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Ultradog MN

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Maybe I'm showing my ignorance about feeding cattle here but I've always thought all cows were vegetarian.
Do they feed animal byproducts to cows or is this labling just another marketing gimmick?

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All sorts of things are used in feed additives. Not much animal by product is used in cattle feed since the mad cow issues, but there are still some. Chicken poop has been a common add in at some feedlots, while we could debate whether that is vegetarian or not, the chicken feed which ends up in the manure is most definitely not vegetarian.
 
Rendered animal carcasses (tankage) has been used an ingredient in some cattle feed for decades. The (2003?) Mad Cow Disease outbreak and the poor response to control it scared the Japanese away from American beef for what, almost fifteen years?
 
Remind him what used to be added to chicken feed. Lots and lots of dry ground up chicken gguts.You would scream what used to be in pet foods. Let us not forget weight reducer pills in the late 1800s. They worked REALLY well. Had tapeworm eggs in them.
 
Bone meal used to be a common protein source. I remember dad using it some for dairy feed way back with poor results, I'm not sure why. I used it some for hog feed but it made the sows cannibalize the piglets more. I know they quit using it for cattle after the mad cow thing, but don't know about other feed. I have heard about the dries chicken manure in cattle feed.
 
I read most of the article, 35% prime 88% choice and 2% select has been explained to me. Now I need someone to understand it for me.
 
Back when I lived in Leigh NE an Alpo dog food plant came to town. It should have been put 20 miles out side of town due to the bad smell from it all the time. They would go to farms around the area and pick up dead cows that where days old to turn into dog food. Plus most any other dead animals
 
So you don?t think dogs will scavage carcasses found by them. You think it not natural? I?ve got a lab that brings up old decomposed cattle/deer legs routinely.
 
Your byproducts building is used for city equipment storage now. I am to young to remember the smell, but there was still trucks around the area that hauled to Norfolk. Buddy in West Point is doing animal pickup now.
 
Pet food is NASTY!

Evidently there is no inspection.

There is a Purina plant here, they poison the rats when the break even cost on poison and consumption cross.

Load out the dead rats with a FEL!

Think about this...

Where is the first place every crawling baby heads...

The dog food bowl!
 
the real eye opener for me was watching an "AG DAY" show where they would take a bobcat and mix 1 scoop of chicken poop and a scoop of sawdust a few minerals and give it to feeder cattle. puts new meaning into raising your own meat.
 
(quoted from post at 06:06:45 12/03/19)
(quoted from post at 07:58:16 12/03/19) Why are we importing Asian beef in the first place?

To help drive down the price of cattle that's already too low.

I would like to point out that the article indicates that the beef shown here was raised in Texas rather than imported. In other words, it's good American beef, and probably worth the money vs. Angus, etc. Also, I'm fairly certain we [i:44de9ec742]export[/i:44de9ec742] beef to Japan, rather than import it.

As far as additives/by-products in feed are concerned, chicken litter was and still is commonly used around here. I haven't personally used it, but know many others who have. A few years ago we had a severe drought, and therefore little hay. So, many of the locals bought semi loads of chicken litter, mixed it with distillers grain and rice krispies (culls, also bought by the semi load) and fed it all winter, along with what little hay they had. I won't say it made fat cattle but it kept them from starving to death.

Mac
 
Did I say there was anything odd or wrong about the Alpo plant?? I did not other then the smell. When I take a deer I leave the carcass lay for the dogs and cats to chew on saves on the dog and cat food bill.
 
We have always been able to feed a cow, a hog and a chicken on the same ear of corn. Cow will eat the ear and pass some whole grains which the hog will eat and pass some bits and pieces which the chicken eats.
 
Back in the 70s or 80s I read an article, the experiment stations were planing on eliminating fiber from the bovine diet. They had developed some plastic pellet that was mixed with the mineral and starch and protein mix, and fed. The pellets were washed out of the manure and recycled into the feed.

The cattle did well on the fake fiber, or so the article went, and it was much cheaper to buy and recycle the pellets than to grow, harvest, store, feed fiber hay.

Never heard anything of it since then.

Paul
 
Back when I drove for a local trucker I would haul meat and bone meal to the local layer chicken facility. It was not fun stuff to get out of a hopper trailer.
 
Well, guess it was a 1960s idea, recycled in the 1980s....

https://oklahoman.com/article/1963880/plastic-hay-getting-new-impetus
Plastic hay
 

I see wagu beef advertised by a lot of Boston area restaurants. It looks like the American Akaushu Breeders are getting ready to do to the Angus breeders what the Angus breeders did to the Hereford breeders. There are often much better opportunities in the higher end of a market than the low end.
 
Our Lab once brought home a 8 lb prime rib roast . wrapped in freezer paper on Christmas Eve. We assumed someone set it on their porch to thaw. We always mentioned the anonymous family in our Christmas day "Grace" LOL
 
We visited a dairy farm that took the cow manure and put it in a SlurryStore, and harvested the methane to run a generator. They then spun the manure to use the liquid for barn cleaning, and burned the solid residue for heating water. They then fed the ashes to bulls and other non-producing cattle. Hard to believe it had any nutritional value at that point, but there must have been some!

I hadn't heard of the plastic hay idea before, that sounds like French Fries to me- they are just a delivery device for the ketchup.
 
(quoted from post at 14:03:55 12/03/19)
I see wagu beef advertised by a lot of Boston area restaurants. It looks like the American Akaushu Breeders are getting ready to do to the Angus breeders what the Angus breeders did to the Hereford breeders. There are often much better opportunities in the higher end of a market than the low end.

LOL

Never gonna happen. It's a niche market and it will always be a niche market.
 

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