tolerance of others and what to read or not

wilson ind

Well-known Member
Thankfully we most all live in a country where freedom of speech is not only allowed but considered a right. Also we have a right to not read a post that to a person seems ridiculous. Rather than criticize I try to just move on to another post. I have been guilty so to speak of correcting when I thought perhaps they did not know the proper term for an item. I really did at one time think Bota was a name for a grey market tractor. I recall a fellow in another continent used the term Dizzy.It took me a while to figure out what he meant. I posted to ask him just what a dizzy was. No disrespect to him or his country , I just never hard that term. I have come to realize that my Asperger syndrome makes it hard to tell what someone means when using slang. However some key words that when appearing in a post I stop reading and move on. Some of the words are chebby ,dorf, mater, tater, now bota, jonny popper, farmalite, ollie and cockshoot, minnie mo. There are others. I suppose the posters have every right to disrespect the engineers, sales people and other hard workers making these machines. However it is my right to not communicate or consider people so speaking. I do not consider myself cantankerous, or difficult. I suppose any replies to this post will be interesting at least. I recall some time back I was banned from posting for a time for a satire post that most could see the joke so to speak however a few took it as a true opinion and protested even to the point the management of this fine site did not see the satire. This post is NOT meant to be rude to anybody. To sum up the idea of this post is IF YOU DO NOT agree with some one and their words or opinion just move on. We can agree to not agree . Organic farming is a right of some farmers as well as regular farmers. Use of Roundup another thing all have their right to use or not use. People living in California is another topic that is often slammed, I would not live the large cities . However the fine farmers growing our produce are not weird . Seems that state is unduly criticized. Lets just live and let live!!
 
As part of my work, I get to answer calls from all over North America. Makes for some interesting conversations sometimes.
 
I was typing a reply, but I got,lost myself in what I was saying! Ha ha.

Yup, meeting and making friends is different online than in real life, and it takes some getting used to.

I bet a lot of folk come on line when they are ticked or disappointed in something around them; coming here is an escape from that frustration, but we don?t realize we bring the frustration with us.

People have different levels of appreciating humor, and so,e don?t get humor at all. Some folk are just leg pullers and wise crackers and want to get the other persons goat. That makes for difficult threads and topics, and I think runs a lot of people off. Twisted humor, or bluffing others.

Myself, I wouldn?t think twice about saying Johnny Popper, I had cartoon books back when I was 4 that referred to John Deere?s as that, never would have thought of that as any type of insult to anyone, it?s an affectionate name that JD owners around me use. Am I wrong, are you wrong, I donno? Don?t think either of us is wrong, just never would have thought Johnny Popper as bothering anyone, I learned something new I guess.

Paul
 
I'm the first to admit I'm too much of a smart Alec sometimes, but if someone puts me down over it, I shrug it off.

I learned not to hold a grudge back in the 1970's when I was Air Cargo Manager for a large printing plant. When you have a couple dozen national magazines working against publication deadlines, things can get awfully tense. We department heads would yell and b***h at each other and 20 minutes later go have coffee together.

I really appreciated the advice I got a couple of weeks ago when I needed to replace the PTO shaft in my D19 Allis, and I thanked the ones who gave me the advice.
 
If Johnny popper offended anyone it sure wasn?t the folks at Deere and company .
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SV I disagree with you. A gray market machine is one from a foreign country that was never meant to be imported. I worked at a JD dealer and had a customer that called and had lost the key for a 310. We had the industrial line and had the key in stock. He had someone pick it up but then he called me and said it wasn't close. It was an ag 310 meant for other countries and made it down from Canada. The key was in Mpls,Mn. warehouse and was round and about 2 inches long with a tang on the end and notches in it. The tang was for the lights. One switch for everything.
 
Goose,
Many people seem to enjoy butchering the English language but one word that I find very offensive is when someone is referred to as a cityidiot. Will Rogers always said everyone is ignorant, just in different subjects. That person who was criticized for not knowing how to properly change the oil in a tractor may be the person that someday may put a quadruple bypass in your heart.
 
It's often difficult to perceive nuances in online language since we only get to read and we do not have the benefit of voice tone, inflection or body language to help differentiate when someone is being serious or sarcastic or facetious. Asperger's makes it doubly difficult. I have a relative with Asperger's so I understand completely what you mean.

I've seen misunderstandings turn into flame wars since the mid 90's when I stumbled into my first online forum.

I agree that the best policy if something seems off or someone says something offensive is to keep on cruising.
 
I don't know about the not cantankerous part. I think most of us here are old enough to be that way whether we admit it or not.

Sorry if our southern slang terms offend you. It's just the way we grew up and while we can be articulate like our northern friends we choose to just be ourselves.

Evidently you have never been to the johnnypopper website or you would know it is in no way derrogatory. I don't use the term unless referring to the website but I take no offense if others do.

Like you said if someone or something you don't care for shows up just move on. That's what I do.
 
