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Best thing I ever did was switch to natural gas. I just often wonder when natural gas will run out. It can't go on for ever. Stan
 
Just read where the natural gas is contributing to the whole climate change deal. So much for the clean air natural gas buses for the big uncivilized places.
 
Here is an article on local news tonight.
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (WTHI) - If you still need to buy propane to heat your home this winter, you'll be paying more than normal for this time of year.

Propane prices have jumped nearly 50 cents over a 10-day period earlier this month.


This is due to an increase in demand for propane.

More farmers are using propane to heat their grain bins this harvest season.

It is to dry wet corn.

Greg Jordan is the branch manager for Ceres Solutions in Terre Haute.

He told us they have not had a problem filling their orders, but the demand is causing a financial impact.

"Trucking companies do add demurrage on their bill because they are waiting in line. They're not being able to haul as many loads, so there is a demurrage charge on each one, and unfortunately, everybody suffers with that and we have to pass it on to the consumer," Jordan told us.

He said the price may not go up anymore if the demand levels out.
 
I don?t have a drier, but yes all around me there are propane shortages. Southern MN. Neighbor was waiting a few days.

My understanding is there is plenty at the terminals down south, but we are using more and a month later than normal for corn drying and so the pipelines and such are busy with other stuff.

Some years the coops around here on natural gas get cut off for several hours in a cold year when pipelines run low on pressure.

Paul
 
Stan,
Instead of a fart tax on cows, hook up a machine and capture the Cow's NG.

Don't think we'll ever run out of NG. Look at how much is concentrated in DC.
geo.
 
City had CNG busses. They got rid of them because the Maintance cost was too much.
A few years ago I saw CNG busses at Grand Canyon.
They claimed the busses were cleaner. Bus drivers said the busses were slower.
Not sure, I think they said cummins modified diesel engines to run on CNG. They sounded like diesels. Exhaust had no apparent particle matter, black smoke, and no smell.
geo
 
In the western corn belt, new grain elevators are often built near the intersection of a rail line, one or two major highways and access to a natural gas line.
 
Yes it is short in the whole midwest. My son drives semi and this time of year he haul propane. When the pipeline is full they can load 10 semis per hour. Right now there is that much coming out of the pipelines before it gets here they can only load two per hour. The WI Gov. declared an emergency and that stopped almost all ag propane. His boss sent drivers to South Dakota and southern MO. this week hunting for gas for farmers. Our late season along with cold temps have many farmers using twice the gas they did last year. Sounds like there is plenty at the terminals in the south but just some issues with getting it here with the current high demands. Tom
 
I contracted all the propane that I need for this winter for $1.14/gallon. It's not for drying grain, but for heating my house. I'm glad I did.
 
I guess you can blame Canada for the shortage of propane. I'm seeing more grain dryers running here than ever before. It has been the wettest and worst harvest in 50 years. What grain was harvested is mostly tough and needs drying so the propane trucks are kept busy. A few might be on natural gas but from what I understand you need to have the big gas line to run a dryer. My yard only has the small line for house heating. I hear propane is 53 cents a litre here.
 
It takes more gas to dry when it is cold out, and more when crops are wet, so double whammy.

Our corn came out real dry last year.
 
The engines are based on diesel models with different components. As we speak I am watching a 95 liter running on high pressure propane.
 
still being made underground just like oil is every day not going to run out any time soon, most think there is only what is in the ground right now,, nope, they used to burn it off by flaring here because we have so much of it they could not get rid of it,, still thousands of oil wells here with it that is not even being taken off just the oil as it does not pay to sell it with out a sales gas line to do it and the tree people have done their best to stop pipe lines,, we can still put in as many lines in our State as we want but to get new transmission sales lines through others where its needed is a huge battle
 
(quoted from post at 20:25:30 11/15/19) Best thing I ever did was switch to natural gas. I just often wonder when natural gas will run out. It can't go on for ever. Stan
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Your great-grandchildren will still have it thanks to modern extraction methods.
 
(quoted from post at 21:42:05 11/15/19) Rusty 6
I farm about 10 or 12 miles south of you.
Propane delivered this evening - 61c/litre!!!
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Wow! Price going up? Or maybe I was quoted the wrong info. It was second hand information I got earlier this week.
 
There is a delay in getting propane around here for dryers but not totally cut off. Earlier this week they cut off natural gas to the elevators as well cause it was too cold to conserve gas for home heating. Wondering if we will see a price spike on propane like back in fall of 2013-14? or so. It was another year of a lot of corn drying all over along with cold spells.
 
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