What would you do update

Stopped at tire shop. Employee ,been there for years ,was only one there. He said it was a rusty rim. I said on Saturday y'all called said it was ok and put a new tube in. Last time I had a flat they broke it down and called me to come get the rim and clean it up and paint it. I figured they would do the same thing this time. Long story short he told me to take it home and fix the rim ....said I could break it down too..... looks like I need to catch the owner there....or find a new shop.

You ask what would I do? I would either suck it up and buy a new rim or work on the old rim myself till I was happy that is was OK for installing a tube into it. I would also try to forget about all of the details that actually happened, supposedly happened, maybe happened, perhaps happened and the same for everything said (actually, supposedly, maybe, perhaps) and move on with life. It's really not that big of a deal when you really put things in perspective. Things could be a lot worse. And yes I know, easy to say from my end but you did ask what I would do in your post title.

I am happily breaking down the tire. I will get the rim looking good ,patch tube and remount. Life is short no need to dwell on issues.

I don't have much patience with tire people. If they won't do what you ask I would go elsewhere. In my case though, I'm down to the last tire shop in my area.

I really like to sandblast rusty rims. Gets the rust out for good. Do you have access to a sandblaster ? If you get any small spots with holes a mig welder will fill them in nice. I also stand them up on edge on saw horses or whatever then you can spray the inside and outside at the same time as you roll them.

That?s pi$$ poor service in my book but I?ve been in that situation before and most times it just isn?t worth getting in a fight over but the guy should have offered to break it down since he knew it was a rusty rim why did he put the tire on it in the first place then act like he?s doing you a favor to let you pay the tire shop for a job they couldn?t do.

I'm on my third tire store for tractor tire service. The first one cut a bead on a good tire, said bead was rusted. Then punched a hole in the sidewall of another tire during service months later said it was rotten rubber. The next store punched a hole through the wall just above the bead. Guy was lazy about placing the bead breaker on the rim and busted through the sidewall when he ran the inpact gun on it.
Third service is closer and so far has been good. They have broken down 8 tires for me and mounted 5 tires. BTW, these were ALL 28" tires.

Grandpa the owner needs to know this just aint right. Advice for you when I have these rims that are pitted and such. After cleaning wire wheel etc I put duck tape right around the rim where tube goes yes all of it. It serves as a liner and has worked for me for 30 years since I first caught on to it.

I took my 38' rears to the only game in the area. They removed the tires and tubes. I took the rims home (50 kms. ea. way), sandblasted them and coated them with bed liner. My son had gifted me new tubes (worked for another tire joint in Vancouver) and did the reverse transport thing. The morning after the re-install , one was flat. Phoned. Next day the young guy from the shop showed up on a motorcycle (tire irons and all) and installed a new tube. Took the pinched one away and brought it back the next day with a patch on it. Great service I thought! P.S. now I have a 'new' patched spare tube which I will likely never use.

Air that patched tube up and throw it out on the lawn. The Grandkids will have a blast jumping on it.

I took a 38? rim this morning to town to have a used 12.4-38 tire mounted for my JD 60, stopped by to pick it up while ago and it cost me $133.20, I was told they couldn?t keep it aired up and removed first tube which was ruined, then took grinder to inside of wheel and cleaned it up, then wrapped inside center of my wheel with duct tape and put the second new light tube in, the price kind of caught me off guard....looks like they should have cleaned and wrapped with tape before destroying the 1st new tube...

We tried duct tape once it doesn?t last very long before it comes unglued ang starts making a ball that wears a hole in the tube

Remove the tire off the rim and use a grinder with a wire wheel to clean it up. Feel for sharp edges and hit them with a flapper wheel on the grinder. Paint it and put it all back together. I like the duct tape idea but the balling up doesnt sound good. Maybe gorilla tape?

Have a biscuit,,give the wife a hug,,, and be thankful! The tire is small bump in the great road you and your family travel.

I've explained my experience in situations similar to this, and why I believe the tire guys did what they did in the other thread.

Given what's been said here, it sounds like they know they somehow screwed up, and are now wanting to cover their rear. By that I mean by not even breaking it down for you they can claim you cut the tube, or whatever, if that's what you find when you break it down.

Personally I'd have a chat with the manager, or better yet the owner if available, before I did anything else. Regardless of what the screwup was, or wasn't, the attitude inferred by telling you to break it down yourself (ie- we got paid, you're on your own ) is enough to warrant at least an apology from the tire shop.

Good idea. Wish I'd thought of it a month ago when they were here - they live over 1,200km. away.

I would buy a new rim and tube. They are too cheap to mess around trying to fix up rusty junk.

