Please, I know its tractor talk, but this is where I reach most of my YT friends that are experts in all areas mechanic. Well, YT friends, redtom is in the dog house. Daughter has a nice 2011 Honda CRV we helped her find used. I did her first oil change because why pay some place to do it! Well, the threads all came out of the aluminum pan with the plug. So I ordered a Lisle brand rethreading plug kit, a rather nice outfit. I had to get a right angle drill. The kit is exactly what you think it is. A drill, a tap, and plugs. I did it and sent her on her way. Only to find the plug drips. Well the drill bit has a pilot but is only as good as your hand while on your back. Come to find out I tapped it just crooked enough to angle the sealing surface. So today I filed the sealing face to try to match my angle. Its improved but still a drip. So, heres my dilemma tighten it until it almost strips or put on a new pan (yuck). The plugs in the kit come with thick nylon washers on them. Anyone have any experience with this kind of replacement. I'm OCD about this and she's even more so....why me?
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ditchwitch
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Maybe try putting a O-ring on the plug or a crush washer if not both . washer on bolt first then the O-ring
Find a drain plug repair kit that has a small plug inside a larger threaded "bushing".
Drain oil, allow to drip, then tilt car a bit so there's no more oil finding it's way to the hole, clean with brakekleen, then slather outer threads of bushing with epoxy, screw bushing in, and allow epoxy to harden.
You now a have new drainplug hole with new threads.
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Here's an example, it may take some searching to find one to fit your thread, or you may need to retap once more, but it's a permanent fix for the problem.
If you are a friend have a lathe, it would be EASY to make one, been there, done that.
Drain oil, allow to drip, then tilt car a bit so there's no more oil finding it's way to the hole, clean with brakekleen, then slather outer threads of bushing with epoxy, screw bushing in, and allow epoxy to harden.
You now a have new drainplug hole with new threads.
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Here's an example, it may take some searching to find one to fit your thread, or you may need to retap once more, but it's a permanent fix for the problem.
If you are a friend have a lathe, it would be EASY to make one, been there, done that.
Hobo,NC
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- Sanford, NC
It is an issue with Honda's an a issue with all drain plugs I will sale a new drain plug and a sealing washer in a heart don't question just pay me life will be good... Do what ever you have to do to seal the plug... Then from now on change the oil thru the dip stick tube with a suction device... That's how I change the oil in my Honda Accord...
Now someones gonna say you taint getting it all I can get it with end a haft a quart are less... If you drain it at the plug you are not much closer than I am... OHC engines do pocket oil you taint never gonna get no mater how you go get it...
Honda does offer a oversize plug for it but it may be to late for that...
Seal it suck it short change it and move on with life..
Gene Davis (Ga.)
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Copper sealing washers are available. They were in a Dorman small parts drawer at the parts store.
Hobo,NC
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- Sanford, NC
Don't mater if he can get a gold sealing washer the hole is crooked...
Wrap the heck out of it with Teflon tape and use thread paste too. I do that to regular plugs that are not stripped. I have had two come lose. This will seal it on the threads rather than the face like it did.
If your OCD does not like that then you need to get a bigger plug kit. You can look for them by hole size.
The trouble is people worrying about the plug being lose then they over tighten it and ruin the threads in the pan.
If your OCD does not like that then you need to get a bigger plug kit. You can look for them by hole size.
The trouble is people worrying about the plug being lose then they over tighten it and ruin the threads in the pan.
Ever see washers with an o ring inside of them. Find a washer that fits over the plug threads with enough room for o ring that fits snug on threads. The washer needs to be just thick enough to keep the o ring from squeezing out , but thin enough to allow o ring to make up for the alignment.
Steve@Advance
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Put enough Teflon tape on it, it will seal.
Wrap the tape only around the bottom of the plug head, not so much on the threads, don't want it getting inside the pan.
Try starting the plug about half way in, then wrapping the area between the head and the sealing surface. Fill the gap, then tighten, but not so much as to squeeze all the tape out.
Wrap the tape only around the bottom of the plug head, not so much on the threads, don't want it getting inside the pan.
Try starting the plug about half way in, then wrapping the area between the head and the sealing surface. Fill the gap, then tighten, but not so much as to squeeze all the tape out.
37chief
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- California
Like others have said Teflon tape. If you wanted to get a permanent seal. Tap out the drain plug to the closest pipe plug. Might be 3/8 pipe. Then drain the oil clean the threads super clean, and epoxy the original plug in. It may be a problem getting the threads clean of oil. Mc Master Carr has led washers which should also work. I epoxyed a drain plug in a aluminum saddle tank on a Volvo FE7. Holding good for a lot of years. Stan
used red MN
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- Coon Rapids, MN
This may be a hack job, in fact I hate to actually post this but it is a fix. Just take your tube of RTV and put a eighth inch bead of it around the plug threads next to the hex head of the plug. Make sure you allow the oil to drain down to a very slow drip, maybe a rate of a drip every 8 to 10 seconds. Seals 95 percent of problem plugs. The problem is who knows what will happen the next time it goes to a quickie oil change joint.
jimg.allentown
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For what it is worth, if you don't fix it right, you will be doing it over and over again. And, if your patch job ever goes to one of those quickie lube places, they could well end up selling her a new oil pan at her expense to cover their own butts.
Do it once, do it right, and replace the oil pan. Then it should be good for the longer term. My opinion. YMMV.
Do it once, do it right, and replace the oil pan. Then it should be good for the longer term. My opinion. YMMV.
Determined
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Remove the seal from the drain plug then screw it in by hand until it is almost touching the pan.
Use a thin feeler gauge to determine where the highs and lows are, mark them, remove plug and lightly file and sand the surface of the pan to get it true to the plug.
When you are real close you can use a magic marker to coat the surface of the pan then lightly snug up the drain plug, this will wipe off the marker from the high spots showing you where you need to gently sand or polish it to get it perfect.
Use a thin feeler gauge to determine where the highs and lows are, mark them, remove plug and lightly file and sand the surface of the pan to get it true to the plug.
When you are real close you can use a magic marker to coat the surface of the pan then lightly snug up the drain plug, this will wipe off the marker from the high spots showing you where you need to gently sand or polish it to get it perfect.
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