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This sort of sucks!!

A

Adirondack case guy

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I finished plowing last years corn ground today. Then started plowing under un-harvested beans from last year. We had too much rain last fall for the beans to dry and lots of snow during the winter that drove them flat onto the ground. We checked some of the bean pods and the beans were also all moldy inside.
I did a little tweeking on the colters today so the plow would roll all the plants under. We will now plant beans again for the second year, due to the high probability of volunteer germination of last years crop.
Loren
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I guess so, not getting the harvest sold against the cost of planting it does suck. I was past your area not long ago, saw some standing corn not harvested somewhere along the thruway.

That plow does a nice job, bet the seat time was enjoyable too.
 
Which model/year Case are you using to plow? Is that a Case plow? How many bottoms?

Do you only run Case tractors?

Thanks!
Bill
 
I will be at least 2 weeks before I can even think of getting into the field haven?t checked any of the fields at home to see if any alfalfa is growing here yet or not planted dry land pasture mix of some fields with a mix of about 6 different clovers also inter seeded some alfalfa into some old pasture I cut for hay. I would hate to have to leave any crop in the field that?s for sure
 
Ya, great job plowing. I see your plow has one of those nitrogen tanks. My rollover plow has one. I am hoping they maintain their charge. And I am hoping I do not have to re-pressurize the oil side of that system. Do you have to re-pressurize the system each year?

Paul
 
Billy; We are on US Rt.20, 55 miles west of Albany. There are a lot of last years crops still in the field here. The 931 that I am plowing with, I sold new in 1969 to the father of a local BTO.
He has lost 250A of beans and is still trying to combine some of last years corn. I have heard that the corn has also molded in the husks.
I hope he can make it, as he went heavily into debt last year with land purchases and equipment upgrades.
Loren
 
Yes, it is good practice to relax the pressure on the hydraulic side of the accumulator so the nitrogen filled blatter is not squished in the tank during winter storage. This plow requires a 1250# pre-charge of nitrogen and I can apply 300# over that--1550# on the reset/hydraulic side gauge.
Loren
 
A lot of misery left from last year around here, too. The lucky guys were the ones who had insurance and the crop went flat before the end of the insurance period. I had insurance but the adjuster said I had too many standing beans at the end of the coverage period. Still trying to clean up as of today. Extremely stressful currently.
 
The plow that I am pulling is a CASE model 8358 hydraulic reset plow. It is 5B with 18" Radex conversion bottoms on it. This was the last model of high clearance plow that Case built, before marketing the Oliver/White built plows.
The 1969 931 that I pull it with has been rebuilt with 1/8" over bore sleeves and pistons and is now has a 426cu.in 5" stroke engine, with a tweeked pump. My limiting factor power wise, is the cooling system. I monitor that very closely.
Loren
 
Yes, always moldboard plow around here. TOO much limestone ledge rock around here for chisel plows. The No-Till guy are growing decent crops, but that ground is getting badly compacted and will be difficult to address in the future with limited soil depth above the bed rock.
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Just a small example of what we bring up when working up over the ledges.
Loren
 
Did the adjuster check any of the pods??? We had mildew in the pods last fall. The mills were rejecting a lot of beans for that reason last fall.
Loren
 
Nice plowing we still have a few snowbanks melting into the water sitting in our fields.

I would always plant corn into that, lot of free N from the beans, and it?s mighty easy killing beans in a corn crop. Always!

Paul
 
We did not have white mold or mildew last fall surprisingly. Guys are starting to draw in crops to the elevators from last fall's harvest where they could get at the crop. Lots of issues concerning molds and toxins but at this point there is no insurance coverage. As I understand it a farmer would have had to drawn in the crop during the coverage period to get covered for rejected crops. The only criteria my adjuster was interested in was standing crop versus flattened crop relative to my coverage. Myself along with others are finding out there are cracks to fall through in the crop insurance system. Trouble is if you want money to work with for this spring you had better have crop insurance or you may not get financed. Very stressful times.
 
So I was not seeing things, that last trip out to Rochester and back the same day, a bit heavy on the hours that week overall, I wasn't imagining standing corn then, or downed soybean either. That is rough going, I too would hope and wish the best outcome.
I remember my long time neighbor, friend and farmer negotiating the curves after a similar event, his was a fire. Somehow he managed.

That is a neat connection with the 931, kind of a cool ride having sold it new. Looks like a good fit to this plow.
I was able to obtain a tractor sold new by our place originally, traded in, re-sold. Still has our sticker on it, not in bad shape, motor runs great. Sort of an nostalgic added feature to have one years later that you sold new.
 
Loren,

GRIN

Hubby always "by-eyed" plowing too, and always had a nice straight furrow.

What little bit I ever plowed with our Regular... I didn't do too badly eyeing it.
 
Wow, I have never had crop insurance but it seams screwed up if you have insurance, paid the premium, suffered a loss and can't get the payment.
 
There isn't a rock or clay to be seen in that ground! I could pull 6 bottoms with the 105 white in that ground I bet! 4 gives her all it wants in My ground.
 
neighbor was doing vertical tillage in one field his nephew was putting on ammonia in a different field today I haven't seem much happing for field work this was on higher ground still lots of wet spots in most feilds
 
I agree with paul. Plant it to corn The volunteer beans in corn will never be a problem.Second year beans can cause disease problems in the beans that will haught bean crops for many years to come.
 
It must be awfull easy plowing,because you don't have nearlly enough tractor(weight wise)to be pulling 5-16s or 18s.You are lacking about 3-4000 lbs.what is normally used for that size plow or chisel load.
 
No offense ACG but it always amazes me how terms or phrases like suck or sucks sneak their way into our everyday vocabulary. Twenty years ago I think it was something that kids originated in 7th grade as an everyday expression, and now we hear politicians using it, our admired athletes, and almost anyone else. I still find it offensive and to me, it's worse than a lot of mild swear words. Say for example that someone ripped off the church collection for some money and a discussion was happening. Would it be appropriate to stand up in church and say, "Well that sure sucks?" Or how about your young kid coming home from school and using it, only to learn that the teacher uses it. Just my two cents ....
 
Well, like most words in the English language they have multiple meanings. I guess your interpretation of the word is different than mine.---Loren
 
I know what you're saying and won't dispute your point of view. I just find it a somewhat strange way to say that something is not acceptable or whatever. Who knows where it came from? You or I never heard it used 25 years ago, it's a recent arrival in a long list of terms or phrases describing something that a person finds repulsive or negative.
 
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