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What to do with gas oil mix

super99

super99

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My JD 70 has sat for most of a year, went to try to start it this afternoon and battery was dead. Decided to check the oil while it charged and it was really thin, black and smelled of gas. Good thing it didn't start!! Not sure how much gas was in it, so I put a 5 gallon bucket under the check oil spigot and open it up. 4 gallon or so later, it quit running out, then I drained the crankcase. So now I have about 7gallon of gas oil mix to get rid of. Leave the lid off of the bucket and let it evaporate? Add a little at a time to the gas tank and run it thru the tractor and lawn mower? I have a pile of wood to burn, but I don't think I want to be anywhere near enough to touch it off. Dump it on the ground where you want to kill everything? Decisions, decisions. Chris
 
My waste oil goes into a barrel and goes to a friend with a waste oil shop furnace. I don't know how it handles something like your mixture.
I'm wondering if with that mixture if the oil will let the gas evaporate? I recall trying to cut the top out of an empty waste oil barrel with a torch. Apparently there had been a large percentage of gas in the oil, because, even though the barrel was empty, the tiny bit of residue apparently was giving off gas vapors, because it kept chuffing at me.
Must be you haven't had this trouble before? You don't have an auto shut off, or shut off the bowl manually?
 
It has the factory oil pressure controlled shut off, not sure why it leaked past yet, haven't got that far into it.
 
Dump it on your wood pile. Have a rag attached to a stick soaked in gas, lit. Stand back 10 or so feet and toss it on the pile. Stan
 
I would be more concerned as to why you have gas leaking into your oil. It may be you may have a cylinder or more not firing and the gas is just going into the oil. You can change the oil but until you correct the problem the new oil will be diluted also.

As far as disposing the oil/gas let it sit somewhere in an open container for a few weeks and the gas should evaporate. Then dispose of like used oil.
 
It's old, they leak. My solution is to install an SS ball valve after the shutoff and before the carb. Hang a red tag on the valve, then hang it on the choke knob as a reminder. Not correct, but who cares, it solved the problem of leaky oil press. shut off (which I don't have) AND faulty needle/seat/ float.
 
My cousins 60 had a rod coming back through the dash from the shut off on the sediment bowl, so he could turn the gas on and off right from the seat. I assumed it was OEM, but don't know.
 
Around here most all places that sell oil are required to have a recycle tank, I assume that's federal law everywhere.

Check with your local auto supply, they should have a place to dump it.

Watch the carb when you refill the gas, it may be flooding.
 
It's a bad idea to start brush fires with gasoline. I personally know a couple of fellows who were severely burned this way.

Most places that accept used oil don't want obvious contaminants. If the store person insists on dumping your "oil" for you, it will be obvious to them it's mostly gasoline.

I'd be inclined to strain it and mix it with fresh gas in your tractor. My second choice would be to mix it with other used oil and dispose of it a bit at a time at the recycler.
 
I run the neighbors crankcase oil / gasoline mix through a fine screen?.then any one of my JD'Ds" run fine on the mix....1 part Mix...to 2 parts new gasoline...engine temp...200 deg F..


Bob...
 
Chris the rubber diaphragm go bad in those shut offs and let the gas gravity feed back into the crankcase. That is why a lot of them are taken out of the system.
 
Sounds Likehe had an all fuel tractor with 2 fuel tanks, small 1 gallon gas for starting and big main tank for distulate or kerosine to run on while working. They had that rod in the dash to changefrom the gas to the kerosine when it warmed up a bit and when you wanted to shut the tractor off you switched it to the off position on that rod and valve and ran carb dry so when you went to start it you turned valve to small tank for tha gas to start. If it did not have that 3 position control on dash you would have had to have gotten off tractor and walked around to the carb to do that job.
 
It work fine in an All fuel JD like my 1935 B. Make a good brush pile starter fuel if you know how to do it safely. If you don't it can blow up in your face
 
(quoted from post at 01:23:02 08/28/19) My JD 70 has sat for most of a year, went to try to start it this afternoon and battery was dead. Decided to check the oil while it charged and it was really thin, black and smelled of gas. Good thing it didn't start!! Not sure how much gas was in it, so I put a 5 gallon bucket under the check oil spigot and open it up. 4 gallon or so later, it quit running out, then I drained the crankcase. So now I have about 7gallon of gas oil mix to get rid of. Leave the lid off of the bucket and let it evaporate? Add a little at a time to the gas tank and run it thru the tractor and lawn mower? I have a pile of wood to burn, but I don't think I want to be anywhere near enough to touch it off. Dump it on the ground where you want to kill everything? Decisions, decisions. Chris
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Dump it on the woodpile one day and light it off the next.
 
JD has it right. The diaphragms in the fuel shutoff have a hole in them. The gas will leak back through the oil lines to the crankcase. There are new diaphragms available that resist alcohol infused gasoline. www,greenpartsofva.com have these parts.
 
Chris,
Gas won't evaporate that fast.
It will kill termites, however it's not EPA approved.
I would dilute it more with used oil, then use it to start brush fire.
Put gas/oil on brush pile, then stand back when you torch it off.
 
