New rules for slow moving equipment for Bro

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Holy smokes! And I thought I was the oldest looking Trooper there'd ever been! Wonder how long it will take the brass to find that and "counsel" poor Ol' Bernie about getting his tie clasp straight and taking the junk out of his shirt pockets? You'd have to work the job to understand.

As far as they rules go, they'd better put them out in print and specify what applies to what. There are already laws mandating all sorts of tractor lighting that are basically unknown across the state. NY does a lousy job at stuff like that.

It's good to see the laws change to accommodate new technology.

What a mess that is going to be.So how about a 40 MPH tractor pulling an implement with tires on it rated a maximum off 25MPH?

Thanks for the call and heads up Bro. It is rather ironic that a farmer in Wyoming hears about these new rules before farmers in NY. I guess NY farmers will have to have a billboard attached to the rear of tractor and implement to mount all the signs to, and a rear camera system pointing rearward because driver can't see around the safety signage.
Yesterday I got behind a custom operator With a big square baler hooked behind a new Massy tractor. I was surprised to see that he was running just shy of 40mph. I don't recall a SMV emblem on the back of baler, but lots of yellow strobe lights and turn and brake lights on back of baler. I believe that the old law said that if you travel over 25mph a SMV emblem is/was illegal.---Loren

It sounds like they are creating a new category of ag vehicle to meet the needs of those farms willing to pay for new equipment with 40MPH capabilities, rather than simply upgrading the ratings all existing ag equipment.

The video talked about both the tractor and implement are required to be rated for 40MPH road travel. Unless the towed implement is also rated for 40MPH, a 40MPH tractor still be limited to the towed implements 25MPH capabilities (25MPH ag tires, no brakes, no registration or licence, etc.)? Fully loaded grain carts, manure tankers and combines will require some serious upgrades to be safe at 40MPH, but it might be well worth it for some of the larger spread out farms of the near future.

Maybe they specially picked "Ol Bernie" and had him dress down a little (for better acceptance by older farmers watching the video?) LOL.

You are right about the need for extra printed material and maybe an extensive ad campaign to inform the motoring public and farmers ASAP.

I'm not sure I get the point. If you get behind a tractor going 30 mph down the road, why do I need to read a sticker on the tractor that says 30 mph? I've already noticed that dang tractor sure is a fast one!
Or if he is only going 20 mph, am I supposed to honk at him because he's going too slow?
Or is the point of this to show that even though he has a SMV sign, it is ok for him to go faster than the usual 25 mph limitation (or whatever your state uses) on farm vehicles?
Do you have to pay for the 30 mph sticker?
If you don't have the 30 mph sticker but get caught going 30, is that a violation?
This sounds more like a revenue scheme than a safety scheme.

Looks like a lot of BS to me. Anyone sees a tractor they know it will be going slower than their car. The sign doesn't help if you come over a hill and suddenly find yourself coming up on a tractor and can't stop. I was nearly killed onetime in that situation where I came over a hill going 65 and had less than 75' to stop or go around. I went around and over the next hill came a Greyhound buss coming at me head on. I barely made it around the tractor before the buss got to me.

You guys overthink much? It s pretty straightforward. If your tractor or implement goes under 25 mph, you need an smv. Been that way for decades. If your tractor goes 40mph, you need a round sticker that says 40 mph. If the implement you re pulling can only be pulled at 30mph, you need a round sticker that says 30mph. Almost all equipment coming from Europe already has the sticker for kph. Just need to change it to the obsolete mph...

Big Joke. I run combines and tractors down the highway all the time. Miles of clear visibility, broad daylight, SMV sign, 3 sets of blinky lights on back, top and outermost points, strobe lights and I'M THE SIZE OF A HOUSE!!! and people will still run up on you from either direction and slam on their brakes like they never saw you. I really don't know what adding a stupid little white sticker with a number on it is going to do to help fix stupid between the ears of someone in their car not paying attention.

Was on I80 west of Lincoln Nebraska today, seen a SMV triangle on a spare tire of a pop up camper being pulled with a grand marquis ford car going 65-70 mph, had Missouri plates.

I agree with straw boss what a joke they must be idiots

A fella in our state of SD is up for manslaughter because he was on I 90 with a CIH 305 tractor pulling a horse trailer with no lites at 25 mph. Guy who rear-ended him got killed.

Rockyridgefarm just how many city people and subdivision people do you think even knows what a slow moving vehicle sign means not alone a white sticker beside it I'll bet not that many

(quoted from post at 14:54:12 09/11/19) Rockyridgefarm just how many city people and subdivision people do you think even knows what a slow moving vehicle sign means not alone a white sticker beside it I'll bet not that many

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Ricknohio - Are Europeans smarter than Americans? They have had these round max speed stickers on their equipment for years. I do not know if it has helped in rear end accidents, but this will be a zero cost requirement because any manufacturer who sells in Europe already makes the stickers for export. Well, they will have to do mph here because we can t be bothered to get with the better system.

What I am saying is why get all huffed up over having to put a lil sticker on your equipment? Especially since it is already common in other advanced countries?

If the sticker is big enough to read from half a mile off it would make passing easier.

Problem around here are the j a c k a s s e s that place slow moving vehicle signs on mail boxes .
More than once I have slammed on the brakes or turned the steering wheel in a blizzard thinking there was a tractor in front of my vehicle .

