Over 100 Indiana farmers prepare for hemp harvest

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

As a CBD user I find this article to be very interesting.
CBD isn't cheap, about $1.00 for a 10 mg.
CBD is an alternative way of controlling pain. No way to become addicted. No way to overdose.
Because there is no government oversite, some places are selling hemp oil which doesn't have any CBD.
As I recently posted, a DOT employee used CBD oil. He used a DOT test kit and tested positive for marijuana. He didn't lose his job. Just stopped using CBD. He doesn't like the idea of being in pain and not being able to use CBD. So if you are a trucker, refuse a DOT test, request a blood draw which might distinguish the difference between hemp oil and THC.

FDA has approved using CBD to treat Epilepsy.

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CBD Holds Promise as Child Epilepsy Treatment, Studies Find. ?In the subsequent periods, which are very encouraging, 9 percent of all patients and 13 percent of those with Dravet Syndrome epilepsy were seizure-free,? Dr. Orrin Devinsky, the study?s lead author and a neurologist at the New York University Langone Medical Center, told NPR.
Are there any YT Farmers growing HEMP?
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john in la · Sep 18, 2019

I think you are confusing a Indiana DOT worker; Dept of Transportation road crew worker with a over the road driver that has to follow federal DOT rules. Or maybe you are purposely trying to confuse the two for dramatization.

4520BW · Sep 18, 2019

There are several farmers around me growing it, one is just a half mile south of me. They have cut part of the field and it laying on the ground for a week now. On a hot day with a south wind I can smell it!

jm. · Sep 18, 2019

Evidently Indiana is way behind Tennessee , within the one county I live in over 2,300 acres growing and state wide it is unbelievable, big money now but predictions are the bubble is going to burst. More growing it than the market can stand.

caterpillar guy · Sep 18, 2019

If you get your oil from a less than reputable distributor that can happen. If it is made from Hemp it should have no THC as opposed to the Marijuana oil which will have the THC in it.

Dachshund · Sep 18, 2019

Was told two weeks ago that neither CBD nor Hemp Oil is approved by the VA...?..

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

INDOT worker works at scale house inspecting semis. Learned this morning he was using just hemp oil not CBD and tested positive for THC.
So he thinks INDOT test is flawed.
He stopped using hemp oil

Bret4207 · Sep 18, 2019

With all due respect George, you're smearing something untested, unregulated and made who knows where or by whom on your body. It helps it seems. There used to be a lot of patent "medicines" that helped too- they were mostly alcohol or had cocaine, morphine or other drugs in them. Some had high levels of lead or mercury. If it works for you and you trust it, fine. For me, no way.

As far as the hemp fad, that's all it is. If there was a market it would have been filled by offshore suppliers decades back. It's the ostrich egg and emus ranch bubble of today.

john in la · Sep 18, 2019

So he was a state employee of the Indiana dept of transportation not a truck driver that goes under federal DOT laws.

No I do not believe the test was flawed.
He is a state employee that took a drug test and failed.

To include the letters DOT and insinuate he goes under federal DOT laws that apply to truck driver; railroad engineers; and pilots is where the flaw comes in.

As a truck driver you can not refuse to test.
Even if you pass the drug test just having a bottle of CBD or hemp oil in the truck is grounds for a possession charge.
If you fail the drug test your employer can not keep you on just by you agreeing to stop using the CBD.
You are fired no if ands or buts about it.

Bob · Sep 18, 2019

(quoted from post at 07:57:23 09/18/19)

With all due respect George, you're smearing something untested, unregulated and made who knows where or by whom on your body. It helps it seems. There used to be a lot of patent "medicines" that helped too- they were mostly alcohol or had cocaine, morphine or other drugs in them. Some had high levels of lead or mercury. If it works for you and you trust it, fine. For me, no way.

As far as the hemp fad, that's all it is. If there was a market it would have been filled by offshore suppliers decades back. It's the ostrich egg and emus ranch bubble of today.

