. Ram is not Dodge.
 
Crazy horse. I was a fan of Dodges until I had transmission issues with 1990 dodge spirit and 1991 grand caravan. Caravan first tranny went out at 50k. Spirit had 60k on factory tranny


Relative has two 1999 dodge 4x4 trucks. Both have tranny issues.

Talk to dodge owners. Ask if they have tranny issues?
George
 
It?s a quad cab Limited,most likely a small V8 but I?m not 100% sure. I don?t really know who owns Ram now or how much government money?s been sunk into the company ,what?s been stated in the thread sounds about right. They do make a good product for the most part. A friend of mine has a new F150 with ecoboost ,it?s a beautiful driving truck and he?s very pleased with it also. I don?t know very many people with new GM?s.
 
(quoted from post at 16:02:12 01/01/20) Well it don't matter. It's a FIAT. Has been sense a certain president forced the sale of Chrysler to FIAT. In the course of things anyone who owned stock in Chrysler including 401 K plans (think blue collar workers) GOT NOTHING! Not even pennies on the dollar.

Rick
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It i s confirmed! :twisted:
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The wife's 2014 two wheel drive crew cab will seat 6 adults,gets 19.6 mpg around here, 21 on the hwy. 168,000 miles on it. The 5.7 is a heck of an engine,I want to line up against my brothers 1979 Little Red Express,I think I can beat him. Problems have been 1 water pump,bad relay on the ac/heater blower motor,and the gas gauge sensor in the tank is bad. I have my name on another lease return at work now.(14 weeks)
 
(quoted from post at 18:08:21 01/01/20) 20 year old trucks with tranny issues? Heaven forbid!
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Well that depends. If it's a 20 year old truck with 200,000 plus miles on it you are right. But if it's a 20 year old truck lightly used with say 150,000? I'd say that was a short life for the tranny. Long as it doesn't sit for long periods light use it should last well past 20 years without issue is say you only drive 5K a year.

Rick
 
It was a marketing decision to separate the Ram trucks from Dodge, it probably has more to do with separating profits or providing shelter from taxes or something. Whatever the reason, the decision seems to be paying off, at least for now and in the last year. Ram trucks have been outselling Chevrolet for all of last year, something that they have never achieved. Ford still has a huge margin over all other brands though and has for a very long time.
 
I recently traded my 2018 Ford F-150 for a 2020 Ram 1500. I compared the Ram, Silverado and Ford. Ram rides much better with coil springs all around, has the nicest interior and the best power train with the 5.7 Hemi. MPG around town about 19 and 21 on road. Have owned 5 F-150s with Ecoboost or 5.0, none performed like the Ram.

The Ram Jeep is one of the most valuable auto franchises around and if FCA ever decided spin it off it could do very well as a separate company. Ram is fastest growing truck line for a reason. This is first Chrysler Product I have owned since 1998. Before you trade trucks again, try one out.
 
(quoted from post at 15:39:32 01/01/20) Crazy horse. I was a fan of Dodges until I had transmission issues with 1990 dodge spirit and 1991 grand caravan. Caravan first tranny went out at 50k. Spirit had 60k on factory tranny


Relative has two 1999 dodge 4x4 trucks. Both have tranny issues.

Talk to dodge owners. Ask if they have tranny issues?
George
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I have a 2000 and a 2001 Ram 1500. Both 4x4. The 2001 is my plow truck, and the 2000 was bought as a backup. Both run and operate exceptionally well! In the past we've had a 1994 Chevy 1500, a 1996 GMC Suburban 3/4-ton, and our current town truck, a 2004 Chevy 1500. NONE of the trucks can compare with the 4x4 of the Dodge trucks.

Also, all this new push-button crap on newer trucks. In my plow trucks, I plow in 4-hi, with no chains or studded tires; just plain old all-season radials. When I get stuck, I just have to shift into Neutral, then move the floor selector to 4-lo. Presto, I'm out! With the 2004 Chevy, (and with the 1996 Suburban, also push-button), the truck has to be moving in a specified speed in order for it to shift ranges. The Dodge trucks can shift from 2wd to 4-hi to 4-lo, all while sitting in the same spot. That said, if you're needing to shift on the go, then push button is better.

An added perk is, when I got the 2000, the guy who owned it was a local race car driver/builder. He had that truck in PERFECT running condition! He was thrilled that I didn't haggle on the price. I was thrilled I got such a gem for so cheap, even if it had a little body cancer.
 
"20 year old trucks with tranny issues? Heaven forbid!"
I sold my 1995 GMC to a preacher friend. It's still on the road 250K. Heaven forbid. He must have laid hands on the truck.

If one needs expert advice about transmissions ask a reputable repair shop for their opinion.
geo.
 
