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TEN WORST tractors ever ..... a video

Crazy Horse

Crazy Horse

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OK, try to get your tempers under control as well as your replies. The ten best video earlier prompted some
nasty stuff. I realize whoever made the video up might not be the most learned tractor guy on the planet
but I suspect he is at least as knowledgeable as the average Tractor Talk visitor. Takes about 3 minutes
and remember, stay calm !!!
Ten Worst Tractors Ever ....
 

Haven't watched the video yet, where was the Hoyt-Clagwell listed at? That one that Oliver Wendell Douglas owned sure gave him a Eb a lot of trouble.
 
Number 8 and number 5 (if memory hasn't failed me already) belong on the list. Number 8 should be closer to the top though. I have my own list based on personal experience,but in all fairness,I bought the ones on my list used,and don't know how they were maintained before I bought them.
 
I saw that one awhile back and was not surprised at #1. That tractor put our local ford dealer out of business or so I was told. The only other one I ever operated was a farmall 560 gasser and recall no problems.
 
Ever? This author better do more research cuz their were some dandies. I would include this one.
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I don't know how much there is to it,but I'd heard once that that was the tractor that kicked off the Nebraska Tractor Tests. It was so bad that they wanted to make sure nobody else bought something that was pretending to be a tractor.
 
I recall reading that as well. I know of one that is being rebuilt. I wonder how many are out there.
 
That has been discussed heavily on here for the last month in the brand related forums. All it is is someones opinion based on hear-say. and opinions come a dime a dozen. It is very doubtful that the author ever owned any of the tractors mentioned.
Loren
 
(quoted from post at 18:28:58 01/16/19) I?m really surprised the JD MT is on the list (I don?t agree about it)
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also grew up on Farmall Diesel 560. We had the TA worked on once. Have read on other sites that some 560's had final drive issues when first released, but were recalled. Back in the sixtys we farmed 240 acres with it. Dad used it till he passed away in ninety two. Thought it was a great tractor. No problems. Would pull a three bottom plow in third gear in heavy soil. Enjoyed seeing it in the video. Thats as pretty as ours looked when we first got it
 
From what I've seen the IH 560 was a tractor a lot of owners grossly over weighted and tried to make it pull way more than it was ever intended to pull,so no surprise they then
had drive line problems.
 
Local IH Dealer said trying to make a 560 compete with a 4010 was a lost battle, 806 changed that later.
 
(quoted from post at 17:47:52 01/16/19) From what I've seen the IH 560 was a tractor a lot of owners grossly over weighted and tried to make it pull way more than it was ever intended to pull,so no surprise they then
had drive line problems.
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Actually those drive line problems were in the first production models that were rushed onto the market. IH did a recall and fixed them and made the needed modifications on the assembly line so that the problems were resolved. After the recall/redesign they were a solid tractor.

On another note they did not kill IH. They were recalled in June of 59 and repaired. IH failed in 1985. A failure of the magnitude that would cause a large corporation to go belly up doesn't take 26 years. What the failure did was allow JD to come out with the "new generation" tractors and gain market share actually taking over as sales leader in the AG market.

Rick
 
The 4 worst I operated--- 2-8-9 n Ford. The biggest pieces of junk that had 4 rubber tires mounted on them. Then there is the MT jd. It ranks right up there with those junk Ford's. I operated--- all 4 of these pieces of junk in the early 1960's.
 
(quoted from post at 20:31:40 01/16/19) The 4 worst I operated--- 2-8-9 n Ford. The biggest pieces of junk that had 4 rubber tires mounted on them. Then there is the MT jd. It ranks right up there with those junk Ford's. I operated--- all 4 of these pieces of junk in the early 1960's.
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Funny the biggest pieces of junk I ever operated were an AC CA, AC 190XT and and AC 8070. I'm surprised they even came with rubber tires much less an engine. Think the only folks that actually farmed with em couldn't even afford a Case so had to buy and AC or a horse and they didn't know how to drive a horse......

Rick
 
Grandpa used a 560D that he bought used in the 1960's until his death. Engine was gone through once or twice but no problems with
trans or rear. It's a '59 or '60 and is still in the family.