:wink: :wink: :wink:

grayrider · Sep 18, 2019

If I were to use any of the cream or oils I would lose my job immediately, our safety coordinator has made it very clear that it will show up in our random drug tests. I?m tested under DOT guidelines as I work with a large gas utility company.

Traditional Farmer · Sep 18, 2019

The folks in the gov't are always the last the catch on about most anything.What a country full of Sheep that needs the Gov't to OK everything. Dumbing down of America I guess.
A fad? That's what everyone told me about meat goats over 20 years ago they are bringing more the 2X what cattle bring today.Dairy farming must have been a fad they are going broke in droves these days.

Adirondack case guy · Sep 18, 2019

Just look how long it took people to realize the negatives of E-cigarettes'---------
Loren

4play · Sep 18, 2019

Many tests/regulations have a pass or fail at +0%, meaning even if you have a very small trace of THC, you are still positive, or the test fails the same as it would for an everyday user.

CBD only products are supposed to have no more than 0.03, if someone consumes a LOT of CBD products, they could still test positive. The CBD market is essentially unregulated, they might claim a certain level or % of something but they may not be accurate either.

Commercial Farmer · Sep 18, 2019

Plenty of dairy farmers haven?t blinked or broke a sweat yet. I?m one of them.

sourgum · Sep 18, 2019

Hemp is something you would lock in your market for the crop before you even plant the seed. Kentucky supposedly issued permits for producers to plant 12,000 acres of industrial hemp in 2019 up from 6700 acres last year. With this yrs weather , unlikely that they got all those acres planted. 60 hemp processing plants are in Kentucky to make it marketable. There is a huge untapped demand for hemp derived CBD oils and other products. In 2019 Indiana has 100 growers of regulated hemp plots for research purposes since USDA legalized hemp as a crop. But maybe one or two processors of hemp exist in Indiana. Hemp is replacing tobacco as a niche crop in Kentucky. If demand continues industrial hemp production will keep growing and production will spread. Kentucky appears to be leading the nation in industrial hemp production & marketing at the moment.

paul · Sep 18, 2019

Local restaurant owner talked up the merits of hemp oil, fella tried it because it sounded good. Lost his CDL for 6 months I think it was, needs to follow extra testing and programs now. He was/ is a truck driver, no one thought that through.....

Is what it is.

It gets confusing who is growing what any more.

There is medicinal which is marijuana, very strict toy controlled.

There is oil, and seeds, and fiber from the hemp.

Seed harvest seems pretty straight forward. Tough to cut and dry but would be common practice for a farmer.

But it?s confusing where they want to harvest the bud or blossom, that seems like it is either very labor intensive hard picking to get the best quality, or you cut off the plant tops and harvest everything to be sorted out later as a bigger volume lower labor, but much lower value bud harvest?

Then there is the fiber crop, which everyone talks about but it,is a low value, hardly any real market for it yet, crop, would cost more to transport then to use these days so far? Obviously fairly easy to harvest if you can get it dry but who really wants it?

It appears there are far more growers trying it than there are markets for any of the products at this point in time, if the oil price drops rapidly from over supply it going to be really ugly for everyone involved.

I really haven?t ever gotten an answer as to what really is really used for what product, as to the seeds and buds and the different ways they are harvested.

In fact there seems more confusion than fact on the whole hemp deal.

I would enjoy a new crop out there in the rotation even if I don?t personally grow it, but there seems to be a lot of risk of this market crashing and a lot of lost money at this time.

So very many druggie type folks are behind it for whatever reason that is kind of a turn off, even tho I fully realize the actual hemp products are not supposed to have more than a hint of the drug in them.

Kinda fun to be on the sidelines and watch all this unfold.

I?m still curious on a real answer as to what part of the plant is actually harvested for what end product. Especially between seeds and buds and hand harvesting vs mechanical harvesting. It seems to me a lot of folk are confused on all that.

