Need Alice Chalmers info

Thank you for letting me join your forum. I hope I can get some help from you all. Im researching two family Allis Chalmers tractors. The first one I was told is a 1948. Has a front handcrank plus a battery hookup. I have a few pics of it with stamped numbers. The second is a WD45 its in the 1950s. Dont know exactly. Thats what I want to find out. I have pictures of it as well. I also have some farm implements too. Most are for the older tractor. Double plow, disk, etc. Can you tell me where I can look to find information on them please?
 
(quoted from post at 01:01:51 03/19/19) Thank you for letting me join your forum. I hope I can get some help from you all. Im researching two family Allis Chalmers tractors. The first one I was told is a 1948. Has a front handcrank plus a battery hookup. I have a few pics of it with stamped numbers. The second is a WD45 its in the 1950s. Dont know exactly. Thats what I want to find out. I have pictures of it as well. I also have some farm implements too. Most are for the older tractor. Double plow, disk, etc. Can you tell me where I can look to find information on them please?

post all pictures here and we can help too!
 
I cant either, it's the administrator has to see the pic first i think, and then he lets them go threw, i have heard other say give it time!!
 
" I have a few pics of it with stamped numbers. The second is a WD45 its in the 1950s. Dont know exactly. Thats what I want to find out. I have pictures of it as well."

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Until you can figure out how to post the pictures, look for the "tractor" serial numbers.
The "tractor" number is located on a smooth "boss" on the left rear of the differential housing just below the brake spring hole.
The "tractor" serial numbers for both the WD and the WD-45 begin with WD.

The "engine" serial number is located on the side of the block behind (but still visible) the carburetor.
The WD engine Ser.# will start with WD.
The WD-45 engine Ser.# will start with 45.[/u]
 
Below this forum there is sub forums related to each brand. Allis is at the top also post there. Just scroll down.
 
No the administrator does not have to see the pic first. Where did you get that wierd idea??? One has to scroll down a bit from where he made comments and click on Choose Files, find your picture that you want to post and click on it. A thumb nail pic will come up and above it is says Total files uploaded when it finishes up loading it. It sometimes takes a bit of time to up-load depending on your internet service and others uploading pictures here. It takes a bit of patience sometimes.
 
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Also, it's "Allis Chalmers," not any combination of Alice, Allice, Chambers, Charmers or Challmers.

Auto-correct just loves to mess with Allis Chalmers for some reason. You need to proofread and tell it who's boss sometimes. Once "Allis Chalmers" is in your dictionary, though, should be easy sailing.
 
If the two tractors are similar in design, I"ll guess that the non-WD is a WC...hand brakes, no hyd? Serial number is stamped on the differential, starts with WC Could also be a WF or RC tractor. They also would have hand brakes, no hyd. WD/WD45 serial number is also stamped on the differential, left side, vertical face. Serial numbers are always stamped...not raised numbers in the casting...they are casting numbers.
 
(quoted from post at 05:15:36 03/19/19) Also, it's "Allis Chalmers," not any combination of Alice, Allice, Chambers, Charmers or Challmers.

Auto-correct just loves to mess with Allis Chalmers for some reason. You need to proofread and tell it who's boss sometimes. Once "Allis Chalmers" is in your dictionary, though, should be easy sailing.

Yeah I know. I did that by accident! :oops: I know how to spell the tractor name. I had my phone do that too! Lol Thank you for your help! It’s really appreciated.
 
Want to sell her plus my Uncles WD45. That’s why I’m trying to find info on them. Then get an idea what to sell them for! They don’t run, but the WD45 ran and drove to where it’s parked. So it will most likely run again. The WD45 has a hay mower hooked on it. It goes with the tractor. Have a double plow, disk, rake and mower that goes with grandpas lil Allis. A new Goodyear rear 11.2 24 tire also. It has surface slimy type mold on it from sitting outside, but it’s never been used. Two extra rear tire rims.. that kind of stuff.
 
I do know that the other Allis is a WD45. Was my uncles baby! :) I just need to know the year of it. I will put some pictures on here of her.
 
They both look real good! My grandpa and uncle took extremely good care of their tractors and all of their stuff! They had much respect for the equipment that worked for them and helped feed their family. They we’re wonderful men and great farmers. I miss them very much! My other uncle has altzheimers and doesn’t realize, anymore, that he moved these beautiful tractors out of the barn & into the weather. They’ve been outside now for about 5 years or so. Very sad situation. So, his brother, my other uncle and Aunt are having me research all of these things for them and then list for sale. I’m SO greatful I found you all and this site to help me! Thank You so much! I want to do right by my family and the memories of these two tractors!
 
(quoted from post at 20:21:44 03/19/19) I see you are from Washington as well. Western Washington is where I’m at.

I am east of Spokane and own around 90 Allis tractors. Unfortunately they are not a real hot item out here unless there is something special about them....a B will bring about $500 if it runs, WD about $900 and a WD45 maybe $1200 if you can drive it on a trailer.
 
