RR lund tractor question

JOCCO

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You never mention Allis, MM, or cockshutt. Wondering what the status was on them around you. Pretty big sellers and widely collected around me. I am quite sure they outsold Case in the early days. Masey Harris sold big but took a nose dive when they went to Ferguson for quite a few years. Also they seemed to be in the potato area the most. It was funny because you see these "pockets" where some brand sold big but say north of that area you would see Massey harris vs cockshutt. Of course later years collectors shuffled things around.
 
Allis was probably the number one seller around here in the 40s and 50s,unless the 8N and 9N Fords were number one,but there were sure a lot of ACs. The WCs and WDs sold like hotcakes. If you ever read the book "Plow Peddler" you know they'd give a contract to just about anybody who could sign their name,so there were a lot of dealers for them.


Percy Knight sold Cockshutt for just a few years before White bought them out. There were a good number of 560 and 570s around here. A neighbor bought a new 540 from him. Our club featured them two years ago and had a fair number of them turn up.


MM was kind of a rarity. There was a dealer over 20 miles or so east and one about 30 miles south,but I only remember two BTOs here who had them. They both had UBs and pulled four bottom plows with them. That was something that was unheard of at the time.
 
In S.E. Michigan, Ford tractors were everywhere. Ford employees and suppliers could buy one at a discount, on a payroll deduction scheme. There was a Ford dealer in Wayne, a AC dealer in Wixom, and a JD guy there somewhere. I think Ford sold more than all others combined.
 
I think there was talk of that in Plow Peddler too. The author of it was blockman for AC in eastern Michigan and NW Ohio.


The first tractor I ever had was an Allis Chalmers C. I bought it from the elementary school janitor when I was nine years old. Dad had one here for just a little while that I wish I had back. It was an RC. I guess those are pretty rare. From what I remember,they were a WC with a C engine. Way underpowered,so not a big seller.
 
RR not wholly true on the rc. they had a lower rear end gear than WC. Yes they were an odd duck that did not make it. Not exactly rare 5500 made and yes I would like to have one too. C and Ca allis were great little tractors, I have a the CA. As for cockshutt they tapered off here not as many 540 570 or the oliver clones 1550 etc. The earlier ones were more popular.
 
Yes that U series was quite a horse in its day wasn't it!! A little jealous are we?
 
The only other thing I saw pull four bottoms at the time was one that somebody put together by hooking two JD As together.
 
We had several AC dealers around here, too. There were a bazillion W series AC's around here for many years. Even more of the D series. By the 190 series, they were starting to get eclipsed by other brands.

Our families first tractor was a Fordson. Pop said the only good thing about it was that it was a million times better than horses (Pop didn't care much for work horses). He then bought an unstyled WC, then a styled WC. said they were a million times better than the Fordson, but still weren't much of a tractor. He then bought a Farmall M and said that was a million times better than the WC's, but he thought they had a poor gear spacing and used too much gas. Then he swapped the M for an Oliver 88 diesel. Pop said, "Now THAT was a tractor". At th time I was mad at him for 2 or three years. I thought the M was a much better looking tractor. I liked the red color much better than the green. I didn't like the look of the side curtains, either. However, since I was 4 years old at the time, I didn't have much say in the matter. LOL!!
 
He didn't have that RC very long. About all I remember him doing with it was hauling manure one winter. God only knows what he traded it for. He jockeyed a lot of them for a while there.
 
I guess technically,the first tractor here was my great grand dad on my grandmother's side. He had a thresher and ran it with a Waterloo Boy. The Oliver 70 replaced the horses right here at home though. Uncle Claud traded that off on a Shepard,then traded the Shepard for an Oliver 88 diesel.

Dad had an F12 for just a short time before he went in the Marines in WW2. He bought an Allis B when he got home,then traded that for an 8N Ford,and traded the 8N for the Oliver 66.
 
My Dad was a farmer/dealer for AC in the 30s. Kept the last one he ordered. Styled WC, 1939, sn 77717. (Haven"t found it yet)
 
Probably only hauled manure one year in the winter because he darned near froze to death because it took so long. I have one. It's geared so low that you can almost walk past it when it's in high gear. I have one. Nice little tractor but slow and gutless.
 

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