Paul

sourgum · Sep 18, 2019

My number of acres of hemp production in KY were incorrect - estimates are 50,000 permitted acres of production in KY in 2019, likely not all got planted. Also there are estimates of 120 hemp processing plants just in the state of KY. That crop is taking off like a rocket down there.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

Paul,
In fact there seems more confusion than fact on the whole hemp deal.

I agree, a lot of confusion. Here is a case where It's legal to grow in all 50 states at Federal level.

Indiana made CBD hemp oil more than a year ago. Grower still have to get permits to grow it. Not sure, I'm guessing the processing of the oil is also state regulated.

Many states, Including Illinois has made marijuana legal. Still not legal at Federal level..

Wal mart sells 8 oz of hemp oil (no CBD or THC) for $20 in their as seen on TV isle. Yet truckers that are tested by INDOT are showing positive for marijuana.

So either hemp oil has THC or there's something wrong with the test.

I don't think I'll buy anymore CBD. The cheaper hemp oil seems to be working better.

Glad I don't have to pass a drug test. If for some reason a cop wanted me to do a roadside THC test, I would refuse. IF push came to shove, I would request a blood test.

Caution: Like marijuana, Hemp is Not legal in all 50 states.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

From what little I know, I saw on TV where you don't plant seeds, you buy starts. The starts are grown from seeds in a greenhouse. The state regulates that part too.

Cousin sells crop insurance. He said they had to get educated on growing Hemp so he could sell farmers crop insurance.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

From what little I know, I saw on TV where you don't plant seeds, you buy starts. The starts are grown from seeds in a greenhouse. The state regulates that part too.

Cousin sells crop insurance. He said they had to get educated on growing Hemp so he could sell farmers crop insurance.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

Bret,
Like Willie's song, I'm still not dead yet. Haven't had any side
effects like I have with most Rx drugs which are FDA approved.
Add to that I wouldn't be using hemp if it were not legal in Indiana.

The FDA has signed off saying Hemp oil is a food supplement.

Yes ? CBD oil obtained from hemp is legal, because the FDA considers
hemp-derived cannabinoids to be food-based products, so their
importation and consumption is not restricted. However, it is not legal
to grow hemp in most of the US states.

How many drugs are approved by FDA that actually kill people, OD?

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

John, I'm not sure if INDOT uses Federal DOT test kits. I was mistaken when I said DOT worker. Should have said INDOT.

The INDOT worker works at weigh station on I70.

oldtanker · Sep 18, 2019

(quoted from post at 04:57:10 09/18/19) Evidently Indiana is way behind Tennessee , within the one county I live in over 2,300 acres growing and state wide it is unbelievable, big money now but predictions are the bubble is going to burst. More growing it than the market can stand.

Do you understand everything that can be made from hemp? Or for that matter that we kinda put the hemp industry out of business so Dupont could sell nylon?

Beside oil hemp makes excellent clothing, excellent paper when pulped for that along with rope. And hemp oil can be used for bio diesel. In fact hemp can produce more oil for BIO per acre than Soybeans. So you can do a lot more with it than make some cure all ointment.

When Dupont and some other wealthy individuals who had invested in forest land lobbied our politicians of that day they demonized marijuana. Dupont like I said because they had invented nylon and the (mostly newspaper owners) folks who bought land with the plan on harvesting those forests to turn into pulp for paper lobbied the halls of congress. It was so bad that when WWII broke out the government had to issue permits to grow hemp because the Navy had to have ropes for boarding nets and mooring that didn't stretch like nylon did and they quickly ran out of rope.

And of course the cotton growers were against it as well as the wool producers too.

Kinda interesting what can be done with hemp. When I first heard that farmers in some places were pushing to legalize raising hemp I looked into it. Not to grow it but just because I was interested. I quickly changed my mind about the validity of growing hemp.

This is kinda like the "free range/cage free/grass fed ECT, ECT" movement. Yea, started as a fad. Then it moved into a niche market and now it's becoming more mainstream every day.

Who knows. The hemp thing may very well fail. But then again it may be an up and coming thing. By the way, hows that GMO corn bean thing working out?