(quoted from post at 20:46:09 03/19/19) Thanks for the information, it’s helpful! Do you know of a good site to research the attachments?
There are some good Allis groups that you can join on FaceBook if you are a subscriber, easy to post pics and questions. Also Allis Chalmers dot com forums. If you can post pics on here I will give you my educated guess. I think the mower on the 45 is an 80R, which could be worth something if it works properly... also the two-way plow for the B might be if the wear parts are in good shape. Here are some pics of mine.
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Two way plows on a B
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Thank you so much! I have to get more pictures of them. My cousin is going to do some weedeating around them. Will make it easier for me! You have a nice group of items.
 
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Two way plows on a B
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Thank you so much! I have to get more pictures of them. My cousin is going to do some weedeating around them. Will make it easier for me! You have a nice group of items.
It’s
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hard to see the plow in this picture. That’s why my cousins going to do some weed eating! Lol
 
Model 52 plow for the WD or WD45 tractor. You might get $150 for it, but likely scrap price at an auction. They are very common. A rollover plow like these would be worth more.
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(quoted from post at 08:25:09 03/20/19) Model 52 plow for the WD or WD45 tractor. You might get $150 for it, but likely scrap price at an auction. They are very common. A rollover plow like these would be worth more.
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A couple of my 52's


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Thanks! So the plow I showed goes on the lil’ Allis with the hand crank. Someone said the lil Allis looks like a “B” model. I want to do right by my family selling this stuff for them. Have a disk, another mower that’s only good for parts, and a rake that goes with the lil Allis as well.
 

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Here is a couple more pictures. The 1st two is the broken mower for parts. Also have 2 rims with crappy tires on them.
 
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Here is a couple more pictures. The 1st two is the broken mower for parts. Also have 2 rims with crappy tires on them.

The plows with the long tongue with the loop on the end go to the big tractor. The sickle mower fits under the little tractor $100-$200 if in good shape with the drive pulley that fits on the back of the tractor. The plow share is actually the plow for the little tractor. The rake isn't an Allis.
 
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Here is a couple more pictures. The 1st two is the broken mower for parts. Also have 2 rims with crappy tires on them.

Oops, I see the pulley for the mower is laying on it...that is worth $50 by itself. Yes the little tractor is a B
 
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Here is a couple more pictures. The 1st two is the broken mower for parts. Also have 2 rims with crappy tires on them.

Oops, I see the pulley for the mower is laying on it...that is worth $50 by itself. Yes the little tractor is a B
That’s the mower that’s broken. So just the pulley is worth $50? Wow!
 
Hi. On the WD45, how much do you think I could sell it for, with or without the mower on it? It ran to where it’s parked now. I figure it’ll run again. Don’t know if the engine seized or no tho.
 
If it has useable tire and will start and run, with the
mower$1500-$2000 to the buyer that wants it. If it
doesn?t run or is stuck, or the tires a junk, it would
be only worth what it weighs at the scrap yard.
Strictly my opinion. Could be worth more $$ if it is a
diesel model, you don?t see many diesel WD45 AC
tractors
 
Ok, ty. It’s not a diesel. I’m really surprised finding out allot of this information. You’d think they’d be worth more than that.
 
(quoted from post at 00:23:49 03/24/19) Ok, ty. It’s not a diesel. I’m really surprised finding out allot of this information. You’d think they’d be worth more than that.

The demand for these old tractors is way down recently. Tractors like your ACs have pretty limited uses these days, especially since they don't have 3 pt. hitches to handle a variety of implements. We used a narrow front WD with a power kit in the early 70s to plow, disk and pull a 4 row planter and pull hay wagons. Today no one has time to fool with such small equipment and make a living, unless you are just a hobby farmer playing around. Parts are getting scarcer and a lot of folks don't want to or can't deal with points ignitions. You have to put way more in a rebuild than the tractor is worth. A set of tires alone will be around $1,000, give or take. If they don't start and run and drive they are basically only worth scrap price, again often too much work and/or cost to get them into useable shape. If you CAN get them to run without a lot of cost and hair pulling, do it.

Just a tip, if you don't get them running, don't advertise them as "ran when parked". That's sort of a joke in the old tractor community meaning it is probably junk.
 
Ok. Thank you. I appreciate the heads up about not posting the ran when parked! I believe my aunt is going to be pretty disappointed about the selling prices. But then I kind of am as well!
 
I’m still having problems trying to find the years of the tractors with the numbers I found.
I found numbers for both tractors. The Allis B had #AM-2787-19, I also saw #99273. So I’m not sure which is the right one. I’ll post picture of the AC WD45.
Help please!

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I found numbers on the tractors. Can you help me identify them? I found 2 sets for each tractor.
The first one for; AC B = AM-2787-10 & second; 99273.
The Ones for the WD45 I have pictures of..

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Sounds like you are still trying to figure out the years of the tractors. If 99273 is a number stamped near the gear shift on the B it should be a 1949, I believe. Tractor data.com has photos of where the stamped serial numbers are located on the B's and WD's (WD45's are in the same place). Search those models on their site and you will find a link to the photo showing the location to look on each one, where they list serial numbers for each model.
HTH
 

You may have to scrape the paint off those areas. The stamped numbers get filled in and are hard to see. Raised casting numbers which you show in your photos are not what you are looking for.
 
Here are clearer photos I found on OK Tractors site of where the serial numbers should be, these may lessen your paint scraping to find the numbers.

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Ok thanks. The one for the B was next to the gear shifter on a flat surface. Thought I had the right spot for the WD45. Poop
 

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