Funny how someone is too cheap to buy an owners manual,but will spend hundreds/thousands of dollars fixing something that reading the manual would have prevented? How they will refuse to spend 5 dollars on a rain cap,but spend 5000 dollars rebuilding a stuck engine.Or not replaceing plow shares,but will replace the frog...Just sayin......I suppose I'm just as guilty as the next guy.
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Sean Feeney
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.25 worth of grease can save a lot of $
Janicholson
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Kinda like driving in the ditch all the time. Jim
John Deere D
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Good morning DeltaRed........You posted exactly what I have thought for years...
I have noticed so many individuals will not spent a $.....on pertinent literature....but will keep shooting themselves in the Foot...
X 2 as per DeltaRed...........
Bob...
I have noticed so many individuals will not spent a $.....on pertinent literature....but will keep shooting themselves in the Foot...
X 2 as per DeltaRed...........
Bob...
Fordfarmer
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Yep... I occasionally fix up (NOT restore) Ford tractors and resell them. Always give the new owner a manual... but sometimes you wonder if it will ever be read.
guido
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Hello DeltaRed,
Been turning wrenches for many moons, never had a manual handed to me for any equipment brought in for repairs. I did trade for an homelite chainsaw that the owner could not start. Second tankful of gas maybe. The nanual came with it, still intact in the shrink wrap!
Guido.
Been turning wrenches for many moons, never had a manual handed to me for any equipment brought in for repairs. I did trade for an homelite chainsaw that the owner could not start. Second tankful of gas maybe. The nanual came with it, still intact in the shrink wrap!
Guido.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
First thing I do when I buy a piece of equipment or a tractor I don't already have one of is to buy all the original manuals for it.I hate reprints and PDF things.On the New Holland chain balers I have a book of manuals from a dealership that had all the different balers NH built.Have a complete set of factory manuals for Oliver tractors from an old Oliver dealership.Also try to buy some ad literature on things too,have quite a collection.
Gotta agree. Got a son in law who drives me up the wall. Throws parts at a problem time and again. I keep telling him to troubleshoot first.
On another note, we are 25 miles from the nearest box store. Yea, if you are going to be there anyway it pays to stop. But time and again I've seen people get in a vehicle and drive 25 miles one way to save just a buck or 2 without a thought to gas or wear and tear to buy one item.
Rick
On another note, we are 25 miles from the nearest box store. Yea, if you are going to be there anyway it pays to stop. But time and again I've seen people get in a vehicle and drive 25 miles one way to save just a buck or 2 without a thought to gas or wear and tear to buy one item.
Rick
Keith True
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I like paper.I want books for everything.I have books for things I will never own,but might work on someday.A few years ago there was a young fellow tinkering up a 62 VW,it was cold so I let him finish it up in my garage.He had manuals,but they were at his home 70 miles away.He needed a brake pedal measurement to set the rod,so he asked on the Samba,a VW forum.He stated in his question that he owned a manual but it was not in front of him,so that was why he was asking on there.In a couple of hours he had a dozen replies telling him which manual to buy,the best place to buy it,a couple had one for sale,and some even telling him what page it was on.Not one of these guys,some of whom are like encyclopedias when it comes to old VW's saw fit to just type 10 MM.That was all he needed.After we found the information elsewhere somebody responded to his question,he said why can't somebody just answer the mans question? We're supposed to be offering help,not making more work for somebody.Lot different situation than somebody trying to rebuild their machine by asking 100 questions on a forum.
yep,people routinely drive to 'Sam's Club' in Grand Junction(50 miles away) to do their weekly grocery shopping. They figure it's 'cheaper'.Then they complain when the smaller(who has the same selection) local store goes out of business.Their husband/wife is then out of a job.They just don't get it.
Hay hay hay
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A guy will drive 25 miles to the store to get a bolt. Is it 2.5 inches or 3 inches? Not sure, just give me the 3". Need nuts and washers? nope, the old ones are OK.
2 bolts, 2 nuts and 2 washers...labout $1. If it doesn't fit, it is an hours drive back round trip and 3 gallons of gas.
The old gent that owns the local metal shop tells me this is an everyday occurrence and at least 25% drive back the next day to get the extra parts he tried to sell them.
2 bolts, 2 nuts and 2 washers...labout $1. If it doesn't fit, it is an hours drive back round trip and 3 gallons of gas.
