SVcummins

Well-known Member
Finally got one on each tractor now . Now I just
need to get the combination Rear work light with the
red back on it . And replace the light switch and
hook up the flashing light
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I don't even worry about them and we road equipment 10 mile one way. If they can't see that Stieger I doubt they will see that stupid sign.
 
svcummins ,
I find it ironic, you get accused of making a death machine. When you try to make things a little safer you are doing something wrong. Darned if you do and Darned if you don't.

Do we have some kind of target on our back?

I got my first SMV sign on my new tractor yesterday. I never drive on roads. If I have to go someplace, I use a trailer.

I think I've seen some new tractors and combines on road with just flashing lights instead of SMV sign.

So if you have flashing caution lights are SMV signs required?

My kawasaki mule only goes 25 mph. If we go for a ride on country back roads, I have a flashing caution light on top.

Still not dead yet, Haven't gotten ran over.
geo
 

Geo, I have to agree with you on this. Most of us don't always do things as safely as we know that we should but I think that most of us keep trying to get better. Fortunately there are very few people who will speak out against being safe. Even if one wants to disdain safety himself, he ought to give a thought for the families of those who could be injured as a result of his disdain. The way I see it the reason for SMV signs is to make it likely that a driver will "wake-up" to the fact that he is overtaking another vehicle, regardless of how big it may be, faster than he may have been expecting to. Two seconds of warning can make a life and death difference.
 
In VA any vehicle running less than 25MPH on a state road or even just crossing a public road from one side of a farm to another is required to have a SMV sign but that is it, no
flashing lights required in daylight hrs.Also no vehicle like your Mule,4 wheeler etc is allowed on public roads unless its for farm use and has a farm use tag on it.That is strictly enforced by the cops in my area.
 
Problem will come if you get hit and don't have the required SMV on the tractor,if someone slams you from behind you'll get the ticket (and the lawsuits) because you did not have the proper safety equipment to warn the driver that hit you.
 
The SMV signs are needed here too, neighbor got a ticket awhile back for not having one on his 8N. Question, what about the newer larger tractors that will go over 25 MPH? Do they, or do they not need the SMV? I've heard they get harassed when going over 25 WITH the sign..
 
Anymore it seems you see a lot of SMV signs that are faded. I'm sure that we have all seen the misuse of the signs when someone that doesn't farm have them as driveway markers. To me that is worse to use them in that situation as to not have one on equipment.
 
In NY there is a new law that requires any farm equipment on the road that goes over 25 mph needs another sign or decal that shows the maximum speed. I don?t have any thing here that would need the new sign except if I move hay wagons with the truck and I don?t exceed 25 mph much doing that. I have wondered what would happen if I bought something at an auction and towed it home with the truck and got stopped for not complying with the new law. I guess either drive slow or drive fast and take chances.
 
I heard in Kansas you had to be going over 45 MPH to not have one on equipment. Just heard that in this county anyway UTV are allowed on any county road and county blacktop, just not on state highways. Not just for farm use too.
 
IMHO SMV signs do very little to keep drivers from running into farm equipment. First off many are distributed with the evil cell phone, then there is the entertainment center, GPS, ETC. About 40 years ago a neighbor was run into by a driver while he was hauling a huge hay stack home. Neighbor was ticketed because he didn?t have a SMV. Guess the driver would have missed hitting the huge hay stack if the 1 foot SMV would have been displayed. Personally, I see the large farm equipment way before I see the little SMV. And as others have said, the miss use of the SMV is all over the place.
 
And here in Northern New York, there are tons if people using them as driveway markers. They kind of lose their meaning once that happens. So when you see one, is it a driveway? Is it a tractor? Or is it maybe an Amish buggy?
 
They are just a money maker for some. When they first were required I said if you met a tractor on the road you would know make, model and size of anything being pulled and wonder after you were past did it have that stupid SMV. Now that has changed with hundreds more model tractors tho.
 
Geo, couple post back you said you drove your tractor to the gas station to get gas, now you say you never drive on the road, witch is it just asking a question
 
Yes, SMV signs work! Thank you for using them!

SMV signs used as driveway markers are ILLEGAL. Report to highway patrol or sheriff's office!

Yes, SMV signs require replacement. I almost rear ended a grain wagon Friday night. Tractor had a flashing light but not visible from the rear. Tractor happened to be making a slight turn and I saw one or two flashes, but almost too late. SMV on the wagon was far beyond usable, and no other reflectors.
 
