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ALKYSBC

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Apologies if this is the wrong spot for this post/question...new to the forum. If it needs to be posted elsewhere, please let me know. My family owns a 1954 Farmall Super M with a wide front end. The axle has broke at the center near the bolster. In searching for parts, it appears to be an oddball, as the steering is forward of the axle and the bolster pin measures 2" in diameter. Everything we have found for axles and wishbones are 1 1/4". My Dad believes that the tractor was delivered as a narrow front, but was later converted to the wide front. Has anyone seen the larger 2" bolster/pin, or know where we could find any such axle/wishbone parts? Thanks in advance!
 
Post a picture of what yours looks like. There where many after market front ends and also a lot of front ends altered to fit other tractors. So yours could easily be one of these types.
 
(quoted from post at 22:11:24 11/04/19) Post a picture of what yours looks like. There where many after market front ends and also a lot of front ends altered to fit other tractors. So yours could easily be one of these types.
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Will do as soon as I can get to the tractor. Thanks for the reply!
 
Schwartz,imco,speeco,and few others made aadd onn
front axles. Plus ihc made several diffrent front
axles too
 

ALKYSBC, Welcome to YT! As a security policy new posters aren't allowed to post pictures, but you can go down to the site comments page and ask the moderator for special permission.
 
Go to case IH parts lookup on line. Put farmall MD in the model search box. Click on that when choice list comes up. Search the
attachment section for wide front. See if one if the one with tie rods out front looks like what you have.
 
Try picture, like this?
cvphoto40961.jpg
 
Not an oddball, it's a factory wide front, and all you are finding for NEW parts are for aftermarket wide fronts.

You're simply not going to find new parts for the original wide front ends on these tractors. They weren't that numerous or popular to begin with, and not desirable at all today.

If you can't weld it back together and make it work your best bet will be to find another complete front end to swap out.
 
I have to differ with you on desirability in todays world. They are highly sought after by collectors.

I do agree they were a goofy set up when these tractors were earning a living, and yes many still are. One of the main reasons
they weren't popular when new is they didn't work well with front mount cultivators and didn't work at all with mounted corn
pickers.
 
Welcome to YT! Going to steal the thread a bit here. Since you?re going post a picture anyway,
how about showing us one of where the alky small block Chevy resides, presuming that is what it
stands for. The others covered your question pretty well.
 
I?ll do you one better. Go to the link I?m posting. It is the CaseIH parts page for your Super M tractor. It goes to the non-adjustable wide front axle option page. However, pivot pin size is not shown in the ?parts detail?. If you click the ?Back to Manual? on top and go to the 2nd page under the chassis group the top line there -296 shows the adjustable front axle as shown in the photo by D Slater. Again the size is not shown in the detail, however it shows that pivot pin to still be available. I will add that there is a specific Farmall section on the board but I have found that most of the folks that answer IH questions also view the Tractor Talk page as well. I will add that the CaseIH online parts page is not real smart phone friendly. To navigate you need to keep things small. I would recommend to a first timer to use a PC. I might also add that it will probably open to a dealer in KS that is near where my tractor resides; you can change that to your local dealer by clicking to button on top. Have fun!
Super M Ft axle parts page
 
Cris in site comments keeps saying that is not so any more, that has been eliminated. You need to keep up with changes by that section.
 
(quoted from post at 10:41:50 11/05/19) Welcome to YT! Going to steal the thread a bit here. Since you?re going post a picture anyway,
how about showing us one of where the alky small block Chevy resides, presuming that is what it
stands for. The others covered your question pretty well.
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I will be at the Folks place over weekend, and hopefully will have pics of the axle set up. Also, once I get picuse allowed, I will post a pic of the Altered that the AlkySBC resided in.

Thanks!
 
(quoted from post at 04:56:41 11/05/19)
ALKYSBC, Welcome to YT! As a security policy new posters aren't allowed to post pictures, but you can go down to the site comments page and ask the moderator for special permission.
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New enough to to the forum, how do I get hold of a moderator to ask permission to post pictures? I finally have pictures of the tractor after 60" of snow has cleared.
 
