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Support for windows seven is no longer being supplied by Microsoft. The computer fix it guys I use, tell me I need a new computer, and be up graded to windows 10. So that's what I'm going to do. What surprises can I expect? Stan
 
When my laptop died a year ago the new one came with Windows ten. I've had no trouble like I thought I would, at least what I want to do is similar to what I had before.
 
If you have a legal copy of 7 installed and no mechanical problems just a few clicks and you can up grade to 10 for Free. I did 3 of mine last week because support from MSFT stops in a few days.
I downloaded a media creation tool from microsoft and you can launch it direct from you computer or from a flash drive. I would download and save to flash drive just in case it goes wobbly but it is a bit easier to launch from your computer. If you never used 10 it is a bit of a learning experience, you can customize 10 to suit your needs. I unclick about everything I can. Have fun.
 
(quoted from post at 20:03:00 12/29/19) Support for windows seven is no longer being supplied by Microsoft. The computer fix it guys I use, tell me I need a new computer, and be up graded to windows 10. So that's what I'm going to do. What surprises can I expect? Stan
This new laptop came equipped with Windows 10 and it was no problem getting used to it. The movie editor is different but once I got used to it I like it better.
 
(quoted from post at 23:20:01 12/29/19) If you have a legal copy of 7 installed and no mechanical problems just a few clicks and you can up grade to 10 for Free. I did 3 of mine last week because support from MSFT stops in a few days.
I downloaded a media creation tool from microsoft and you can launch it direct from you computer or from a flash drive. I would download and save to flash drive just in case it goes wobbly but it is a bit easier to launch from your computer. If you never used 10 it is a bit of a learning experience, you can customize 10 to suit your needs. I unclick about everything I can. Have fun.
xactly! just finished the 7 to 10 free upgrade 2 weeks ago.
 
It would be best to get a new computer designed for win 10 if you want to use the full potential of your machine. We upgraded 8 to 10 on our computer and it worked but we had some strange glitches, one involving the excel spread sheet calculations. Then the printer scanner died and the new printer scanner would not work smoothly with our win 8 converted to win 10. The main problem was involved with scanning documents into the computer which I do a lot of. The computer guys told us the only fix is a computer designed with the speed and ram capacity needed to run win 10 efficiently. The old computer died and the new one that came with win 10 solved all of our little aggravating problems.
 
I liked Windows XP, but have not liked anything newer since then. I swore up and down I'd never get a Windows 10 PC. Well, I have to eat my words. I got a refurbished PC from Walmart.com and, at first, thought I'd end up shooting the thing with a shotgun.

I did a lot of research, read lots of web pages and watched lots of videos, but finally figured out how to set up Windows 10 the way "I" like it! Guess what? It's the best version yet. I have totally eliminated the tiles (I think that's what they're called) as well as Cortana.

If you give Windows 10 half a chance, it'll load up your machine with so much fluff-n-stuff that it can't do anything but keep loading, so you have to learn how to block new apps (formerly called programs) and also how to delete existing apps, including ones that are not supposed to be able to be deleted. You can also choose not to delete them, but to leave them there yet still have them disabled.

I'm not a computer geek, so for me to figure it out means most anyone else can also. If you choose to simply accept the status quo, you do so of your own doing because Windows 10 is completely customizable.

Let me add, I had full expectations to replace it with Linux (which I've also never used). I even took the time to download Linux, but have not installed it. Been happy with Windows 10. The ONLY thing I don't like (so far) is how nuts it is about downloading updates, regardless of what you want or need. I have slow internet, so any other downloading really messes me up. If you have fast internet, you'll likely never know it's downloading anything and your system can stay up-to-date all the time. It will apply many of the updates when the machine shuts down and/or boots up.
 
Just because Microsoft quits sporting it doesn't mean it will quit working. I still have computers on XP that do what they need to do and do it without having to figure out how to disable 1/2 the crap MS thinks I need.

If you like 7, no reason not to keep using it. They will try to scare you with threats of malware if it isn't constantly updated, BS. Just be careful and you won't have any problems.

Never click on a link in an email.
Never go to a game or porn web site.
Just use your head, if it sounds fishy it probably is.
 
(quoted from post at 02:54:21 12/30/19) Just because Microsoft quits sporting it doesn't mean it will quit working. I still have computers on XP that do what they need to do and do it without having to figure out how to disable 1/2 the crap MS thinks I need.

If you like 7, no reason not to keep using it. They will try to scare you with threats of malware if it isn't constantly updated, BS. Just be careful and you won't have any problems.

Never click on a link in an email.
Never go to a game or porn web site.
Just use your head, if it sounds fishy it probably is.
itto all Bob says!
 
Good internet no problem. DSL connection and you're dead.

My desktop is 7 and isn't going anywhere. My wife's laptop is 10 and completely unusable at home unless you hotspot it.
 
There is a Windows 10.. AND a Windows 10 S.
10S is a boiled down version that only lets you use Mightgosoft stuff
and not any outside apps?
While Win10 is a learning curve like all the rest, by now they should have got
all the bugs out. Still need an antivirus service for both.
 
If your computer hardware hasn't been upgraded since new, then yes, you probably need a new system to run Win 10. But there's nothing stopping you from upgrading your current PC; here are the mininum system requirements, according to Microsoft.