Troubles as others have said about drivers not watching the road and signs that are worn out. Sad to say, you could have strobes, twirlling flashing sparkles, and a naval signal man with big red flags, and you still stand the chance of some idiot hitting you
 
I have one on my 1963 truck- It may not be technically legal- but it helps (along with that hitch) to keep those distracted phone and text addicted "drivers" from ploughing into me. That and the ultra bright pulsating L.E.D. third brake light I added in the rear cross-member PTO tunnel!

No tickets yet, but with 4.70:1 gears and an anemic 2.25 litre diesel engine, it rarely gets over 40mph....
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Coming South on I-5 two weeks ago, right by the Bow Hill scales, I had a local ag dealer 1 ton pulling a fertilizer wagon, SMV attached, no license plate, no lights, ag tires, pass me. I was driving a semi, doing 60 mph, the legal speed for trucks. Small wonder no one respects the slow vehicle warning.
 
I have a SMV sign that I bolted an industrial magnet to. Works great for if I hook up to a piece of equipment that I need to put a SMV sign on. Just slap it on the back and when I'm done pull it right back off. The HD magnet makes sure that it doesn't fall or slide off (takes both hands to pull off).
 
(quoted from post at 06:38:30 11/02/19) I don't even worry about them and we road equipment 10 mile one way. If they can't see that Stieger I doubt they will see that stupid sign.

Contrary to what you think . That reflective flash from a clean bright SMV sign is what approaching drivers notice first .
You can t afford a SMV sign ?
 
I use SMV signs on my equipment, it's the law. The use of a slow moving vehicle sign on a fixed object such as a roadside mailbox or as a driveway marker, is prohibited if it can be seen from the road.
 
(quoted from post at 09:43:51 11/02/19) I use SMV signs on my equipment, it's the law. The use of a slow moving vehicle sign on a fixed object such as a roadside mailbox or as a driveway marker, is prohibited if it can be seen from the road.

Victor, where is it illegal to have one on a tree? I checked my state law and it has no mention of that.
 
You might be right but if someone hits your tractor from behind the SMV sign is the only one of the things you named that will keep you from getting a ticket and getting sued.
 
Smv signs do seem to work It?s amazing how far you Can see them at night I use smv signs and then reflective tape from harbor freight and then I also put those adhesive reflectors on each corner of the implement front and rear . I prefer moving equipment at night because I can see the people slowing down because they can see all the reflectors . A car passed me last year while moving the drill never even slowed down and ran another car off the road
 
That?s the big thing and I sure don?t want to get someone hurt over a ten dollar sign I was to cheap to buy
 
In the old days moving equipment people would slow down and move over for you now they?d just as soon run you over as touch the brakes . Cruise set on 70 mph head down on the phone and they are entitled to do that speed limit no matter what
 
A center triangle, at least 12-1/4 inches on each side of yellow-orange fluorescent material.
The device described shall be mounted on the rear of the vehicle, broad base down, not less than 3 feet nor more than 5 feet
above the ground and as near the center of the vehicle as possible. The use of this reflective device is restricted to use on
slow moving vehicles specified in this section, and use of such reflective device on any other type of vehicle or stationary
object is prohibited.
MCL 257.688
 
connor9988, I was thinking about making something like that. What is the rating on your magnet?
Thanks
 
I'm not sure what the official rating is on the magnet. It was one that I had lying around.

I will try to take a picture of it at some point. I used one of those plastic SMV signs and just bolted the magnet (think it came from local Menards or Theisens store) to it. I actually have several other SMV signs sitting in the shed I need to do the same to.
 
(quoted from post at 11:46:53 11/02/19) A center triangle, at least 12-1/4 inches on each side of yellow-orange fluorescent material.
The device described shall be mounted on the rear of the vehicle, broad base down, not less than 3 feet nor more than 5 feet
above the ground and as near the center of the vehicle as possible. The use of this reflective device is restricted to use on
slow moving vehicles specified in this section, and use of such reflective device on any other type of vehicle or stationary
object is prohibited.
MCL 257.688

That's nice Victor. For how many hundreds of miles outside of Michigan do the Michigan police go enforcing that law?
 
"witch is it just asking a question"
Which is it, old timers, part timers, senior moments or all the about.
You got me, I have a gas station 1/2 mile from my house up north. I didn't drive on the road, I drove on grass along side of road. I may have driven to gas station a hand full of times over the years.


I trailer tractor to mow grass at my other property across the river, I'll stop off at a gas station and fill up before returning home.

Planning on using the Kubota to replace Jubilee, mowing and snow removal.

I won't drive tractor on road to go 12 miles to mow. It me less time to mow 2 acrs than it does to load, unload, drive 12 miles to mow then load again, on the return trip home gas up, and finaly unload tractor and unhook implement trailer.
 
