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coshoo

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So why, in this age of enlightenment and bad gas, don't all small engines come with a 3 position valve on the bottom of the gas tank- On, Off and DRAIN! Sure would make it a lot easier to get them ready for winter.
 
Two reasons. Nobody is willing to pay extra for it, and today there are more idiots than ever who would hurt themselves or cause property damage not knowing how to use it.
 
And mower shops would repair fewer, as well as big box stores, would sell fewer new mowers. Good idea though, add one to yours!. Jim
 
Those on/off valves are on 3bay and at many car part stores. The trick is to put in that valve, and then run your engine a little. Next shut the valve and let the carb run dry. Buy Hi-test gas and fill the gas tank to the top . Now you are ready to put it away. Just started my little 3300 Generac this afternoon and she popped off on the second pull after sitting over a year.
 
I really don't have any problems with my small engines, and I use E10 in all the 4-strokes, and the 2 strokes are easy to dump the gas out of. We have 7 small 4-strokes and 11 2 strokes, and they all start and run fine, but I use a little basic common sense with them. But, I really do think we have better gas in N MN, I think it comes from Canada!
 
Same here. I never had a problem with the E10 in Ohio. Whatever's in the can over winter gets used next year, two or four stroke. I don't use my chainsaws a lot and the blower only gets use in the fall.
 
I need to tell my equipment it is supposed to have trouble on E10. My stuff just runs, no problem with E10. I find poor maintenance and/or fuel storage to be cause of things blamed on "awful, horrible, no good, terrible, boogey man E10".
 
I use E-10 in my Honda Generator. Doesn't get used much, checked the gas after it sat for a year and a half it smelled fine so I used it no problems. But I NEVER leave gas in the carb, shut gas off and let it run until it dies.
 
Sprint 6 I am in agreement with you, I think these folks having trouble with E 10 have more going on. Maybe there were some line issues in early days but we have over 20 air cooled engines here and some are not used more than once a deal and really have just not experienced the kind of trouble these folks are claiming. Not to say if I pick up a chainsaw or something that has not been used in months I might turn it upside down and dump the gas and add new , but just no real problems with the e 10
 


I think the E10 issues are related to your local blends. If I use our E10 in my small engined stuff I WILL have issues, no if's and's or but's about it. Count your blessings if you don't have these problems. I can assure you it's not just a lack of common sense precautions.
 
I believe blend is one of the factors, it's probably different for many areas, different for different refineries.

Another big factor is evaporation. The temperature where the equipment is stored, where the gas is stored, how long it's stored, but most importantly how well the containers are sealed. Same thing with the design of the individual piece of equipment, if the tank is (somewhat) sealed, the design of the carb as to how the bowl is vented.

And finally the design of the carb itself. Some have very light plastic floats that stick easier than the heavier brass floats. Some draw fuel directly off the bottom of the bowl, so any residue clogs the jet. Just the basic design can cause some to be very fickle, others forgiving. The older carbs use rubber components that are not ethanol resistant.

That said, today's gas is designed to meet the mass market, cars and trucks with sealed and pressurized fuel injection systems made with ethanol resistant components. The carbeureted engines don't meet the criteria, so there can be problems.
 
(quoted from post at 08:46:48 07/24/19)

I think the E10 issues are related to your local blends. If I use our E10 in my small engined stuff I WILL have issues, no if's and's or but's about it. Count your blessings if you don't have these problems. I can assure you it's not just a lack of common sense precautions.
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