The old gent that owns the local metal shop tells me this is an everyday occurrence and at least 25% drive back the next day to get the extra parts he tried to sell them.
Dave H (MI)
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My favorite tax question. "Should I buy something so I can deduct it on my taxes?" My response is always the same. Only if you have some other reason to do it. Otherwise you are spending a dollar to save a few pennies. Only makes sense for self employed people and not always then.
Crazy Horse
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Why spend money on a manual when you can ask here for free and usually get a good answer? LOL !!!! And that's saving a lot more than a dollar !!!
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
We have a Sams Club about 10 miles from my house so no big deal to drive there,wife usually hits it once a month to stock up on large items.Even if it were 100 miles round trip in the Corolla that'd be 3 gallons of gas.Gas at Sam's is now around $2 gal so that's $6 for the trip.She'll save more than that on paper towels, usually at sam's large packages of things with 2X amount of whatever costs just a little over what one package would be at a regular store.
Old saying and very true in all its variations. My favorite is those that will do something a dozen times crudely instead of spending money and doing it right. Another example is the guy fighting with a chainsaw shop over a $35 repair but spent $400 on a propeller so his boat would go 'a little faster"
retired farmer
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Checked on a price of a manual for our new to us Case IH 3394 tractor this past summer, at over $600.00 I don't need it that bad.
I repair several tractors, and pieces of equipment for a local farmer friend. Fortunately, he does have manuals, unfortunately, they are usually ten miles away(he rents several small acreages) but usually if I can't get a mental picture of how it works, Google has worked pretty well for me. I'm usually closer to my home than his shop. 50+ years of banging my knuckles has given me a pretty good reference manual in my head.
I have owners manuals for most of the stuff around here,they are good for buying replacement oil and fuses. But I have the JD service manual for my front deck lawn mower. It came with the mower and it has saved me a fortune in antacid pills. It did take the book to explain how the PTO works(electric magnet)
Northvale PA
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Amen, brother!!
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
Sounds high but one major repair because you didn't know what you were doing and it would suddenly sound pretty cheap.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
A boss I used to have was something like that.Do something that cost the company $20 and you'd never hear the end of it,do something that cost several thousand$ and he'd just say Oh well we all make mistakes.
Clarence Slydell
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I've seen good answers and great explanations here and I've seen ridiculous answers and amazingly wrong explanations here.
Now if the person asking has absolutely no idea about what they are asking how do they tell the good from the bad?
Buy or download a manual.
Ken Macfarlane
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Was given a makita reciprocating saw. The part that goes up down was busted. Ordered it for 35$. While picking it up the parts guys saw the cord and says I got a new one of those for 20$, ok sure. Put it together. Second use the variable speed dies. 50$ for one of them. 105$ for an old saw with no quick change. A new one on sale is like 70$. Dumb me.
Donald Lehman
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MAYBE it had a good engine. More likely it didn't.
You have the price of that manual very close to correct. And then, the manual shows you how to take everything apart and put it together but nothing about how it works. You have to have the training manuals for that.
Don't think they will sell you them as they are what we got when we went to the training sessions. Never saw one come into the dealership except when someone went to the training.
I have some of the training manuals on the early Magnums along with a good share of the service manuals. As CaseIH revised the manuals they replaced whole sections at a time and me being the guy who filed all the books back then, I just took them on home.
Problem is, sure as heck the section a guy needs will be one I don't have.
I believe the latest manuals they sell are well over 1K for last several years. I went to a dealer closeout auction several years ago and the manuals were selling for over 400 bucks and that was for late model Case Tractors . I hung around and bought a bunch of the $5 ones at the end of old service bulletins etc.
Don't think they will sell you them as they are what we got when we went to the training sessions. Never saw one come into the dealership except when someone went to the training.
I have some of the training manuals on the early Magnums along with a good share of the service manuals. As CaseIH revised the manuals they replaced whole sections at a time and me being the guy who filed all the books back then, I just took them on home.
Problem is, sure as heck the section a guy needs will be one I don't have.
I believe the latest manuals they sell are well over 1K for last several years. I went to a dealer closeout auction several years ago and the manuals were selling for over 400 bucks and that was for late model Case Tractors . I hung around and bought a bunch of the $5 ones at the end of old service bulletins etc.
roaddevil49
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When all else fails,read the manual!
roaddevil49
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When all else fails, read the manual!
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