I see your point. Nobody around here enforces it anyway. There are SMV signs all over the place, mostly misused by Farmers on
a pole, at entry/exit roads to their fields with a "keep out" sign nailed under it.....
 
True enough. Those hi-way trucks with those super big fold down rear bumpers come to mind. What TOTALLY Ps me off are some of the stupid cops around here. When they pull somebody over and then they stop extra far over in the MIDDLE of the lane park their cop car. Two days ago the jerk was about three feet from the center line. I am not kidding !!!! Three vehicles had to screech to a halt, including me, and wait for the fastlane to clear and then we could go around. Idiot.
 
On a similar note, I have seen miniature SMV signs on farm equipment before. Are they legal? How do I get some? I cannot seem to find them online.
 

In Ontario it doesn t matter what it is if it exceeds 25MPH on the road, it must be plated .
Machine or vehicle with the SMV sign must be dedicated to farming , animal husbandry , construction , fishing . Can not be a car or truck just driven under 25MPH. Although as an example listed in the rules is a school bus with most of the seats and most of the rear body removed . It is acceptable if used to haul bales of hay or a gravity bin of grain .
 
George that?s why the ytdot and ytosha was formed because no matter what you do it won?t make em happy
 
(quoted from post at 17:49:25 11/02/19) On a similar note, I have seen miniature SMV signs on farm equipment before. Are they legal? How do I get some? I cannot seem to find them online.

connor, I'll bet that you saw reflectors. Google 6 inch triangular reflector.
 
Traditional Farmer ,
You just proved a good point, What is legal in my county isn't legal in your county.
Even if someone is breaking a law, many cops only enforce some lawn and ingore other laws unless someone compains. ATV's and side by sides are legal on county roads.

Ex, open fires are illegal in town. In the county no big deal unless someone complains or think it could cause their place to burn down. Then fire department will put your fire out.

I've never heard of anyone in my county ever get a ticket for not having a SMV on farm equipment.
The cops have bigger fish to fry.

No cop has ever stopped me for driving on the grass next to road. I haven't been stopped for having expired plates. I discovered my plates had expired on 07-20-19. I went online and renewed tags. Haven't gotten them in the mail yet. If I do get stopped I can show cop on my smart phone I'm good. Again, I think cops have bigger fish to fry.

I don't get why so many on YT are so picky about little things like driving on grass or the color of a gas can. Darned if you do something and darned if you don't.
 
George I just use an empty 5 gallon hydraulic bucket to carry diesel . Still alive still out of jail go figure
 
in my county you wont get a ticket for no Smv, but the last piece of equipment your pullin better have flashing lights on it or you will get a ticket
 
I saw a church use the sign to mark the driveway and they rotated it 180 making the point go down instead of up.
 
Same in Ontario . The highway traffic act specify states that SMV signs are for slow vehicles . Specific examples are listed of what not to do such as fastening SMV to mailboxes which is prohibited.
 
(quoted from post at 21:41:30 11/02/19) True enough. Those hi-way trucks with those super big fold down rear bumpers come to mind. What TOTALLY Ps me off are some of the stupid cops around here. When they pull somebody over and then they stop extra far over in the MIDDLE of the lane park their cop car. Two days ago the jerk was about three feet from the center line. I am not kidding !!!! Three vehicles had to screech to a halt, including me, and wait for the fastlane to clear and then we could go around. Idiot.

Jeff, people (including stupid cops) need to use some common sense, but I spent 20 plus years as a stupid cop and have had numerous very close calls with brilliant non-stupid cops that apparently couldn't see all the flashing lights on the Troop car. I had one lady hit the notebook hanging out of my rear pants pocket because she wasn't going to cross the center line for any reason I suppose. It's getting to be a matter of survival. You think the same brilliant non-stupid cops that rear end cars in traffic because they can't put the cell phone down are going to bother moving over unless forced to?
 
Most of the roads 50 is top safe speed on with some even less. Roads of over 55 farm equipment is not allowed on.
 
(quoted from post at 06:58:28 11/05/19) Most of the roads 50 is top safe speed on with some even less. Roads of over 55 farm equipment is not allowed on.

Leroy, that is unless you check with your state DOT. When I needed to get an over-width mower home from 150 miles away I called the state DOT instead of YTDOT. They told me that I needed an over-width permit for my farm equipment which they mailed to me along with the route that I had to take which was on the interstate. They find that there are a lot less wrecks and people killed when getting by an over-width load when it is on one way road with big breakdown lanes.
 

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