<a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028142/windows-10-system-requirements">https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028142/windows-10-system-requirements</a>

I ran Windows 10 at work for about a year before I retired. Although I found it a bit annoying, for the most part it wasn't a difficult transition. At home, all I run is Fedora Linux and I always keep my system up to date. With Fedora, that means daily updates and a major upgrade at least once a year. That makes all the concern about going from Windows 7 to 10 seem kind of silly.
 


Win 7 was, IMO, a much more user friendly system. Win 10 is made for shopping and games. It comes loaded with a lot of garbage many people will never use. I had to spend several months ( I'm not a tech guy at all) getting rid of stuff that I didn't want and would never use. Windows need to develop a system for normal people that use the internet, watch a movie, do their bills and send emails and not a lot else. Instead they cram it with shopping programs and tracking stuff to see where you shop. I'm not a fan.
 
I completely do not understand all of the hype about MS stopping support for Windows 7.

1) I have never needed any kind of support from MS.

2) MS CHARGES for their support. Go ahead and call them for help and see if they don't start out by asking for a credit card to charge.

3) Life goes on the same as it always did. With or without their blessing or support. The big item in their so-called support was really the updates. Most updates were to fix security issues. A decent security program and anti virus will keep things going for a good long time WITHOUT the blessing or support from Mr. Gates.
 
MS has been warning of this for at least four years. I drank the Kool-Aid when they offered the free upgrade. I really didn't like it at first but eventually got used to it. I'm not so sure you'll be needing a new computer though. When the free upgrade came out there was a way to check if your PC could run it. But memory fails (mine, not the computer's).
 
(quoted from post at 23:54:21 12/29/19) Just because Microsoft quits sporting it doesn't mean it will quit working. I still have computers on XP that do what they need to do and do it without having to figure out how to disable 1/2 the crap MS thinks I need.

If you like 7, no reason not to keep using it. They will try to scare you with threats of malware if it isn't constantly updated, BS. Just be careful and you won't have any problems.

Never click on a link in an email.
Never go to a game or porn web site.
Just use your head, if it sounds fishy it probably is.

Except, those of us that know about computers know about security vulnerabilities. Common websites can be compromised, and take advantage of security vulnerabilities. Never had a typo while typing in a website name? Malware creators sometimes make websites using misspelled names. Displayed ads can be compromised (can't block 100% of everything that can be compromised no matter how careful you are). If your firewall isn't set up properly, compromised easily. Not up on all firmware updates for internet connecting devices, issues. Several years ago an "attack" didn't require going to any website or any browser even open, just turn on the computer and not have a setting quite right while connected to the internet. Can't count how many of those I had to fix. And, since some malware can evade detection by taking advantage of security vulnerabilities, you might not even know you're affected. That's how botnets work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet Unpatched systems are responsible for a lot of the spam distribution, and attacks on certain computers, and their other uses, etc., etc. And, many other scenarios for issues caused by not patching.

Using unpatched and unsupported software is a VERY bad idea. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Arguing that using software without known security issues being patched, isn't an argument. Telling people the truth is not "trying to scare" them. So no, not bs. Drive a vehicle? Have a safety recall? Good idea or bad idea to keep driving it without getting it fixed? Fire, crash, injury, etc., doesn't matter, right? Of course you might get by without anything happening, doesn't mean it wasn't a valid recall, just means you were lucky.

I didn't go through this guide to see if everything still works, but it's a starting point. https://www.thewindowsclub.com/make-windows-10-look-like-windows-7
 
"Good idea or bad idea to keep driving it without getting it fixed?"
And, to go along with this. It's not just your own computer/vehicle you put at risk, you can crash into other "vehicles" due to the not fixed issue.
 
The old one on 7 had issues so we went with the update & 10. I felt we went backwards ever since. Wife says you just have to get used to it. Been over a year & I am still not used to it.Just seems to be more complicated.
 
if 7 works for you keep it.

we went Win 10 a few years ago. took us a long time to adjust.

if you are worried about tech support go with Geek Squad. we have it and it has bailed us out many times'. we are NOT computer savvy when it comes to fixin things.
 
(quoted from post at 06:59:32 12/30/19) I completely do not understand all of the hype about MS stopping support for Windows 7.

1) I have never needed any kind of support from MS.

2) MS CHARGES for their support. Go ahead and call them for help and see if they don't start out by asking for a credit card to charge.

3) Life goes on the same as it always did. With or without their blessing or support. The big item in their so-called support was really the updates. Most updates were to fix security issues. A decent security program and anti virus will keep things going for a good long time WITHOUT the blessing or support from Mr. Gates.

The security updates are what most care about, that's the big deal most are concerned with, not the talking to MS part. Regarding 3, no, life does not go on the same as it always did. Unpatched security vulnerabilities can help to allow malware to avoid detection, circumventing the programs that are installed. Antimalware is only part of the protection, updates being another.

Wannacry is one example. It could bypass antivirus programs, targeting unpatched systems. In fact, Microsoft released emergency patches for unsupported systems in order to stop the attack. They shouldn't have to support and put resources toward "ancient" products indefinitely for free.

https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/166744/how-did-wanna-cry-get-past-antivirus-programs
 
If you are proficient with 7 I don't think you'll have a lot of trouble transitioning. I recently bought a win10 machine and took some time to familiarize myself with it and I think it's better overall than win7.
 

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