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danofarming
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I think that would have to be proven to me.
lee little
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Someone might but I couldn't. I wouldn't ever want to try. I mowed a lot of hay with one when I was a kid and as a young adult. I really think someone is being overly optimistic.
Janicholson
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Some "hay" can be mown in 4th with an Farmall H. Some in first. I have seen both. Jim
redforlife
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I have ran a relatively modern double hitch with 2 9ft bars. It's possible to mow 70 plus acres with 18 foot swaths with a modern tractor. Don't think it could of been with 2 5 or 7 foot bars on an A or B John Deere. It would have to be one heck of a long day if you could.
Remember what he is talking there is 2 mowers cutting a 14' swath and they figured a 12 hour day at that time. Thin light hay on a smooth field of half mile or more each way for no time lost in turns. Same way they overestimate acreage for everything else. But that outfit speed would have been more like 4MPH and not 5. Same way they would get the 30 to 60 acres a day for a 2 row corn planter.
Roger Tomfohrde
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I pushed 80 acres of oats through a 280 Owatonna swather, 12 foot hydro in 12 hours on contoured fields, 100 foot wide, on a couple close together farms. It took running full tilt on the hydros and with the reel up on standing oats about 3 foot tall. Not sure I would want to do it again but I had over 300 acres to do besides helping milk the cow and feed the hogs. Was going so fast when I came around on the next pass I could smell the skunk I got close to.
Aaron SEIA
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He's pulling 2. That's 14'. At 5 mph that's juts over 8 acres an hour theoretical maximum. Still a long day even in perfect running.
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redforlife
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I have a 9ft. Seems I have heard one time someone produced a 10. Single horse drawn was 3. Double horse drawn was
5. 5 was continued I believe into tractor mounted and grew from there. 7, possibly 8, then 9. One manufacturer
perhaps made a 10.
5. 5 was continued I believe into tractor mounted and grew from there. 7, possibly 8, then 9. One manufacturer
perhaps made a 10.
redforlife
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I am talking about over time in above statement. 5 or 7 was probly longest bar available during time frame of picture in original post.
Did that photo come from some John Deere book? I would bet that the rear mower is a 5 ft. I totally agree with Bob in that this would be a lot of frustration making that work with good efficiency. When I was in high school, dad hooked 2 horse drawn 5 ft mowers together and I got to ride the rear one. I think I'm STILL vibrating from that horrible ride as he was pulling them with a tractor and faster than horses walk !!
Dave H (MI)
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Maybe when they were new, but even so...LONG DAY. You would want to keep a good working grease gun on the tractor along with assorted wrenches, hammer, pry bar, and you still won't have enough tools. These old sickles can be fun to play with if you are careful but I'm not cutting hay with them again. Ever.
redforlife
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I like that thought. Remember growing up running a John Deere mounted number 9 with a 7ft. bar and a pitman stick. Dad would make me run that all day when I was only like 12 or 13. Thought it was neat at the time since Dad was letting me run something. Then he got a new Holland 9ft later on. After running it, I couldn't even believe dad had me running the number 9. Best place for some of them old mowers is on a truck headed for the scrap yard. All the mounted mowers in my opinion need to be in the iron pile.
Elton Fancher
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No.
lee little
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I think you are right SV they still do.
I have helped fill boxes on a 2 row mounted planter on a Farmall H. Us boys had a coal bucket apeace every other round would run and pour our bucket into planter box. Dad would idle along for 10 or 15 ft. Could do 40 acres every day in square fields. Cousin had another rig just like ours, they planted together. 2 rows 40" rows. When the first planter got to the end he turned toward the already planted, the one behind spun on one wheel and went back then the first tractor followed. Changing lead every through. But I will say could never mow over 20 acres a day with a JD B and 7 ft mower. Generally 15. Have to back up to much.
Northvale PA
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I run my NI 5209 discbine in JD 5th gear and it takes me 2 1/2 hours to knock down 8 acres. That includes cleaning up the 4 corner diagonals. It would be a 15 hour day to get 50. I could do it but would be a zombie by dark. Then what? Tedding, raking and baling take same amount of time basically. Drying only happens 10am until 6pm around here.
Dave H (MI)
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Where do I begin? Mounted mowers are a royal pain to take off and put on. All of the old sickles have been used near to death and are a constant repair/maintenance problem. Like I said. Fine if you have 5-10 acres to play with. If you have a lot of hay and iffy weather an old sickle starts being less and less fun.
morgan in ar
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I'd like to hire the man that could do it!
Both IHC and Deere made tractor drawn versions of the horse mower that had gearing for tractor speeds instead of horse speeds and they made the hitches to do just what the picture is showing, And they made the wheels for rubber tires as well as the steel wheels. That picture says it is a factory built setup. I do have parts books with that setup in them. Not sure about other makes as IHC and Deere are the only mowers the Amish still use as only ones parts are still readable for. The tractor mowers on steel had a 7" wide wheel verses a 4.5" on the horse drawn mowers. The Deere Big 4 and IHC NO 7 & 9 mowers with the 7" wheel will be about a $2,000 mower, the standard horse versions in those models is in the $1,500 range in working condition but not painted up.
rockyridgefarm
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They definitely could knock that down, and more. Didn't you notice the two other rigs on the other side of the field in the pic?
In the late 1930's or early 1940's it would be hard to put up that much hay in a day using only hay loaders and pitch forks to load wagons and only grapple forks or pitch forks to unload the wagons. Would much of the hay would have been put up in outdoor haystacks for the summer to be hauled home in the winter on bobsleds?
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