Truckers have a slang name for all makes of trucks rather the make the speaker is driving. They also have slang names for the cargo and types of cargo. I think they are amusing
 
I'm not so sure that all the names are such an insult as they are a endearing reference to some of the manufacturing. Like my grandpa always called his D-4 cat the (old yellow devil). He plowed and worked ground with that tractor. His H never was hooked to a plow all it's life.
As for slang I don't believe that most of the names were meant to be derogatory to the manufacturer.
 
I think the debate on Roundup will never stop.I remember when our planes would return to the ship.Some times they smelled odd.Like the cotton spray used on the fields at home. But we were told not to worry about it.So now many of us are crippled up or dying/dead from problems the VA says we don't have.
 
Around here, the local coffee shop verbiage goes with red this and green that, blue what???? And so on. I use acronyms myself and it's no big deal. I think they use them to separate themselves from the new comers that are arriving almost daily around here and don't catch onto the meaning of the referral.
 
I think the Snowflake syndrome is spreading from the young folks to the population in general.You mention organic farming probably no other subject here has had more derogatory things said about it than organic farming and the people that practice it and when it happens it'll get a strong defense from me. Roundup is another Hot Button issue I have no problem with people wanting to use it but when it starts showing up in the water and much of the food we eat then it becomes an issue for me to discuss.BTW I couldn't care less how many posters disagree with me or what they think of my opinions they are my own honest opinions and am ready to debate with vigor all comers and I won't run off and have a Pouting Timeout when the going gets tough either.I'm immune to the Snowflake Virus.(LOL)
 

I do not mind some slang but I will stop reading a post immediatelty when things are said, or spelled, in such as way as to make farmers look dumb or stupid (yes, there is a difference). I think farming requires a lot of sense, knowledge, and skill and I do not appreciate folks making farmers look ridiculous. "Mater" and "tater" are prime examples of words that make the writer look uneducated and I will not contiune reading a post containing either.
 
I seem to remember that someone made a post explaining the "terms" used on this site. It was a great read. I tried to find it in the archives but could not find it. joe
 
It a neat book the pictures in it are really nice quality seems like no matter how many books you have there?s always something in another one you haven?t seen before
 
(quoted from post at 23:03:10 10/13/19) Goose,
Many people seem to enjoy butchering the English language but one word that I find very offensive is when someone is referred to as a cityidiot. Will Rogers always said everyone is ignorant, just in different subjects. That person who was criticized for not knowing how to properly change the oil in a tractor may be the person that someday may put a quadruple bypass in your heart.

The term cityidiot is by no means intended to be a generic one size fits all.

There are many who relocate to a rural setting and blend in just fine regardless of their intelligence level or background.

Then there are those who like others at the start know nothing and refuse to learn and accept the ways of rural living, these are the ones that have earned the term Cityidiot.

If someone is ignorant about how something works or should be done then come on over and ask questions, most are glad to share knowledge and lend a hand.

Show up unannounced and set your kids on their quads or dirt bikes loose in my pasture.
Let your mindless dogs run all over and harass my livestock.
Complain to everyone who will listen that something must be done about;
-the smell when I spread manure
-the dust from the grain trucks on the road
-the sounds animals make
-the noise from equipment during harvest
the list goes on and on

If a person fits into the above then really the term cityidiot is probably one of the nicest things they could be called.
 
AND I have made this statement a dozen times on here, you and I are about the most opposite two on this board. You hate Kubotas I love them , You do not like round up and I probably spray over a thousand gallons a year. BUT YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN AND TALK for hours because I appreciate your steadfast stand on the issues you believe in. Like the old song says "You got to stand for something" . Life goes on and it is easy to just not read something on here if it does not suit ones thinking.
 
Same for me, and I don't really hate Kubotas but have been around some that really were terrible deals for the owners of them.For me to really
hate them it'd have to be MY money that was burned through(LOL)Actually I know of some horror stories about the electronics on about every brand being
sold new these days.Local JD owner just spent over $1500 on 2 service calls on his tractor to finally find out a loose ground screw was the problem.
Fortunately I have enough good condition older machines to carry me thru any farming I still want to do.
 
My favorite book as a wee one was the John Deere corn picker children?s book. I ?read? that a million times I bet. The shiny new smiling picker replaced the sad frowning old picker....

Funny, that around here New Idea pickers were/ are much more common, and I only have JD planter and swather. Everything else is blue or red or a different shade of green.

I sure like your pics and stories about your green tractors and how you use them, never really got caught up in the color wars or which pickup is better, I look at all that as funny and not important.

Paul
 
been farming/selling, Operating and repairing equipment all my life, ag and construction, I call potatoes taters all the time guess in your eyes that makes me look stupid or below you,, good to know,, by the way I got A's and B's in school and never did home work or studied for tests,, heck I slept through my history classes and still got A's,, yup I must be some kind of special stupid alright,, just a dumb long haired hippie that has made his way on his own since age 15
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Paul I bought those books for my nephew I don?t know what ever happened to them I really liked the drawings as well . Glad you like the pictures I post
 
I should become an organic farmer I could probably make a little more with the size of my operation but I don?t believe in it and I don?t support it so I?m not going to do it . Can?t blame a guy that wants to though
 
Tom the person who doesn?t know how to change oil isn?t a citiot . For the definition of a citiot see above
 

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