Dad always put a quart of oil in a full tank of gas when doing plowing and fitting ground several times a season. I did the same in my Oliver 1850's. With your mix being mostly gas I would dump a gallon in a full tank of gas and never look back.
 

If you have a metal 5/20 gal. container with a open lid bucket fill haft full and burn it off.

I would not dump a gas mix into someones storage tank unless they said it was OK...
 

Fence row weed killer, or brush pile accelerant. DO NOT attempt to use it in any gas powered machine. If you do, you will be cleaning a carburetor.
 
Why not? 2 stroke engines run with oil in the gasoline all the time and the carburetors hold up just fine. Old tractor carburetors have even less in them to be affected by oil.

You're starting with a 4:3 mix of gas to oil. If you add a quart of that to 5 gallons of fuel, you're right around that magic 40:1 ratio. Might be a bit of a blue haze and it might smell funny, but it will run and won't hurt a thing.
 
I'd filter the mix and add it to the gas a little at the time every time I filled up a tractor.An older fellow was killed some years ago working on a 2 cyl JD that one of the cylinders had filled with gas.He took the spark plug out and apparently the plug wire arched against the block when they cranked it over,set the gas on fire as it blew out of the
cylinder all over him burned real bad he died a few days later.Think his name was Thomas Jett from Spotsylvania County VA.
 
Dump it on the brush pile wait a couple of hours. The volatile portion of the gas will have evaporated then light it.
 
I always used as brush pile starter, did same with all old gas out of lawn mowers when I was running that shop, we pour it on wood pile let it soak it and burn it few days if not weeks later, the boom is all gone by then, just don't have cig in mouth when doing this, I knew fellow that did and lets just say it was his last cig.
 
I had some old chainsaw mix years ago that I didn't want to put in a chainsaw so I put it in some small water bottles that I had saved for that purpose. Then, in winter, during my annual stump, brush burning operation, I threw them, hand grenade style, into each fire. One at a time so that I was satisfied that each one had exploded. Worked for me. You have to be careful because of the possibility of one not blowing up. Give it time to cool off.
 
Man, a ton of replies. Interesting that a lot of YT'ers don't read the other posts before replying themselves. Many, many of these are saying pretty much the same thing.
 
(quoted from post at 12:45:16 08/28/19)
If you have a metal 5/20 gal. container with a open lid bucket fill [b:d5801da2df]haft [/b:d5801da2df]full and burn it off.

I would not dump a gas mix into someones storage tank unless they said it was OK...
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That doesn't mean what you think it means.

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noun: haft; plural noun: hafts

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the handle of a knife, ax, or spear.
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antonyms: blade, head

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verb: haft; 3rd person present: hafts; past tense: hafted; past participle: hafted; gerund or present participle: hafting

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Use over time for: haft
 

I don't think that's a requirement in Michigan. Many big box retailers sell motor oil but will not accept used oil for recycling. It's even hard to find an auto parts store that will take it.
 
Your a man after my own heart. Trash barrel, take plastic water bottles and fill them with drain oil from the local oil change joint. You would not believe how much gasoline is in that oil!!! With the little fire burning and then that bottle melts through it goes Pretty good! Gets them twigs and stuff going real good. Another thing I did was install an air blower system on that 55 gallon barrel. Ho Boy does it go! One of those bouncey house blowers and some 4inch stove or water heater pipe. Burns super hot with absolutely no smoke what ever.
 
'Bad way ..' My neighbor, a few bricks short of a chimney, did exactly that. BIG brush/crap fire about 100' from his house. Hucked some gas and used oil on it an let her rip. The boom rattled the windows in my house and such, I dialed '91 and kept my finger next to 1, 400m away as I ran over there. Dumbaxx was laffing his butt off - I punched on the beak and sat his butt on the ground. He doesn't live on the property. Next day, I smell smoke, go over there and the fire had crept through the undergrowth and was merrily doing it's thing. Called the fire guys and used his hose to slow it down. NOT my favorite guy - PS, he was growing pot in the house.
 
You have a super charged 55 gallon barrel! Ought to be able to melt steel. I take a 55 gallon barrel with both ends cut out and put it over a stump and get it going. Believe it or not, on one of those cold Jan/Feb days that fire will completely consume not only the stump but its roots as well. All the way. Plow right through it in the spring.
 
TIM .... you get a lifetime membership in the YT Spelling, Grammar, Punctuation & Pronounce Police
Association. You missed something though in the same sentence .... the "a" should be replaced with "an"
.... but that's OK, you're just a new member of the association, LOL. Here's your oversight ....

"If you have a metal 5/20 gal. container with a open lid bucket fill haft full and burn it off."
 
> ...Hucked some gas and used oil on it an let her rip...

He's dam lucky. Interestingly, this topic came up here a few months ago. You'd be surprised how many folks insist it's perfectly safe to start fires with gasoline. "You just have to know what you're doing." (Actually, that same position is taken here regarding a number of very dangerous activities.) I suppose if you wake up in the ICU, that should tip you off that you didn't actually know what you were doing.
 
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