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grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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I got 3 different tractors with just water in the radiator......ford 640, Allis B and farmall A. If I pull the bottom hose off radiator will it drain enough out of engine? Or do I need to do more? If I put the hose back on and add a gallon of antifreeze I will have to let them run to mix it in with what's left in the engine? Thanks.
 
Just draining the radiator is risky, but better than nothing.

There will still be water in the block, but it won't be full.

There is a drain plug on the side of the block, but often difficult to get out and very likely to be clogged with sediment. It will take a lot of poking to get it to drain.

Best to put antifreeze in, start it up and get it up to temp and circulating.
 
(quoted from post at 12:41:48 11/12/19) I got 3 different tractors with just water in the radiator......ford 640, Allis B and farmall A. If I pull the bottom hose off radiator will it drain enough out of engine? Or do I need to do more? If I put the hose back on and add a gallon of antifreeze I will have to let them run to mix it in with what's left in the engine? Thanks.
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hat will not drain the block. Run? Yes.
 
Thats how I do it. A gallon of straight (not that "50/50" diluted stuff) antifreeze thoroughly mixed throughout the cooling system on a small (less than 5 gallon capacity) tractor should get you good to well below freezing.
 
Might be better off completely draining them and refill with a 50/50 mix of coolant. That way you are freeze protected ang the additives will keep the systems protected from corrosion. 30 bucks worth of antifreeze is alot cheaper than a new block..
 
(quoted from post at 17:59:22 11/12/19) Might be better off completely draining them and refill with a 50/50 mix of coolant. That way you are freeze protected ang the additives will keep the systems protected from corrosion. 30 bucks worth of antifreeze is alot cheaper than a new block..
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Why not just buy an anti-freeze tester and use it? Most of the people on this board are taking care of several water-cooled engines. It's a sound investment to know what kind of protection you actually have.
 
Put a fresh -35?f blend back in. Don't screw around with your radiator or engine block. Nothing like a nice long CRACK in the side of your block in the spring. Nuff said.
 
Just got back in...... I'm wimpy!! 27 degrees with wind blowing......thinking insulation and heat is needed in the barn! Drained the A and B. Ford tested at 10-0 degrees. It's good for now. Other Ford and the cub also tested at around 0. I will pick up a couple gallons of antifreeze and distilled water for the A and B. When I took the bottom hose off lots of water ran out of both the radiator and the engine. No sense risking it.
 
Little unusual but looks like you are going to see weather there tonight like you have never experienced or at least colder than the last 50 years. Anyway you can get those drained down enough to add a gallon of straight antifreeze and then run them. I know you are conservative but $ 28.00 is not going to bust you. Sure will be set for the rest of this cold winter we are going to have.
 
It depends how cold you get down there. 50/50 mix is good to -34 . A gallon in each of those size tractors should get you well below freezing. Check cooling system capacity for each and use enough antifreeze to get you a bit below your worst cold temperatures. Here I have seen -26 to-30 a few times so we need 50/50 .
 
You were typing while I was, you should be 212 miles north. Around 13 and that strong North wind. Sounds like you got a plan on the tractors. Those testing 10 fh should be good where you are located.
 
Rarely get to zero here in central Al. If it gets that cold it recovers quick. Coldest I've seen it was below freezing for 6-7 days. 100 year freeze.......
 
You had to make me laugh. I must have nine or ten of those around and can NEVER
EVER find one when I need one. Two days ago. Found a brand new one at the flea
market for a whole BUCK! List is a lot more than that. The really nice Prestone
model. Now I might have eleven now.:)
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I know........the A and B were bought as non runners. Got them going this summer and never got the antifreeze in em. The Ford had a hole poked in radiator on a job and got filled with water and leak stop. According to the tester there was enough antifreeze in it to keep it good.
 
It only take a a couple of hour with ti to be below freezing to crack a block or a head or both. Drain them fill them with a mix of 50/50 antifreeze and water and fill them and fire them up till warm to make sure all the antifreeze and water mix or you can be in for trouble
 
There is no reason not to use antifreeze, just a lighter mixture, it prevents corrosion and prevents freezing.
 
Grandpa: Most tractors have a block drain as well as radiator drain. I would drain the water out and refill with an antifreeze mix. Wont go into the corrosion additive. If you drain them down and add it, the engine needs to run to "mix" it or you have water in block and antifreeze on top (not much good). I realize you are in a warm climate so I don't know the appropriate formula for you area, may be 50/50.
 
Use both the radiator drain and block drain. And both the Allis and Farmall use premix as they neither have a water pump and just pouring anti freeze in and adding water they will not get hot enough for that thermo cycle cooling system to get the antifreeze water mixture circulating enough to get it mixed, If you had radiator completely covered and let them idle for 12 hours it might, just might get it circulated enough to be mixed. So either buy premixed or get a big container, garbage can size and pour both into it and get you a big paddle and stir for several minutes to get completely mixed. Found that out 50 years ago with a no water pimp John Deere. Getting ready to go plow all day and that is more hot running time than you will ever get on your tractors. Anti freeze and water will not mix unless stired heavy. Some responders are not realizing you have no water pump to mix the antifreeze and water like an engine with a water pump will.
 
ya really need to also open the block drain as just pulling the hose does not get all the water out . It is also wise to run a 50-50 mix of antifreeze year round to help with croussion . Then when it get chilly out side you can sleep at nights with out worry.
 
Wasn?t sure about the Farmall A so I looked in the tractor parts section. They do sell a water pump for a Farmall A.
 

We've had a couple of non runners with water in the cooling system, block drains where stripped so not able to completely drain, draining the radiator lowers the coolant level down to the water pump inlet which is normally a few inches down from the top of the block.
We refilled the radiator with 100% antifreeze which allowed some to mix with the water in the block lowering the freezing point enough to prevent freezing issues down to the zero degree temps we had.
Not the correct way but good enough to protect a non runner.

Grandpa love: didn't hear from you and sold the cultivators to a gentleman in Il.
Was thinking if we'd made a deal you could have brought me some of grandma love's biscuits. :wink:
 
On here they say the A and C engine is the same and that the C does not have a water pump, only the Super C And I don't remember the AC combine engine that was a B engine ever having a water pump.
 
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