Rick

oldtanker · Sep 18, 2019

(quoted from post at 10:21:38 09/18/19) John, I'm not sure if INDOT uses Federal DOT test kits. I was mistaken when I said DOT worker. Should have said INDOT.

The INDOT worker works at weigh station on I70.

And you saw these test results? This guy isn't and anti drug person trying to scare people away from it? Just asking???

Rick

bcdave · Sep 18, 2019

I have been using 1 to 1 oil since June. That is equal parts THC and CBD. I have glaucoma and macular degeneration. My eye sight is improving slightly and my arthritis pain is totally gone. It is amazing not using other pain meds for sleep. I have talked to others who have got rid of many ailments including cancer and diabetes.
It is legal in Canada and I am not worried about becoming addicted testing with the amount I take.
Dave

4520BW · Sep 18, 2019

The large field close to me was planted with a no till drill, the other farmer I know planted a smaller plot with starts. A local company is starting to build a CBD oil processing facility.

MARK ROBKE · Sep 18, 2019

I am growing CBD hemp here in KY. One acre. Our processor wanted us to grow it under plastic mulch, with drip tape irrigation. He provided clones(all female), the mulch layer and water wheel setter/transplanter. He wanted experienced tobacco growers, able/experienced with the hand labor that comes with tobacco. And able to spend a lot of time with the crop. We are going to harvest by hand and hang/house it like tobacco. And hand strip it. No chemicals for weeds at all-trying to stay organic. We are shooting for 11% or higher CBD content, with less than .3% THC. 27.7% less than marijuana. Hemp at less than 10% CBD is low quality, and hard/less profitable to extract the CBD. I do not see how anyone could raise it for CBD in a large acreage such as the 450 mentioned. Male plants have to be destroyed so they do not pollinate the females-where the bud(which contains the CBD) comes from. We also don't want seeds either.
As far as does CBD work? YES IT DOES!! I take it daily, and it helped with all my aches and pains, and the arthritis in my hand. I would dread going back to taking all the pain meds(over the counter) that I used to take, which did not help enough. Plus I can take them and CBD and get relief when needed, after overdoing it. Mark.

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 18, 2019

Can any of you with positive results recommend a specific brand of CBD or hemp product? As stated, there being no regulation on it, the contents of the products out there vary wildly. You don't know if you're buying used transmission fluid or quality CBD oil.

It amazes me how people just can't get the differentiation between hemp and marijuana through their thick skulls. It amazes me how people still think "Reefer Madness" reflects the reality of marijuana use.

oldtanker · Sep 18, 2019

Anyone besides me ever been around "Kansas Killer Weed". I guess hemp was grown around the Ft Riley KS area during WWII. And of course some of it pollinated and went to seed. According the the dope heads it was harsh to smoke and had a very low THC content. But it was growing everywhere in the training area of Ft Riley and surrounding area public lands in 74/75/76. Stuff would grow 8-10 feet. Our officers were not amused at all when we were told to to use local vegetation to camouflage our tanks...........you see where this is going? Nope not amused at all by the moving mound that looked suspiciously like marijuana........:lol: They must of killed most of it off. My last hitch there in the the 90's did see any.

Rick

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

Rick,
My dad was a farmer and came from a long line of farmers. He said during
WW2 farmers in N Indiana grew hemp for the war effort. Not sure if it was
for rope or cloth.
The wild stuff, ditch weed. No THC or very little.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

Mark,
Thank for your post. I learned a lot. Didn't know about male and female plants.

Any idea why just hemp oil, hempvana from walmart, seems to work better than the expensive CBD I get off internet? I'm thinking some stuff off internet may be fake stuff, ripping off people.

What brand do you use?

tlock0331 · Sep 18, 2019

(quoted from post at 15:10:09 09/18/19)

Any idea why just hemp oil, hempvana from walmart, seems to work better than the expensive CBD I get off internet? I'm thinking some stuff off internet may be fake stuff, ripping off people.

cause it was made in china??

HAHAHAHAH!