I'd send my wife in to 'chat' with them,she's a tough old gal when it comes to money issues(LOL) A good tire shop like I took my last tractor tire to,young Mennonite fellow
took the 15.5 X 38 tire off the rim,used a shop vac to clean it out,asked me if I had a lot of thorns.I said no,he checked the tire out on the inside anyway real good.Cleaned up
the rim with a grinder and a buffer,sprayed it with quick drying silver paint,remounted the tire with a new tube,charged me $93 total. Tire works fine.

Well said Wayne, I agree they should have at least broke it down and had a look.

I don't know the shop's policy on tractor tires. They may not be geared toward that line of service. If they don't want the business, or are not equipped to handle the large tires, they need to say so.

Well fights are cheap and since I wouldn't be going back to the jack leg place anyway I'd go in with the full treatment,plus it pays to pay with a credit card you could get their attention since they didn't deliver the promised service.(Fix the tire so it'd hold air) Ignoring poor service just encourages more of it.

My tire dealer (the owner) said they been using duct tape for many many years on rusty tractor wheels

I don?t know if you want to ?engage ? them. But if you do , the power of social media is impressive. If they advertise on facebook - you and about 40 friends start advertising how you were treated - a lot of businesses can?t afford that - will make it right just to stop the exodus. Google and yelp reviews are up there forever. Doesn?t have to be vindicative. Just this is how I was treated. Do you think they did me right ?

I hope it works it seems like a good idea to help solve rusty rim problems

Last spring I got around to draining and pulling both rear tires off my 4020. Mostly because 1 rim had rusted thru and was splitting. Only a matter of time until the tube popped. So, spent 8 hours. Bought 2 new tubes because the valves had become rotten too. I would say 2 hours was spent on the tire work. The other 6 hours spent draining and refilling the calcium. I suppose I saved about $300 in labor and service charges.

(quoted from post at 14:39:03 07/23/19) Stopped at tire shop. Employee ,been there for years ,was only one there. He said it was a rusty rim. I said on Saturday y'all called said it was ok and put a new tube in. Last time I had a flat they broke it down and called me to come get the rim and clean it up and paint it. I figured they would do the same thing this time. Long story short he told me to take it home and fix the rim ....said I could break it down too..... looks like I need to catch the owner there....or find a new shop.

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My favorite part of this site is learning about different outlooks and perspectives in various areas of the country.

Where I'm at, a tire shop would be so busy taking care of the dozen BIG tires on $300,000 4X4 tractors and the 18 tires on hard-working $$$$ making semis, not to mention selling high-dollar replacement tires and fancy rims for $$$$ SUV's and fancy pickups they'd laugh you right out the door if you showed up with a rotten 'ol 8N rim and tire.

It could just be like some of the stuff I used to do here for guys. For the amount of time and hassle it's not worth the bother for the reward or the liability if they fix it. Then something happens injuring them or you because the rim split while inflating or after because of rust or welding.

Some days guys call with this stuff I know whats going to happen now. I just tell them i'm busy, I'd be busy if the shop was empty and I was watching TV. why do I want to fight for several hours or more, give the guy a bill for $100 plus parts I fetched that might cost $60. Then have to listen to him whine because he thought $50 or less would of got parts and fixed it.
When I worked for the seed plant we had a FWA 6400 Deere, the boss wanted me to fix the flat on the front. I jacked it up tried for 10 minutes to get the bead to move then quit.

When the boss left for the day I called the tire shop . He said the trucks busy, could I bring the wheel Heck yes be there in an hour. They had a huge hydraulic machine would do 38" plus tractor rims and tires. That guy made that machine struggle for 30 minutes while he pulled control levers. seeing that rim in your pictures wouldn't encourage me either to be honest, after fighting a tire with a perfect painted rim like that Deere one.

The catch with that tractor was it came from a dairy farm and the corrosion crept in the rim and locked the beads tight and you couldn't see it, the tire guy was surprised their machine struggled.

The last used 36" Fordson Major rim I had here with a hole about an inch round I could see and near perfect looking 50 year old paint on the rest of the outside was totally rotten. It was nearly in 2 parts apart from a bit about 10" long by the time I'd got the tire off, and beat on the crust inside the rim with a welding hammer. Your rim could be very similar when you are done cleaning.
Maybe it's just time to buy a new rim if it's common, put a new tube in and be done with it unless you get a flat or wreck a tire.

Well said also Steve.

These are the reasons I do my own tire work. Though My brother bought a tractor this spring with shot tires. He had a tire guy come out and put 4 new tires on and move the inside tires to the outside for the duals. One dual went flat with new tube. They came out and replaced tube no questions asked. I do suppose the 4,000.00 plus helped with that decision by them.