Soybeans planted on soybeans with anhydrous ammonia

andy r

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I had hoped there would be an opening to plant corn. Around my area in Washington County, Iowa, tractors haven't moved for about one month. There is corn in the ground and well up, but mostly larger farmers who have to start early. Those of us who were waiting 5 to 6 days after ammonia was applied never got a chance to start. The ground is full of water and this week looks to be continued wet. I am thinking it could be the middle of June before any planting is done considering that it does stop raining. Maybe after June 15th my best option is to plant all soybeans. I hate to do it, but I know I can still raise 45 to 50 bushel beans. So, a couple questions. 1) In Eastern Iowa what is your experience with corn planted between June 15th and the 4th of July? What potential is left? I know Iowa State says one bushel loss per acre per day after May 10th. The nitrogen is already on. 2) How are soybeans going to do on prior soybean ground with 160 pounds of anhydrous ammonia applied? I would guess they could grow to 6' tall. If I selected a soybean variety with the best lodging score I am sure that would help. Maybe something that would bush and not be quite as tall. I feel really sorry for some neighbors who need 800 acres of corn to feed hogs that they have to take from a sow cooperative. They basically have just started planting corn. Sounds like they are planting corn no matter how late it gets. I hope they come to their senses and realize it can get too late.
 
I would think most of the ammonia has been soaked out, so no issue on beans.

Bean prices are in the toilet, but better than nothing I guess.
 
I remember when I was in junior high back in the late 60's we had hail around July 4th. The corn and soybeans were replanted on that farm sometime after the 4th. The corn made 70 bushel per acre and the soybeans made 30 bushels per acre. I can't remember what the growing season was like the rest of the year. October beans at my elevator were $7.78 on Friday. I would think if one was to plant soybeans you would want to lock in a portion at that level. If more soybeans get planted along with the inventory they will go lower. Resolving the China issue will help some. Problem is their swine herd has been hurt and they have developed new suppliers. Who knows what the government payment will be. Was talk of $2.00 a bushel.
 
I think most of the ammonia is still there. Our rains have never been all that large in inches. It just rains enough to keep it muddy. .3, .75, maybe 2 inches. The ammonia had N-serve on it as well. I would agree there has been some loss.
 
Just sit tight and wait until you can get into the field. You can plan and plan and plan but until you you turn that key, you are just wearing yourself out. A lot of good corn in Iowa has been planted in June. You just gotta wait it out. All soybeans this year will be all corn next and with the trade war and ASF, we could be $2 and that ain't gonna work either.
Plan your work and work your plan.
 
I have planted field corn up until June 8-9th. In 1993 I had two fields planted on June 7th that made 200 bushel. It all depends on what the weather does from here on. I would still plant corn for another week or so. Your a little further south than I am so that helps a little too. Do not switch to a supper short season corn either. 100-105 day corn will still make it. The 90 day stuff usually does not yield very well.

Soybeans are a sure lost at the current prices. Plus the extra nitrogen will just grow foliage not pods.
 
I had a field of corn green snap real bad mid June back in the 90s. I replanted on the 29th of June (I remember because it's my wife's birthday). I think I used something like 105 day maturity. Had another wind storm in November before I got it picked and it blew down kinda bad but still made 140+ bushels per acre, 22% moisture. That was pretty good corn for back then. Would translate to 180+ with our current varieties I'd think. I'd still plant corn instead of beans till July if it was me. Mahaska county - Oskaloosa area.
 
Old farmer told me once, if all of your neighbors are in the same boat as you plant as planed,if you have been goofing off and didn't do the work then leave the seed in the sack. I think everything here was planted in four days,and n0w we need a week just to dry out.
 
Do you have crop insurance? If so check with your agent before doing anything. May 31 is a deadline for corn "in NW Iowa anyway".

Talked with a friend who is a adjuster and one of the takeaways I got from him is if I take Prevented Plant I could only hay or graze after Nov 1 off that ground, whatever I put out there. I will know more tomorrow coz my agent has been on vacation over the extended weekend.

I did do switched acres some years back 2012 I think. Got rained out on corn May 17 that year and wound up switching to beans for the rest of what was gonna be corn. All beans were planted in the last day or June and first 3 days of July. As I was planting I was questioning not taking PP that year but hope always springs eternal. Wish I had listened to the part of my gut that was questioning what I was doing. Did have a crop but to say it covered cost of production probably not.

jt
 

My dairy farmer neighbors used to always plant late, and rarely sprayed. They tended to harvest more insurance payments than they did corn.
 
Andy-My son took over the farm 5 years ago and we were talking the other day about every farmer has a year they remember-his will be 2019-mine was 1982. We had our nh-3 on and had our corn herbicide on-Monsanto had a thing called surface-blend-a shallow incorporation of Lasso + Atrazine so we had to plant corn--Nobody turned a wheel in May around here-got back in the field June 6th. Could not get any earlier corn so I planted what I had-Pioneer 3732 and 3780. NEVER, NEVER, Never I told myself will I again plant corn in June again! We joke about it now--Finally got 82's bills paid in 2012. Called it our 40-40-40 corn-40 bu. per acre-40% moisture-40 lb. test weight. Crap wouldn't keep and nobody wanted it. The cob on the 3732 was green and rubbery. The elevator in Westgate had a 100,000 bu. bin (big back then) catch on fire from spontaneous combustion. They took a long reach excavator and peeled it open to put the smoldering crap out. We are 125 mi. North of you and the hybrids are better now and it depends on the weather and when the first frost hits. Soooooo-that is my experience with June planted corn--Did I say NEVER again? We did not have crop insurance then so GOOD LUCK to you and keep us informed-My Son still has 140 acres of beans to plant but there is a lot of corn to be planted around here--God be with you Andy---Tee
 

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