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grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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When folks go to car shows there are all different colors of cars. There can be 15 mustangs in 15 different colors and folks love it. But if someone paints an 8n pink or purple ............major come apart! So what's the difference? I've seen some interesting paint jobs on tractors. Mostly tributes of some sort. But no matter how nice I always wondered why.........
 
People like that are at car shows too. You just havent seen them, and those type of people are the reason I no longer show my tractors.
 
I was just at a tractor show that had a 8n painted pink for breast cancer they put a g on it and Packers autographs on it. I thought it was cool as heck
 

The car people get just as freaked out if the color is not one that the car originally came with. It's all about "correctness", you know! :roll:
 

You can paint your tractor any color that you want. It is YOUR tractor. The only problem I have is when the tractor has a high dollar, base coat/clear coat paint finish and they call it restored. That tractor is NOT restored, it is customized.
 
Yea I don't see the big deal either if someone wants to paint their tractor,car,house,etc a color that most wouldn't want so what? A lot of people it seems have the "Herd Mentality"
if it goes against what most others in the herd thinks is 'normal' then they can't handle it.
 
Those folks have too much stuffing in their shirt. Gas engine guys can be over the top as well. I like to see a little diversity and creativeness. I grew up in a blacksmith family and pa was always making something better. My argument is on the old (100 years) equipment who can disprove or prove an assembly and especially color. I?ve seen several criticisms on color and pinstriping of old tractors and engines. If you read and attend shows you run across history. One story I heard years back was from a man whose brother worked as a painter/ pinstriper at an engine factory. He claims his brother admitted that not all pinstriping was the same. Tuesday pm likely was different than Friday am. We had a neighbor that customized the hood of the 44 Massey with the crank every time it wouldn?t start. That may be excessive. Last year Rollag did a feature for homemade and custom. I appreciate that type of initiative because if we didn?t have it we?d be on yesterday?s horses. Take Bobcat for instance. Started in Gwinner by a farmer. We had relatives in that area that had put together something similar. That?s what the neighborhood farmers did because there was a need. Bobcat had many different improvements as they developed and started marketing. Enough of this rambling.
 
I painted the side screens on one of my tractors black and I caught holy keck over it!

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Gotta be careful using the term "restored". Like rustyfarmall says, high gloss and clear coat is NOT original. Alternators on most classics are not original. I don't refer to my tractors as restored, instead say refurbished or refreshed. I have upgraded all 3 to 12 v but use generators so they LOOK original but don't try to pass them off as original. I try to look at each tractor as work someone did to save and bring back a piece of the past. Personally I like to see a photo of what the tractor looked like when they started on it.
 

When shopping for a DB/Case 885, I came across one painted in Case-IH livery. For some reason, this turned me away from the tractor.

Yet, if there ever comes a time I need to repaint my 885, I'm seriously considering going w/ Desert Sunset over Flambeau Red and some "spruced-up" decals. Why, I don't know?
 
I bought an Oliver Super 55 at an auction to part out that had 13 different colors on it---I called it the Tijuana Tractor as it looked like it may have come from Mexico
 
Im not sure the ?major come apart?. A purist will howl much louder than the silent majority.
Or maybe it could have to do with the ability, for some of the old farts, to accept change.
 
Yeah.

Too many guys run a tractor through a car wash, squirt some paint at it, and call it restored.

To me, "restored" means like it came from the factory.
 
My JD 401B industrial is yellow. I could really care it still does the job. I wonder why the company decided to paint non farm tractors yellow. Back in the late 40's the Dupont paint company purchased the Indian motorcycle co. Back then a person could order an Indian motorcycle any color the Dupont company made. I guess if you wanted a pink one the would paint it pink. The main purpose for paint what ever color is to protect the bare metal. Stan
 
I have had this happen with a 39 john deere h. Took about two year to clean it all up and paint it nice and have a nice shine only to have a guy at a show to be jumping up and down on how john deere never painted there tractors to have a shine like it does. Im thinking he wanted people to pay attention to him as a know it all. That was on a Saturday and he did this a couple of times that day loud so the whole world can here him. On Sunday he was there again and the same thing tell my daughter in law heard him and went over and told him to f off. He never came around again. The way I look at it is yours and do what you want. Why this guy was after the h I don't know.
 
Years ago I painted a John Deere M tractor.It was apart,and when I got done with the green I found I had forgotten to paint the screens that went behind the grille.I just decided to paint them yellow when I painted the wheels.It looked sharp,with the yellow screens in the grille.I worked at the JD dealer at the time,and we parked the M on the lawn to show off.I got more flack from people about that stupid grille than I ever would have imagined possible.I'm just as guilty of thinking it needs to be the right colors on some stuff.In the early 80's I bought a 1010 crawler,it had been painted with John Deere ag yellow,not JD industrial yellow.The paint was nice,so the first thing I did was to paint it industrial yellow,that pale ag yellow just didn't fit the look of the dozer.
 