Dad bought a random used 560D about 10 years ago and has been in continuous use with no major issues, only typical used tractor
stuff. The TA even works fine. Not the prettiest out there though.
 
Well I have to disagree with you on the AC CA, I have two a wide front and narrow front and love them, have had them for over 20
years never spent a dime except points on them. They start and do their job everytime with power to spare for the size.
 
I am not a tractor guy. But the worst one I was ask to work on. Was a LONG.Great tractor as long as you didn't start it. I was very happy when he sold it.
 
(quoted from post at 06:28:44 01/17/19) Well I have to disagree with you on the AC CA, I have two a wide front and narrow front and love them, have had them for over 20
years never spent a dime except points on them. They start and do their job everytime with power to spare for the size.
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LOL Jim, i'm just taking pot shots at HD. I have no idea why because he never elaborates but he never misses an opportunity to bash what was the biggest selling series or all time, the Ford N series. But he really seems to like AC. Dad had a CA he was happy with. After operating both the 190 XT and the 8070 compared to other tractors of their day and size class? I think I'd gamble on a Belarus first :lol: :lol: . Not really, but I'd have a Case or Ford, or JD, or IH.....ECT before I bought another newer AC.

Rick
 
Well have operated both the ALLIS CA and the Ford 8N I would rather have the CA except for getting on and off, the 8N has it beat
there.
 
(quoted from post at 13:48:00 01/17/19) Well have operated both the ALLIS CA and the Ford 8N I would rather have the CA except for getting on and off, the 8N has it beat
there.
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I don't know, About the only thing I thought the CA was better at was cultivating (dad had both the cultivator and the plow). I like the 8N for plowing better. Oh the CA like to jump out of 2nd a lot to. Did that from the day he bought it.

Rick
 
Hey Now Mister sv cummins !, Although I really Do LOVE Cummins engines and their reliability ...You are Wrong about the FIAT Diesel Engine for sure. Best cold weather Starting tractor in our neck of the woods is a Hesston and powerful too,. Fill it up and use it all week.those Fiat motors are that good on fuel . A friend of Mine has a 5250 Case IH that is terrific. i know that the Cummins would do just as good if we only had one here. LOL
 
Alright I will attempt to be Cival... gotta agree on most for SOME their reasons . But these tractors depicted are still very good tractors .the 190 Allis rides as good as any?? ,I have a 1070 powershift and it is a HOSS . I also owned a JD M that my wife and really loved for tobacco work . Worst tractor ?. those damlittle junkie Fords for starters. and to be honest any old tractor that used old fashioned gasoline and is NOW being forced to use the modern flea-piz-oline for REAL Honest horse power for working the land . But, that runs great in my Crown Vic's 4.6.
 
(quoted from post at 17:41:12 01/17/19) I have a CA I use around the farm for different things.it'll do more for its size than any tractor I know of,starts easy and runs good.
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I can say the same thing for the N Fords. Plowing small plots , disking em too. Small brush mower and finish mower. Post auger. Pretty handy seeing as I can buy tons on implements to go with em.

Only thing really wrong with them is the brakes. Once cleaned up and new seals in the axles to brakes even work OK not great but OK. Both of mine (both soon to be gone 860 Ford replacement is here) will spin around on one tire with the turning bakes applied. Just takes a little mechanical work.

Now against the AC? Have to either find AC implements or spend the money to convert to a 3 point. Sits a little high so working in the woods is harder. And that jumping out of gear thing. Heck they had problems with that clear up though the X00 series. Granted it was owner induced but folks abused other brands too and didn't have nearly as many problems. Kinda funny. Going to buy a 55 or newer IH and get told make sure the TA is good. 70 series case get told to check out the powershift and AC from the letter series clear up to the X00 series make sure it don't jump out of 2nd or 3rd. none of em were perfect.

Rick
 
I have a CA and D15 with never touched original transmissions in them and neither one jumps out of any gear because they were both owned by people that knew how to drive and shift a
tractor transmission.
 
(quoted from post at 07:11:37 01/18/19) I have a CA and D15 with never touched original transmissions in them and neither one jumps out of any gear because they were both owned by people that knew how to drive and shift a
tractor transmission.
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Didn't I say it was an operator induced problem?

Rick
 
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