(quoted from post at 15:07:23 12/23/19)
(quoted from post at 04:56:41 11/05/19)
ALKYSBC, Welcome to YT! As a security policy new posters aren't allowed to post pictures, but you can go down to the site comments page and ask the moderator for special permission.
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New enough to to the forum, how do I get hold of a moderator to ask permission to post pictures? I finally have pictures of the tractor after 60" of snow has cleared.
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Go down to site comments. But start a new thread so that the old Ph@#ts who are stuck on Classic view will see the pics.
 
(quoted from post at 16:15:51 12/23/19)
(quoted from post at 15:07:23 12/23/19)
(quoted from post at 04:56:41 11/05/19)
ALKYSBC, Welcome to YT! As a security policy new posters aren't allowed to post pictures, but you can go down to the site comments page and ask the moderator for special permission.
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New enough to to the forum, how do I get hold of a moderator to ask permission to post pictures? I finally have pictures of the tractor after 60" of snow has cleared.
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Go down to site comments. But start a new thread so that the old Ph@#ts who are stuck on Classic view will see the pics.
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Or you could just make 3 more posts and be able to start posting pictures automatically... IIRC all it takes is 7 posts.
 
(quoted from post at 10:41:50 11/05/19) Welcome to YT! Going to steal the thread a bit here. Since you?re going post a picture anyway,
how about showing us one of where the alky small block Chevy resides, presuming that is what it
stands for. The others covered your question pretty well.
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Here s a pic or 2 of the SBC...
mvphoto46944.jpg


mvphoto46945.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 06:17:24 11/05/19) Try picture, like this?
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto40961.jpg">
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I was finally able to get to the tractor and get a few pictures (posted above). Not sure if the bolster style or casting number would ring a bell for you or anyone else, but there they are. Thanks!
 
That's a period correct IH part number. It's the factory original "tie rods out in front" front end as I suspected. Nothing oddball about it.

Google search on that part number shows it is the factory front axle adapter for an H or M. Unfortunately the CaseIH website is down to go further.

As I said before, the parts you are finding are not for that style of front end. You probably won't find new parts for that front end. You will either need to find used parts or have a new pin made by a machine shop.
 
(quoted from post at 16:33:55 12/31/19) That's a period correct IH part number. It's the factory original "tie rods out in front" front end as I suspected. Nothing oddball about it.

Google search on that part number shows it is the factory front axle adapter for an H or M. Unfortunately the CaseIH website is down to go further.

As I said before, the parts you are finding are not for that style of front end. You probably won't find new parts for that front end. You will either need to find used parts or have a new pin made by a machine shop.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, it is the axle that is snapped, the pin is fine. I m sure we can attempt to weld it again, but my guess is that the metal is fatigued. We ordered a new axle tube, but the pin bushing is for the smaller pin size, and wouldn t have much meat left if bored to the larger size. Reinforcing that unit bored out may prove a better option. Thanks again.
 
(quoted from post at 01:31:20 01/01/20)
(quoted from post at 16:33:55 12/31/19) That's a period correct IH part number. It's the factory original "tie rods out in front" front end as I suspected. Nothing oddball about it.

Google search on that part number shows it is the factory front axle adapter for an H or M. Unfortunately the CaseIH website is down to go further.

As I said before, the parts you are finding are not for that style of front end. You probably won't find new parts for that front end. You will either need to find used parts or have a new pin made by a machine shop.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, it is the axle that is snapped, the pin is fine. I m sure we can attempt to weld it again, but my guess is that the metal is fatigued. We ordered a new axle tube, but the pin bushing is for the smaller pin size, and wouldn t have much meat left if bored to the larger size. Reinforcing that unit bored out may prove a better option. Thanks again.
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Oh sorry, I was going by memory instead of reviewing the topic.

The center tube you ordered is not the right one and the pivot pin hole is the least of your issues. What you probably have is a center tube for a Schwartz front axle as that is the only thing that would be available as a new part today. Have you tried to fit the knees to the center tube yet? I suspect they will be slightly different as well, and a poor fit or no fit.
 
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