Old IH Bulldozer

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Stoneman44

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• Jun 1, 2019

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The son-in-law and I took a little woods walk this afternoon on my neighbor's land. We've hunted here for the past 4-5 years, but we'd never ventured past the 160 acre parcel the neighbor so kindly lets us hunt. We made it to just about the middle of the 400 acre farm and there, in a clearing, sat this. It's an old IH 8-cylinder, gas dozer. Don't know how long it's been there, but it's been a while. As you can see, it's nearly sunk to the side rails. Was a nice surprise to find on a not so good day. Can any of you experts give some details on model #, year(s) of manufacture, etc.?

 

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d9gdon

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• Jun 1, 2019

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Look again, that should be a six cylinder and even though it has spark plugs in it, it should be a diesel engine that starts on gasoline and has a unique system to switch over to diesel as it's running. Then at the end of the day, you are supposed to switch over to gasoline after letting it idle to cool off so that you can start it the next morning.

I would think that it's about a TD15 size machine, but i am not too familiar with IH's. I'm very familiar with Cat machines though.

Some of the IH dozers were infamous for the final drive gears being made from glass.

 

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Stoneman44

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• Jun 1, 2019

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Thanks for the insight. I saw the distributor, wrongly assumed it was a gasoline engine. I guess I should have thought of that, as I know IH had tractors w/ such a system. I was wondering why someone would have just left it there, maybe the "glass" final drive is my answer? Lord knows you couldn't tow it anywhere!! It's @ least a 1/2 mile to ANY civilization from where it's sitting.

 

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fastfarmall

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• Jun 2, 2019

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Well it was cheaper, the company was on a mission to save money!

 

rustred

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• Jun 2, 2019

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looks like a TD14. built from 1939 to 1957 . the later ones were TD14A.they are a 4 cyl. gas start diesel.

 

rustred

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• Jun 2, 2019

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the next one is the TD18 which has a 6 cyl, twin exhaust pipes. it looks too old to be the TD15. there is also a TD9 smaller than the td14. the big guy is the TD24.

 

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Dean

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• Jun 2, 2019

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Friend of mine had a TD18, two TD9s and two or three TD6s.

Like everything that he ever owned, he destroyed all of them and cut them up for scrap about 15 years ago.

Dean

 

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GreenEnvy

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• Jun 2, 2019

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What are the differences between a 14 and 14A? Grandpa started farming with a Cat D4 and then moved up to a TD 14 in the late 40s. He traded it in for a 14A in 1953 and we still have it.

 

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55 50 Ron

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• Jun 2, 2019

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If you walk there again, search for a serial number, model number tag. I'm curious as usual as to where this machine is located. Thanks

 

jm.

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• Jun 2, 2019

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Rusted does it not look too long to be a td14, and no two exhaust so not a td 18, mabe a early td15, does have a front mounted pump.

 

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55 50 Ron

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• Jun 2, 2019

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I looked on the YT Member map and see the location is probably in Indiana.

 

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Stoneman44

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• Jun 2, 2019

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Yes 55-50 Ron. I'm located in Southern Indiana, just outside of the town of Bedford. About 70 miles South of Indy & 70 miles Northwest of Louisville, KY.

 

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Dean

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• Jun 2, 2019

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My friend, mentioned below, is in Dearborn County, near Cincinnati, Oh.

Dean

 

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Fritz Maurer

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• Jun 2, 2019

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That could be a TD18 real easy. There's no way to tell from the photo whether the front stack is broke off.

 

rustred

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• Jun 2, 2019

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here is my TD14A 1953. it is not a long unit

 

rustred

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• Jun 2, 2019

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yes it could be an 18 , u should have checked whether it was a 6 cyl in it

 

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Bret4207

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• Jun 2, 2019

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That doesn't look like it's been there all that long. If the exhaust is capped it might well be a running machine.

 

Janicholson

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• Jun 2, 2019

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We owned a TD 18A with a TD 20 engine, I think it is a 14. Jim

 

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Rex Simpkins

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• Jun 2, 2019

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Clean the points, get her some gas and a battery and you could be working her in half a day

 

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55 50 Ron

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• Jun 2, 2019

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I'm intrigued by the comment about glass bull gears. Is that for real?

 

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Stoneman44

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• Jun 3, 2019

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(quoted from post at 19:08:46 06/02/19) I'm intrigued by the comment about glass bull gears. Is that for real?

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I took it as he meant they broke easily, like glass.

 

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oldtanker

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• Jun 3, 2019

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(quoted from post at 19:08:46 06/02/19) I'm intrigued by the comment about glass bull gears. Is that for real?

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Ron, in days gone by describing part of a machine, normally a robust machine, that was prone to breakage glass "parts" were commonly refereed to.

Some of the old IH dozers had "glass bull gears" while others had "glass final drives" and yet others were OK machines. All of the gas start diesels, both wheeled and tracked had head cracking issues if they were not shut down properly.

Rick

 

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d9gdon

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• Jun 4, 2019

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(quoted from post at 07:56:53 06/03/19)

(quoted from post at 19:08:46 06/02/19) I'm intrigued by the comment about glass bull gears. Is that for real?

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I took it as he meant they broke easily, like glass.

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Yeah, that's what I meant.

Just supposedly its Achilles heel...possibly from abuse.

 

RedMF40

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• Jun 4, 2019

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Neighbor probably has more information on the dozer than anyone here. Maybe ask about it? Might even make it yours if you can revive it where it sits and drive it out of there. Doesn't look like anyone has big plans for it.