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

I've tried different brands of CBD ois
off internet. EXPENSIVE. I bought first
bottle from Fresh time. Even more
expensive.

Sunday I went to Walmart and bought this
bottle 8 oz for $20. It was in the as
seen a TV isle. I drink it and rub it all
over right shoulder, arm and hand. I
think it's better than any CBD OIL I've
tried.

No idea if you'll pass a drug test.
Might have to study all night if you have
to pass a test.

john in la · Sep 18, 2019

[b:654c4848f0]So either hemp oil has THC or there's something wrong with the test[/b:654c4848f0]

There are things in hemp that will trigger a drug test other than THC.

CBN is one of them.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

Is THC or CBD addictive?

Is it true in Canada, everything is government controlled from the growing, distributing, and selling. It requires a Dr Prescription to get it.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 18, 2019

CBN is a non-intoxicating compound that is best known as the cannabinoid created when THC ages. For that reason, it?s usually present in high amounts in older cannabis. While this might be a turn-off for some, others seek out older cannabis just to enjoy the effects of CBN.

Isn't pure hemp oil free of CBD and THC?

Vicinalvictor · Sep 18, 2019

From what I understand, organic is the best option because at this time, nothing is labeled for Hemp when it comes to spraying it.

MARK ROBKE · Sep 18, 2019

Our processor is Acela CBD, based in Maysville, Ky., which is who I bought my last few bottles. As they are a new company start up, they have just started actual processing. Before that I bought from Bluegrass Hemp Oil -BHO- based in Lexington, KY. Both companies have websites, but I believe you can only order on line from BHO. Acela CBD is selling in all the local stores, and also at their plant. I use the extra strength because I tried the regular strength which did not help as much.
As far as why the hemp oil helped more, I can not say. I do know that you should read the label for amount of CBD in milligrams(mg). BHO has a 4oz bottle with 2950mg, and Acela CBD has 2oz bottle with 3000mg. Both companies have lower dose bottles, but the higher dose is what I use. I think when the FDA gets involved, the labels will be more consistent across the board. I was told that having THC helps the CBD to work better in your brain's pain receptors.
My friend, former boss, started taking it, and the change/improvement was very noticeable. His results convinced me to try it, AND IT WORKS. I can sleep most of the night, before aches and pains wake me. My left hand can grip things without aching, my legs and feet quit hurting after a days work. My back still hurts, but I lower discs that keep slipping and popping, so as long as I watch what and how I lift and move, it is fair to ok. BUT THE CBD HELPS THIS ALSO. At bedtime, I take my final dose of CBD, and 2 Aleve. By themselves, neither helps enough to sleep, but combined they help a lot. Mark.

ditchwitch · Sep 18, 2019

Ive been to Ft Riley quail hunting about 2 years ago didnt see any weed growing or anything that looked like it. Plenty of quail just no weed

The Famous Grouse · Sep 18, 2019

(quoted from post at 14:53:26 09/18/19) Rick,
My dad was a farmer and came from a long line of farmers. He said during
WW2 farmers in N Indiana grew hemp for the war effort. Not sure if it was
for rope or cloth.

The vast majority of it was for rope. The use of synthetic fibers was in its infancy and production of synthetics was directed at uses where it was a necessity.

Every ship that went to sea had thousands of feet of hemp rope on board. That s a lot of acres of hemp.

Grouse

bcdave · Sep 18, 2019

THC is addictive if taken in large quantities for a long period. I feel no affect from the amount of oil I take.
It is legal in Canada and growers, processors and sellers have to be licensed but there is still a black market. I buy mine online from Cannabis BC and the Government liquor store so I hope the product is as stated. You no longer need a Dr Prescription. I order it and it arrives in three days in the mail.
Dave

dr sportster · Sep 19, 2019

"So if you are a trucker refuse the DOT test, request a blood draw." It won't work like that . If the plan is for you to pee in the cup that is what they will test. They call all the shots . You are giving up two constitutional rights both 4th and 5 amendment are violated. You have no choice other than be dismissed.

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