(quoted from post at 14:46:27 01/01/20)
Well, they used to be Plymounts, then Dodge and now Ram.
They have to keep changing the name because of all the problems they have. They hope to confuse the public.
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That's quite a pile.
 
Settle down Geo. Getting your ire up again just because someone disagrees with you. Your the one that keeps preaching tolerance. Time to practice it.
 
(quoted from post at 21:52:59 01/01/20) It was a marketing decision to separate the Ram trucks from Dodge, it probably has more to do with separating profits or providing shelter from taxes or something. Whatever the reason, the decision seems to be paying off, at least for now and in the last year. Ram trucks have been outselling Chevrolet for all of last year, something that they have never achieved. Ford still has a huge margin over all other brands though and has for a very long time.
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Exactly right! But around here all GM trucks start to rust after the first year and you can see through the sides of the beds by the time they are 5 years old. Seriously GM should stick to what they do best, which is not trucks. Not sure what it is, but it is not trucks.
 
I don't realize I sounded angry.

I thought I was making a joke about preacher friend laying hands on my old truck.


I have gotten good advice for my transmission shop which transmission to stay away from.

Have a good day. Peace be with you.
George
 
(quoted from post at 10:12:37 01/02/20) "20 year old trucks with tranny issues? Heaven forbid!"
I sold my 1995 GMC to a preacher friend. It's still on the road 250K. Heaven forbid. He must have laid hands on the truck.

If one needs expert advice about transmissions ask a reputable repair shop for their opinion.
geo.
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How a vehicle is driven will have a detrimental effect on any vehicle.
I know of guys that can destroy any vehicle on the street in a year of three and then blame it on the brand.
They never tell you all of the stupid sheet they did along the way.
 

Comments on the mpg..... has a lot to do with the rearend ratio and towing capacity. They all are very close when similar equipped in that area. A 4.11 rearend is NOT going to get the same mpg as 3.11 rearend. A 4wd will not do as well as a 2wd in most comparisons.. A auto will not do as well as a standard. Only an uninformed person would assume otherwise. Then there are standard cabs, super cabs, crew cabs, super crewcabs... all of different weight. Then there are 5 ft beds, 6ft beds, and 8 ft beds. So your pretty much comparing a grape to the sun.

I will say that the better trim packages are totally different from the strip-down models, so also comparing a entry package to the full packages are totally different experiences as well.

My experience owning one past 50,000 miles... well...

Old saying...."Everyone will own one mopar product. But then most will learn."
 
(quoted from post at 19:42:57 01/03/20)
Comments on the mpg..... has a lot to do with the rearend ratio and towing capacity. They all are very close when similar equipped in that area. A 4.11 rearend is NOT going to get the same mpg as 3.11 rearend. A 4wd will not do as well as a 2wd in most comparisons.. A auto will not do as well as a standard. Only an uninformed person would assume otherwise. Then there are standard cabs, super cabs, crew cabs, super crewcabs... all of different weight. Then there are 5 ft beds, 6ft beds, and 8 ft beds. So your pretty much comparing a grape to the sun.

I will say that the better trim packages are totally different from the strip-down models, so also comparing a entry package to the full packages are totally different experiences as well.

My experience owning one past 50,000 miles... well...

Old saying...."Everyone will own one mopar product. But then most will learn."
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Well you better revise that. Sense they came up with the lock up torque converter and OD autos are getting the same mileage as manuals. That's been true for most brands sense the mid to late 80's.

Rick
 
Well guess I'm screwed as I own both a Chevy pickup and a Dodge Caravan...

Have owned and driven 4 Caravans, two went over 250,000 and were still running when I sold them, one on the original transmission and one had a rebuilt trans at 220,000. 3rd one (05) was sold at 150,000 still in great shape. The 2013 has 40,000 and so far so good.

Traded a 2000 Chevy 1500 4x4 with 270,000 for the present 2010 1500 4x4 which now has 160,000 without anything major. Regular oil changes and proper maintenance goes a long way no matter who made it.
 
I hear so many negative comments about Dodge trucks. I have a 1990 4X4 Dodge W150 that I bought new in Milwaukee. It has been an AZ truck since 91. It is pushing 3000,000 miles and is still running great although the oil pressure is on the low end of normal. The only thing I have done to the engine is replace the water pump. All other externals are original. I have had the tranny rebuilt but have not had to do anything to the transfer case. It had on the fly 4WD but put Warn hubs on it because of a vacuum leak. I have never been left stranded with a break down. My other Dodge PU is a 2001 2WD 1500. It has 161.000 miles on it with "0" mechanical issues other than brakes . In my personal opinion they are great trucks, at least the ones I have.
 
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