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It doesn't take much to kick a door in, even if you have a dead bolt. So I added a dead pipe to my pole barn door.
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I attached a small wire to right end of pipe which runs outside.
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Slowly pull on wire , left side of pipe comes out of hole, falls on floor.

So far no one has tried to hick in the door.
 
Exit out overhead door. No windows in pole barn. That door is only used if electricity is off and garage door opener doesn't work.
 
> Exit out overhead door. No windows in pole barn. That door is only used if electricity is off and garage door opener doesn't work.

A smart burglar will just jack up the corner of your overhead door and slip under it. Much easier than kicking down a door.
 
Not on my overhead doors. Maybe that could happen on some cheaper doors but I'd have to see that to believe it.
 
The only person I might advise of any invention like this would be my theft insurance agent. Why advertise your efforts on the world wide web?
 
Lol

My bad. Make that a $4 claw hammer.

I can remember looking at new houses with my son. The sales man ranted how energy efficient the home was. I said yea but I could break in with a razor knife.
The studded walls had vinyl siding and sheet styrofoam on one side and Sheetrock on the other.
 
> Not on my overhead doors. Maybe that could happen on some cheaper doors but I'd have to see that to believe it.

I don't recommend trying it. Even on industrial-grade doors, if you get a 5 ton floor jack under the door, something is going to give.
 
George if someone does break in somewhere else in the building you can show your insurance company the door to prove you at least tried to make it burglar proof.
 
My wife always frets about the walk-in doors to the garage at our house having windows, and says we should put bars over the windows.

I ask her, "Why?"

Even with dead bolt locks, a well placed foot would be all it would take to open the door. All a lock does is keep an honest man honest.
 
I also have a battery backup motion sensor that sets off an alarm. A bird will trigger the alarm .

Nothing is 100% safe. Never had a break in. Don't make it easy either.

Neighbor has an alarm system that calls him and his mother if there's a problem.

If I ever had a break in I would look into it.

So far, I'm 70 and never had a break in.
 
my old high school Ag teacher was fond of saying, "All a lock does is keeps the honest people out, but it doesn't hurt to make it as difficult as possible for the dishonest ones, either. All ya gotta do is slow em down long enough to grab the shotgun". (smile) Our high school Ag teacher was the coolest guy I ever knew.
 
In a house application, a dead bolt in a steel door is only secure if the door frame is also steel. A wooden door frame (unless really beefed up which would be unlikely in a house) is the weak link ..... and have some have said, a good kick gains immediate entry.
 
I did something like that to our door going into the garage at the cabin, so now I have to unlock the overhead door first. We were broken into about 15 years ago, by some dumb local kids, they took gas cans, left valuable tools, got caught right away.
 
I have reinforced the door jambs on all of my man doors. I pulled the trim off the inside of the door. Took my router and mortised out a section of the door jambs and the frame studs big enough to take a piece of 3/16 flat bar. Screwed the flat bar in with a dozen or so screws. Kicking the doors here will be a little harder. But, there are also all the windows... Nothing is totally secure ever. If someone wants in bad enough they could take a chainsaw and make a plunge cut through the wall. When I was 10 someone broke into our house while we were on a trip. My father went on a security trip with dead bolts and reinforced doors and the inevitable alarm system. That break in left a powerful paranoia in me for keep my own home more secure.

OTJ
 
Do you live in such a bad area that you have to have extra "security" to feel safe? I don't lock up much of anything except my front door. The only reason I do that is to keep the casual visitor from just walking in.

If there is anything in my home, garage, or car that somebody wants, I would rather they just take it than to damage other things to get to it. Better yet, just ask me for it. I might just give it to you!
 
When my FIL was in the NYC police department he said they did tests on breaking in doors. They had an machine gun expert from France shoot out locks but 12ga slugs worked much better. He said the one thing they couldn't defeat, without ripping apart the whole door, was a jack bar (receptacle in floor with angled bar to receptacle at lock).
 
I like it, but when you have a sheet metal building they can just unscrew the wall an get in
 
When I lived in the "inner city" I built a small workshop above my garage. Having had my house burgled I was determined to protect my tools. The windows were barred. I framed the door with 4x6s. I built the door with some tongue and groove 2x6s with z-braced 2x6s on the back. I installed a deadbolt lock with the bolt sliding into a 1" pipe recessed into one of the 4x6s. Hinges were bolted to the door and the 4x6 pillar on the other side.

I felt very secure until one night a hopped-up homey dug the lock out of the door with a tire tool--my own tire tool. Fortunately he made enough noise he woke me up, so I called the cops and they caught him in the act. A bold, determined thief will find a way.
 
