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37chief

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Growing up there was always plenty of baling wire. Then years later bales came cord tied. My supply of baling wire soon ran out. I was at a farm sale years ago, and bought a new box of baling wire for wire tie balers for almost nothing. a very heavy box of wire. I now have wire to last me the rest of my life, and someone else the same. Anyone still use wire tie balers? Mechanics wire is available, but you just can't beat real baling wire. I imagine some of you young guys haven't seen baling wire. Stan
 
I had a Massey #10 wire baler. Gave 300.00 for it and it worked well for me until I needed to start selling hay and had to find a twiner. Wire was rare in Western Oregon so it would have to be shipped in to the tune of 150.00/box. When I visited my friends in Western Colorado I would buy it for 75.00/100# box. I had one broken box that supplies all my "baling wire" needs.
 
You can still buy baling wire. A couple of my fences I'm sorry to admit are more baling wire than barb wire.
 
It will do to war up the orn if you have no bob war JK. I buy galvanized electric fence wire and use it freely for the nice work and use re-bar tie wire if I do not mind rust. A fellow who rented my pasture used coat hangers to wire corral panels together
 
Along that same thought, if I need corrosion=proof outside weather-proof rust-proof washers, I'm too cheap to buy stainless, I drill a hole in a nickel.
 
I own an aerial communications construction company. We use stainless steel lashing wire. It is either 0.038? or 0.045? depending on the project specifications. The wire is used to helically Lash the fiber optic cable to a support cable from pole to pole. When the spool is too short to reach the next pole, the spools are changed and we are left with a 200? +/- spool end. So I have an endless supply of stainless steel wire.
 
Yes Sir I still use a wire tie baler my neighbor still uses the 283 NH wire tie we sold him new in 1974, I also have a Case 330 wire tie, this is a 140W
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I found a Whitney hand powered punch at an auction once. About 18 inches long. Works great for punching holes in pennies and nickles for washers.
 
I don't want to see a Case wire tie, my uncle had an old case hand tie when I was young my cousin and I tied naturally my uncle
was the tractor driver. That was the most miserable nasty filthy job I ever had. I miss my uncle and cousins but not that baler.
 
The Baler Dad used was a late 50's NH wire tie. The baler left a little sharp piece of wire sticking up from the tie, and we had to be careful not to get too close to it. No one used gloves back then. Stan
 
When I worked in the Insulite Board mill in 77-81 we had a paper tube of baling wire on the wall outside the shop door. The wire was about 14 ga and 10 feet long with a loop in one end. We used it for whatever. Probably was originally for the hay presses the 2 men would feed the wire through above the spacers. When I was young, (before 59) dad had a wire tie baler, but I think it used a spool of wire and twisted it, but sometimes left pieces of wire in the bale,hence causing hardware disease!
 

There's probably more wire small sq balers in Texas than a lot of other areas. I own a JD 347 wire baler. I helped my neighbor time the feeder fingers on his 348 wire baler,I have another neighbor with a 348 wire & another neighbor with a NH wire baler. Quality of new baling wire is't near as good as it was yrs back & it doesn't contain as much oil on it as it once did.
 
a neighbor had a couple of those as well he always hated that part of it, Case twisters did not leave that it was just one of the selling points we told potential buyers when comparing different brands, I had forgot that till you said it
 
Yes those hand tie units were miserable to be on the tying end,, but Case held the baler market for years with them until a self tie came to be, here there was many dozens of them in use
 
Wire tie is about all you see around me in Oklahoma. Years ago I worked for a New Holland dealer and their service rep told me that about 75% of the balers they made were twine tie but in Oklahoma and Texas they were nearly all wire tie. We had one guy that had a twine tie baler.
 