If its like it came from the factory as the standard of being restored then there are very few truly restored tractors as many that have been repainted have far better and more expen$ive paint jobs than they ever had new.
 
True. Although most tractors nowadays are painted according to current standards and methods, not like they were painted originally 50-70 years ago.
 
Was reliably told by a former MF employee in the UK that there is no such thing as the 'correct' red. He said that looking round the lot at the factory on any given day there would be tractors of several different 'hues' depending on which paint supplier had been offering the best deal on the day for the approximately correct colour!
 
I am not sure if I like black side screens or not. I would not say anything bad about anybody that did it. I always paint the axles yellow as that is how I like them. I have a 4020 with the air cleaner pipe and the dash cover painted chrome. My Dad had it done when the tractor was brand new in 1968. The chrome has flaked off and I just spray painted over it. Someday I want to take it to chrome shop and have it done right. Tom
 
Must of been the same idiot that tied in to me about ten years ago down here in Northern Illinois. I took my Super C and he didn't like my paint, too shiny, also told me he's been around those tractors all his life and they never put the temp. gauge on top of the hydraulic controls. So I point to the temp. gauge down in it's proper place and say "what do call this?" Then he claimed the hyd. gauge had to be aftermarket because he never seen one before. Dumb azz, guys like him are part of the reason I haven't taken the tractor in ten years.
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When I worked at the JD dealer the International dealer a mile away had either a Cub or an A on display that was painted either white,or maybe an off white.It was an offset tractor,and he said it was an original.He did explain how they came to be,but I don't remember the details.There was something special about it,maybe it was an anniversary edition or something like that.A Farmall guy could tell in a heartbeat.I know the feeling when people say,it just looks wrong.
 
Your picture is a good example. I acquired a plow like yours in pieces. A 3 bottom in pieces and missing the quick hitch. It now lives on as a 2 bottom 3pt with a Chevy guage wheel.
 
Ihc painted ihc white was a factory demonstraiter.
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She lost her mom to breast cancer
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Her dads tractor is following her and few guys were disgruntled cause she painted it her way.didnt bother me.but when i learned why she painted it that color i was happy she did
 
Well for once you were way ahead of the trend ! lol. I'm still way behind as I repainted mine.
 
Those comments have never bothered me. I have a late styled B John Deere. The seat is yellow. I have been told 101 times that it is wrong. My answer is always the same (and true), "I know it is wrong, but I use it and the correct black seat gets HOT if it is in bright sunlight, and I like the look of the yellow seat better".
 
Yes it was best tribute ever to her mom,think she was 14 or 15 last year. Very nice young lady too.
 
(quoted from post at 06:46:54 09/03/19) When I have painted tractors I used OEM product. Just can not get more correct than that.
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Is it? Does anyone still offer the oil/lead base enamels that were actually used on most of this old stuff? Or are they selling a modern paint? That would make most tractor paint jobs no wher near stock. And what about the guys who's old tractor names were bought out by someone else. According to your thinking then the only OEM paint still available from the manufacturer would be Cat and Deere. Cause the rest are no longer in business. FIAT owns Case, IH and the Ford lines. I think AGCO owns the MM, Oliver, White, AC and MF names. Yep, Just Deere and Cat.

Rick
 
jd man wis: fellows like that are why none of my wife's tractors or mine have been to a "show" in over fifteen years. I got so tired of the JD correction police I have sold all the two cylinders other than the ones that have sentimental value for us.

I would not pay a dime to go to a JD show anymore. I like looking at TimS's JD 60 crawler and his JD 60 MFWD. A friend and I go to 4-5 shows a year. I bet we spend less than a half an hour looking at the JD stuff. First off we both grew up around JD stuff, so most of it we grew up with and neither of us are really romantic about it. The JD two cylinder tractors are a crude rugged tractor but in no way user friendly.

So we usually look at the other brands as we have not seen near as many of them around. In general the IH,AC,MF and Oliver guys are a much more laid back group. So we have gone to the Orange Spectacular and the IH red Power round up, instead of the JD Expo.
 
The golden and white tractors were painted as such for demonstrators in limited quantity. Though I believe the gold was for the first of that model the dealer got. All were marketing gimmicks.
At the mackinaw bride crossing a guy brought in an H or M painted JD green with yellow wheels. Sure did look different.
The pink deal I don't care for.
 
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