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A version of this for my small bale loading program
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This was a common practice with binders as it reduced the manpower required from two to one person. The steering wheel of the tractor is removed and a long shaft is fitted that relocates the wheel to the binder seat and ropes control the clutch. A guy in our club demonstrates a system like this at our show. To ensure safety when operating in this environment he rigs up an ignition kill switch at the binder seat - I don't know if that would have been part of the original setup or not.
 
Guess one would need a rope to pull on clutch lever too. Still how would get tractor moving and then get back to stearing wheel?

Death machine.
 
There was a machine drive offered by most MFG's of the day Very common,, and back then folks had common sense, the rope for the clutch would be a continuations rope, pull one side to engage the clutch one side released it, to shift gears you got off and did it,, in those days when you put a tractor in gear it normally stayed int hat gear until you were done with the field, just because you cant see how well it worked does not mean it did not. This was also a way to get the folks who farmed with horses all their lives to "Trust" a tractor and feel more at "Home" running one at first. Case and other offered the systems for many implements and wagons. It would be too much for most today to even attempt running one I fear
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(quoted from post at 04:00:41 10/29/19) Ropes for the clutch?how do you shift gears?
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You get off, walk up, and shift into whatever gear you want. It's most likely an over center hand clutch so when the lever's pulled the clutch is disengaged.

Not much shifting going on.
 

Think of it in terms of a team of horses. Horses could get spooked, stung by bees etc. Lots of ways to get hurt back then.
 
Old ideas die hard!

I've heard the early automobiles came with warnings that the vehicle didn't respond to verbal commands, could not find it's way home on it's own, and had to be stopped and steered by the driver as it could not see objects in it's way.

That looks dangerous, but take in consideration, how much control over a horse does the driver ultimately have? At least the tractor is not afraid of snakes or barking dogs!
 
Neighbor had a set up like that with a Farmall C. Working fine until the front end dropped in a wash out & broke the narrow front off.
 
Dad had that set up with the H Farmall and binder for one year. Older brother was in Navy and he thought I was too young to drive. The steering wheel is still hanging in the old shed.
 
My dad had one of those setups on a Fordson tractor with a John Deere binder similar to the one in the picture.

It worked good, except for the time one of the steering ropes broke and the whole thing went around in circles til he jumped off the binder and ran up and stopped the tractor.

By then, my sister and I were big enough to ride the binder.
 
It is a death machine ! They guy on the binder has a steering wheel and some linkages to be able to run the tractor while sitting on the binder
 
Mom told me my grandmother was learning to drive the model T Ford. She came to a gate and told the T to whoa. She drove through the gate. Stan
 
Thanks for posting those pictures Case Nutty. I've never seen that option on anything but the binder like SV posted. The grader part makes a lot of since though. The wagon part I'm not to sure about though. haha
 
Here is my Dad's remote control for baling hay with a 1946 JD A and a JD 116W when he could not find someone to drive on the baler. After he died I used it a couple of times. It wasn't too bad, but having a driver was better.
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We had a better version of this - a Bisset semi-mounted binder, where you could reach the binder controls from the tractor seat, out the back window. Found this video (not mine) of how this worked. A bit safer than driving the tractor from sitting on the binder!
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During WW2 many farmers here had tractors with 'extension steering' plus clutch rope to drive pto combines (we called them headers). Meant that harvesting went from 2 to 1 person operation. Still a lot of work involved in handling bagged grain during the harvest. My dad was granted leave from the army one harvest to come home to do the harvest as manpower was so short.

Next innovation was hydraulic lift on pto header so tractor driver could lift header comb from the tractor. That was much safer. Next came many different self propelled headers (combines), and they have got larger and larger. Dad's header had 10 foot cut and ran at 2 miles an hour. We now use 42 foot cut running at 10 miles an hour.
 
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