Case wire tie with a long tube full of the looped wire. Two green seats, one on each side, for the unfortunate pair chosen under duress and threat, to tie bales. I was 6 or younger, and not allowed. I did get to restraighten used wire saved from bales using a machine with a lever on the barn wall. It had a vice grip on one end and a nub on a lever to pull on the eyelet. The wire was used 2 or three times before the scrap pile. The Wisconsin engine on that machine was kept running all day. If shut off it took 2 hours to get it restarted. Jim
 
I was running 20 plus hour days trying to get haying done so I could not have him stop by, this is my time to make my money for the whole year so I seldom have time for tours, sorry for it to work out that way but I cant stop when its time for crops to be brought in, last year I lost over half my income to hail storms and this year was not a lot better, one 10 min storm can and does take out 30,000 real easy of my income, and no insurance does not pay when I have at least some production like some many think it does here so i quit paying out 8000 a year for nothing. Next year will be better lol I was haying non stop from the 12th of June till now, I will start grain harvest in less than a week so my work is not even close to done, I hope he understood my reasons but some do not and that has also slowed my interest in giving tours, same reason i never make it to any Case shows
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Around here the horse people will NOY buy wire tied hay. They are all told how there is wire cutting in the bale. I think only really old twisters did that but that is what they think and no amount of truth will change their minds. So wire tied will being half what twine tied will here.
 
(quoted from post at 08:49:52 08/09/19) Around here the horse people will NOY buy wire tied hay. They are all told how there is wire cutting in the bale. I think only really old twisters did that but that is what they think and no amount of truth will change their minds. So wire tied will being half what twine tied will here.
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To my knowledge the newer wire balers don't leave pieces of wire in/on hay. IRRC the JD 14W/116W that twisted wires on both ends of the bale did leave short pieces of wire in/on hay bales I know my JD 347 wire baler doesn't leave pieces of wire in/on bales.
 
Not being a farm guy, I suspect that the disadvantage of twine is maybe the tying (or knotting) is suspect and the bales fall apart?
 
Here in Ohio you could hardly give a wire tie baler away for use. I just scraped 2 I had as show pieces as I could find no one to even take them for show pieces.
 
I bought an IH 47 wire tie baler a few years ago for $600. Unlike other IH balers of that era it works. They got the wire knotters right before they got the twine tie knotters right. Wire tie balers don't seem near as finicky about timing and where the wire comes from as long as it feeds correctly.
 
I remember those wires very well. before the auto wire tie, out neighbor had a baler that Dad used with those wires. One person one side poking the wire through and a person on the other side tying. Dad had a bundle hanging in the barn, an endless supply of wire. I worked for a farmer one season poking wires. What a dusty job. Stan
 
Hey Case Nutty>>>> Don't even think about it. I fully understand and respect your reasons. Besides I may get out your way in a couple years and will try again. If I was younger I might have offered to help out. Now about the Case 2 wire baler. I spent a few years as a kid on a Case hooking wires and got a cent and a half a bale ,Good money for the day. The same farmer also had a JD 3 wire pick up baler I often worked on that running wires and the boss walked a platform on the other side hooking wires and catching the block and carrying it to the block dropper and he would reverse the table and then drop the block and start all over again. I got 2 cents a bale on the JD for running wires but could make more money on the Case 2 wire baler/. The boss did custom baling all over the County. Also I took a bunch of pictures at Pioneer Village in Minden Nb. of a Case wire baler. The foot rest on this one were still not bent back like the one I worked on. Any way I hope you have a good year OK ? . Jack .. The Old Scovy.
 
Did you ever have any thing to do with a M M wire baler ? That thing cut off a little piece of wire about an inch long and it rattled it down a chute into a pan under the knotters. A neighbor had one and was the talk of the area around us. Also Jim Ertle in Canandugia NY had a big 3 wire automatic wire baler with a VAC ? engine on it. I never seen it work. Wonder where it is now ? It was sold in his auction. A very nice looking baler. / Old Scovy
 
I was around 10, or 12, and Dad thought I should learn how to poke wires. It wasn't long before I poked the wire on the wrong side of the blocker(bale divider plate) Everything shut down for a short time to untie the blocker plate. I didn't do that again. That was so long ago. Stan
 
Never been around a MM baler never seen any around here, as for the big 3-wire Case baler that would have been a NAP-3 with a SE power unit on them
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no problem for me i would not sell to horse hay buyers if they pay double my asking price learned long ago what many of those people are about,,
 
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