Diesel Anti-Freeze

WNYBill · Nov 13, 2019

I bought diesel a month ago and cashier didn't know if it was the winter formula. Which additive do I buy?

grizz02 · Nov 13, 2019

I use Howes diesel treatment , power service is another , with power service you must over treat the ratio , also after adding what ever you use run the engine awhile to get in to the whole system

grizz02 · Nov 13, 2019

also I don't what part of the country you are in but you might be able to get winter blend diesel or #1 then you would not have to worry about treatments where I leave they don't blend the fuel yet it can get cold

timcasbolt · Nov 13, 2019

(quoted from post at 14:38:32 11/13/19) I bought diesel a month ago and cashier didn't know if it was the winter formula. Which additive do I buy?

I'm guessing you're in Western New York, which has probably been getting treated fuel for a couple months. If you're still not comfortable, dump in a couple gallons of kerosene.

DoubleR · Nov 13, 2019

I dump Power Service. the stuff in the white bottle sold everywhere, in my bulk tank. Service the filters on all my diesels yearly. I haven't had any problems and it can get down to -20 in the winter where I live.

Shetland Sheepdog · Nov 13, 2019

Back before treated fuel, or diesel blends, we used to run straight #2 in the warmer months, but would "home" blend 40% #1 & 60% #2, for winter use.

David from Kansas · Nov 13, 2019

I have been using power service in two tractors we use in the winter and have not had any problems. Last winter it got down to -12F if I remember correctly.

jacksun65 · Nov 13, 2019

Howes is the best, Power service is mostly alcohol might as well get some 90 rubbing and pour it in.

paul · Nov 13, 2019

That?s like asking which brand pickup or tractor should I buy.

Just follow the label and get it in and running through your system -before- the cold hits can?t pour the additive in the tank when it?s 5 degrees out and start up, your filter and all will already be gelled. You need to act early, not late with this.

Paul

Scott 730 · Nov 13, 2019

(quoted from post at 10:47:28 11/13/19) Howes is the best, Power service is mostly alcohol might as well get some 90 rubbing and pour it in.

More hearsay getting perpetuated again. :roll: If Power Service is so terrible, why does the white bottle proudly display the Cummins logo as an endorsement?

showcrop · Nov 13, 2019

(quoted from post at 07:47:28 11/13/19) Howes is the best, Power service is mostly alcohol might as well get some 90 rubbing and pour it in.

Jackson, how about something to back up that claim?

RayP(MI) · Nov 13, 2019

I have been using powerservice with good results. Fuel trucker gave me a 2 1/2 gal can. Lots of diesel can be treated with that. I usually like to wait a while for summer diesel to be drawn out of tanks and new winter fuel in before buying fuel in late fall, during first cold snaps...

showcrop · Nov 13, 2019

Treatment will not take the place of having #1 blended in. When I have to use non-blended which is usually for a few gallons every year I pick up some #1 and blend it at 1:3, then add the Power Service as directed.

jon f mn · Nov 13, 2019

I've said it many times, and
I'll say it again here,
truckers who burn hundreds of
times more fuel.than farmers
and in much worse conditions
use Howes at least 10-1 of all
the other brands combined.
Every trucker has a story of
power service letting them
down. Howes works and works
well. I'm a farm tractor if
your power service let's you
down it's a short walk to
safety, in a truck you can be
dozens of miles from the
nearest safety and hours from
rescue. Truckers can't afford
the risk and use Howes
overwhelmingly. Just go to any
truck stop and you will see
pallets of Howes and a few
bottles of all the rest.

john in la · Nov 13, 2019

Jackson and Jon F do not need proof.
I will back up their claim.

Lazy WP · Nov 13, 2019

Back in 2012 none of the treatments worked. I have always ran Howes. Had a 7045 Allis gel up with it. Neighbors and a newer Ford gel up with Power Service. Both of us were running what we thought was blended fuel.
I ended up with a space heater under my tractor and 3 times the rate of Howes. Pretty much how we got through the winter.

Donald in MN · Nov 13, 2019

go to project farm you tube channel and watch which diesel anti gel is best. he does a test on many different anti gels. then you can decide which is best.

Tony in SD · Nov 13, 2019

X2 what Jon f man said. In addition to that Howe?s was recommended to me by 2 diesel mechanics that owned their own shop. Both shops only dealt with Diesel engine, pumps and injectors. 1 was in Kansas the other in northern South Dakota where it gets way below zero. It has served me well. I have limited experience with any other additives.

paul · Nov 13, 2019

Another issue in my state, perhaps others, is we get a 5% biodiesel fuel in winter, and up to a 20% biodiesel mix in summer fuel. So if you bought some diesel here in September and are trying to run it in the dead of winter, you are putting a 20% biodiesel blend through the cold filters. That can be difficult! You need to be aware of what your fuel is, when you bought it, and so forth.

I like the biodiesel I?m all for it, you just have to know a little bit what you are doing. Biodiesel likes to gel a little sooner than regular diesel, depending on the percentage.

Paul

Straw Boss · Nov 13, 2019

Check out my post I just left two threads below this one.
I have cases of Howes sitting in my shed I'll never use.
Had a late harvest one year that went past New Years and it was one cold S-O-B well below zero.
Fuel guy kept dumping Howes in the 1,000 gallon bulk tank of #1 fuel thinking he was doing me a favor.
Worst harvest of my life! Had to carry filters on the combine and change them two or three times a day until harvest was over.
DO NOT PUT HOWES IN #1 DIESEL FUEL!
I'm not going to write it out a second time but look at the thread on diesel just below this one and read it there.

Scott 730 · Nov 13, 2019

(quoted from post at 11:18:38 11/13/19)

(quoted from post at 10:47:28 11/13/19) Howes is the best, Power service is mostly alcohol might as well get some 90 rubbing and pour it in.

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More hearsay getting perpetuated again. :roll: If Power Service is so terrible, why does the white bottle proudly display the Cummins logo as an endorsement?

I need to clarify my post. I am not taking sides in the Howes vs. Power Service peeing match. I have used both. I'm calling BS on the alcohol claim. Carry on.

grizz02 · Nov 13, 2019

its not that its bad its the ratio they claim is inaccurate , you must a least double there ratio

JK-NY · Nov 13, 2019

The 9-1-1 power service contains alcohol and is for emergency use for gelled fuel. The white bottle power service does not contain alcohol and is an anti gell additive.

guido · Nov 13, 2019

Hello,

Some stations display it, but pump fuel is blemded for temperature and location. Don't fill up in Florida then drive to Maine in January, for obvious reasons,

When I was @ Mobil the winter blend started on Oct. @10% ended in Feb @40%. Then 30% in March 20% in April. Always adjusted by month for temp if needed. That was what the tankers can only get @ the loading rack.

Guido.

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