We have 18 buildings on the property. Only 4 have anything of value. Only 2 have anything that a typical thief would be interested in. We don?t lock anything including the house. What we have is one older germen Shepherd who is very protective and still quite formidable. He does well with my neighbors and the kids around our place especially the kids he is pretty protective of the kids. He sleeps in the mud room on the barn side of the house. Anything out of The ordinary he comes to full attention. I suppose if someone shot him they could walk of with the place I not to sure how many thief?s would be willing to kill him for a bunch of pawn items. But if he felt someone posed threat I would hate to be his target.
 
Question for ya George: Had anyone tried to kick in the door BEFORE you added your pipe?

Another question: Did you advertise to the local hooligans inviting them to come and try to kick down your door? "Hey, George in Terre Haute here, I just put a pipe across the walk in door on my pole barn. Come on out and try to kick it in." And the hooligans were like, "Oh no, a pipe! Our only weakness!."

Then you go advertising what you did, and how to defeat it, on an Internet forum...
 
Lake cabin, east Alabama, After the storm door was pried open, a neat nice square opening was cut into the entrance door with a battery saw of some
kind and whomever just crawled in and out.
Storm door was closed back so hole could not be seen from the
road.
 
Yes, I had a tenant kick the front door in. I learned dead bolts and door locks are for show. As some
said, keeps honest people honest. The metal door isn't very strong. The wood frame work is weakened by
drilling holes for latch and dead bolt.

How much do you and others want to bet no one can post the address where this pole barn is located?

I thought for sure some would like to know what I did, Instead there seems to be a lot of negative posts
and post went sideways form make door more secure to siding and jacking up overhead door.

The H**** with trying to be helpful.
 
Pretty good idea. Just curious about the wire though. It must be hidden outside somewhere correct so it can be opened from the outside ? Never been broken into, but a few years ago a bunch of people in neighboring town's had been. They were even taking spare change out of unlocked vehicles.
 
Geese George;;; I have no locked doors. Anyone who would be brave enough to try to steel from my shop, would break his neck negotiating all the stuff stacked around. You need to accumulate more clutter to deter the villeins. HeHe.
Loren
 
I agree! He just showed his set up,did not ask everyone to tell him how they would break in! Someone could just take an excavator and rip the wall out.
 
Definitely an improvement. We make forced entry, blast resistant doors and up to level 8 bullet resistant doors, there's a lot that goes into it. We have state dept approval on one of our products.

Some heavy stuff, one has to build the building to accommodate. I've thought of heavier doors for the house, but the windows or some other means would negate any justification to do so.

It's amazing what thieves will do, a friend got hit a few weeks back, got all his bows, guns/gun safe, dragged a his big hole heavy gun safe across his hardwood floors, gouging it and walls, loaded into his car in the garage and took off. He finally got the car back. State police investigated for 10 hours at his house. He was on vacation with wife and daughter when it happened. He also wears a badge and carrys, Brazen thieves today
 

Here ya go Geo will it keep someone who's dedicated to get'N in... NO but will make them work for it... I hope it keeps them busy enoufh they will need to pack a lunch to get that door open... That's all you can do is make it harder maybe they will give up and go to the neighbors shop....


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I can say this as fact , the back door of THIS OLD HOUSE is about as break in Proof as they come . Many years back i came home on a Tuesday evening and was wolfen down supper and told the War Dept that i needed to run to tractor supply and get a new pair of winter gloves for the sale the next morning and happened to asked if she had heard from my grandmother ,War Dept. stops and thinks for a second and said NO not since Sunday evening . Grandma Always called to complain about something or needed this or that . I finished up supper and said i was going to swing by the house it was only a little out of the way . You could set your clock by what time of the day it was by what lights were on in Grandma house . As i was coming up the street i did not see the living room lights on or the one light in the dining room . This is not good . So i pulled in and went to the pantry door as i had a key for it and got in BUT the door to the kitchen was LOCKED with and old fashioned style lock that used one of them old keys . I pounded on the door and got no response and the key was still in the lock from the inside . I tried the kick the door in thing , NOPE then we tried the hit it for all your worth shoulder deal five times and bounced off five times . to get in i had to resort to the tool box and take the knob off and face plate and with two pair of vice grips reach in with the needle nose ones and grab the end of the key and with the second pair in the shaft i got the door open and inside getting lights turned on and found her out cold between the bath tub and wall . She was still alive call the paramedics and may dad , War Dept to go get my gloves and bring them to the Hospitle . The ER dr. said she was a bit dehydrated and a nasty bump on the head and they were going to keep her a couple days . So i go to get four hours sleep before i had to go to the sale . That old back door and it's frame work is as tough as steel . I ended up with this old house and the wood in this house is hard on modern day tools when one trys to drill or cut.
 
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