The Emperor of NY also wants a new law to require every car, truck, small trailer, and semi trucks registered in NY to buy new licence plates next year. There is nothing wrong with the ones we now have, only a couple years old, but at $25 bucks per vehicle just look at all the money the idiot could add to his coffers, plus what he can add when old plates are sold to recycler. Even his left wing supporters are skeptical about this.-------Loren

Yep, just what's needed. More unenforceable laws.

Rick

A few observations.
I have to say after watching the video, a blue tractor must be the mirrored image of a green one.
I felt blind in my right eye trying to watch the road, then towards the end of the video, that blind spot kept shaking back and forth so bad it distracted me from the traffic. I couldn't stop watching it, thinking it was going to depart company with the tractor.

On another note, what happens when you have a 40 mph sticker and someone rear ends you because you were only going 20? Is some huckster lawyer going to sue you for going too slow because the driver thought you were going 40 according to your signage?

And the cop in the video said you HAVE to have a sticker.
He didn't say it's only required for tractors that exceed the 25 mph associated with a SMV sign.
Nor did he say this was only for all new equipment sold in the future.

And he said the corresponding number WILL BE determined by the manufacturer.
Determined by the manufacturer who made the EQUIPMENT or the TIRES?
It's usually the tires that have the speed rating or limitations.

And the farmer WILL BE REQUIRED to carry a spec sheet from both the tractor mfg'er AND the implement mfg'er to determine it's rated speed. So just where are you going to carry this spec sheet on your B John Deere or your IH M or even a cabbed tractor from the 60s? It would be nothing but mouse nest in about 6 months and that's if you could keep it dry that long.

Also, how are you going to get a spec sheet for every piece of equipment from every manufacturer when there are literally hundreds of equipment companies that went out of business years ago for all of the aged equipment still in use on many farms.

And just who is going to enforce these laws?
And what are the penalties if you don't comply?

And what about all these UTV side by sides on the roads now? Most have only tail lights and head lights.
Most have no brake lights or turn signals, yet most drivers don't use the hand signals required.
Most don't have a highway type tread on their tires. Are they a slow moving farm vehicle or not?
Some go 40 or 50 mph as well, yet they have neither a SMV sign or a license plate.
Are they any different than a tractor?

Anyway, just a few things to stew on. I'm gonna go mow some frogs and toads before the next deluge hits.

I see this as some people will complain about anything.
The law only allows SMV to go 25 mph.
With newer faster tractors and pressure from farmers the state moved the speed limit from 25 to 39 for these faster tractors.
Rather than change the old 25 mph SMV sign they added the 30 sign to show this to the public.
You can still go 25 mph but if you want to take advantage of the new rules you need to add the new sign.
But I will give you Barney in the video did not explain that very well.
Slow moving vehicle speed limit raised to 39 mph

Couple of years ago, coming back from Branson, MN, western side of the state...many miles of the same thing with the slo poke signs. Also, later in UP Michigan, along Lake Superior...same idiots using them for driveway markers. Here in MN, it"s illegal for them to be used that way. Some people are just dumb!

Straw boss you are right on. I see a combine waaaay before I see a little SMV sign.

I theory, yeah, the SMV sign is no good over 25mph. Of course, a great many tractors on NYS roads have no speedometer or a broken one if they do have it. What I fear is Ol' Andy (Fredos brother) deciding all the tractors need inspections next. That type of thinking is right up his alley.

Who enforces this stuff? Theoretically any police officer in NYS can. In truth, at least back when I was working, if someone found out you wrote a farmer for not having an SMV sign outside of an accident, you'd be laughed out of the locker room!

IMHO one of the biggest problems is texting while driving.

Emperor Andy is just looking to position himself in a position with his libby friends
to run for president in 2024.
I sure hope his new licence plate BS gets a no vote.
That is just another money grab. The plates we have are perfectly legible, even by
plate readers at toll booths. ------------Loren

(quoted from post at 16:08:32 09/11/19) A fella in our state of SD is up for manslaughter because he was on I 90 with a CIH 305 tractor pulling a horse trailer with no lites at 25 mph. Guy who rear-ended him got killed.

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Hope that guy gets life with no parole and the state sells his farm.

OK several things wrong here. 1: Where is the provision in this law to put extra cops on to enforce this law? 2: Why? That speed sticker isn't going to be readable by a guy doing 60 coming up behind that tractor that has 30 feet or so of folded up implement behind him. So just what good is this going to do? 3: Who cares what another country does? Just because they do it doesn't mean it's a great idea. They are not us and we are not them.

Sounds to me like the governor of NY has strong ties to legal firms. Cause the only folk who are going to benefit from this are the ambulance chasers.

1:That sticker isn't going to make the roads one bit safer.

2:They are not going to make enough off fines to cover the cost of enacting this. Cop is going to have to be pretty bored to go after a tractor on the hope that it's in violation.

3: About the only time you will see a ticket issued is going to be after an accident.

4: And 3 is why the lawyers are going to love this. Once a cop tickets an operator for going to fast or not having the documents required or for not having a sticker/correct sticker the lawyers will be claiming that the ticket proves that the farm owner was ultimately to blame and should pay through the nose. That will be the burden of proof for negligence and large awards.

Rick

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Especially since it is already common in other advanced countries?

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If they are so advanced, why are you still here.