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grandpa Love · Jul 23, 2019

International 47. The good, the
bad ,the ugly. Y'all's opinion?
It's only $700. Ol' guy passed
away,farm is for sale... equipment
going ......

Cutter is $500.

Traditional Farmer · Jul 23, 2019

If you like your bales with the twine tied run don't walk from that baler.

old · Jul 23, 2019

I too would run away from that baler. Parts are hard to come by on them plus not near what a NH baler is

SVcummins · Jul 23, 2019

I have a 440 international and it?s probably the best little baler I?ve ever used it had been parked in my aunts shed for at least 25 years still had twine it missed 4 bales out of 700 last year blew it off and greased it and it parked it outside all winter hooked on and headed to the field missed 2 bales again and haven?t had any trouble since then they will all miss tie once in awhile or if you shove to heavy a windrow to fast or or if you run in hay that?s way to light driving around a long time trying to pick up enough to make a bale

JimB2 · Jul 23, 2019

Hi Grandpa, we had one for about 10 years or so. Traded up from a worn out IH #46 to #47. I didn't like the #47 as well as #46 as the #47 had a short pole and the one piece PTO so you couldn't turn as sharp on the corners. The knotters had the usual early IH knotter problems, keep the twine knife sharp, sensitive to quality of twine, no thick and thin spots and clean all the hay chaff and twine bits out of the knotter everyday or every time you add a ball of twine. On ours the outside knotter liked plastic twine and the inside liked sisal twine. My brother traded it in on an IH #430 with "All Twine" knotters and they rarely missed a bale on either sisal or plastic. A neighbor retired from farming and my brother bought his IH #435 "All Twine" baler that has a wider pickup and more capacity than the #430.

BarnyardEngineering · Jul 23, 2019

It's a love/hate thing. These balers either tend to work and run forever, OR they don't work and can't be fixed.

JimB2 · Jul 23, 2019

SV, does your IH #440 have the "All Twine" knotters? I noticed in the photo it has the long pole with the two piece PTO that I kie for turning sharp corners without PTO chatter.

SVcummins · Jul 23, 2019

That? seems to be the Consensus not many guys
no much about them if they won?t work

JOCCO · Jul 23, 2019

Grandpa get me some knotter pictures and I can tell you more. What others said on the hitch and pto shaft is very true. On many of the Ih balers there is lots of parts interchange. Also check the pick up head clutch. (you should go through that)not a big deal. Quite a few IH balers around me and they baled lots of hay 45 was the one to run from. Also they like to run slower than pto speed like 350 instead of 540.

dhermesc · Jul 23, 2019

At this stage of the game it about has to work or else it would have been parked outside rusting away. Lots of salvage balers out there to strip parts off of.

If it has the "all twine" knotters retrofitted on the baler its probably pretty good. The original knotters on those balers were not very good and could drive a person to drink if they decided not to work. If the old man had bales of hay on the farm most likely they came from this baler. I have a 47 wire tie baler - it is not near the capacity of the 276 New Holland that replaced it in the starting lineup. The early 440 balers were similar to the 47 in capacity - the later 440 balers and 445 balers would be similar to the 276 New Hollands.

If it can make a bale and tie it that baler would be cheap for NE Kansas even as rough looking as it is. I watched a 46 baler that had been used the summer before (it worked) bring a $1200 at auction. I sold a 46 baler that would only tie on one side (guaranteed) and the guy gave me $200 cash and a cheap handgun for it (Bersa .40 cal).

SVcummins · Jul 23, 2019

This one is an all twine . And I didn?t realize they had a one piece shaft available on these . This one you can turn pretty sharp without much chatter I did turn to sharp the other night and blew a shear pin

ArleninOr · Jul 23, 2019

Buy the mower and keep looking for a baler. Mowers like that bring 1800 to 2500 dollars here.

grayrider · Jul 23, 2019

Good buy on the cutter

old · Jul 23, 2019

If he got the cutter he would then have to buy a tractor that is big enough to run it. I think his biggest is an Oliver 77 which is not big enough

r.w.b. · Jul 23, 2019

Every adjustment is done via shims too

coshoo · Jul 23, 2019

IH 47 is not the most miserable baler ever (that honor goes to the IH 45), but its right up in there. Look for a New Holland. But buy the mower- its a steal. But as someone else said, you may not have enough power to use it. Needs about 40 HP, and a good 3 point hitch.

Absent Minded Farmer · Jul 23, 2019

Well, it's a 47.... if they're not bullet proof, they need to be shot. Mine has payed for itself a while ago, so I have no complaints. I don't know that I would give more than half of what they are asking for the baler pictured. Those knotters best be near new for that price. No thrower, either. No good. The mower looks ok for the price. Things could get expensive if one or more pods are bad.... & hairy if you can't find parts. Kind of reminds me of a Vicon. Maybe a Taarup?

Mike

HuskerLyn · Jul 23, 2019

That is a good price on that disc mower, you better check the shells for play, and the gear box. But in reading about your collection of tractors I don?t believe you got the ponies under the hood in any of your tractors to lift or run it.

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