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Morgan in ar

01-11-2019 19:17:17




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I saw this PTO driven wood splitter on the local craigslist. I saw one once that mounted on a skid steer that was similar, but you operated it from the safety of the skid steer seat. This looks like a real man eater. I'm guessing that you run the PTO and use the handle to guide the spinning wedge into the block of wood. What could go wrong?

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wolfman

01-12-2019 18:32:24




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
I have one exactly like the one pictured. You can split a lot of wood quickly with it. Have to be careful with it. I've had knees konked, shins konked and nearly a chin wacked. It'l split about anything and you'll get brave and some knotty, gnarly log will break that holder bar and an 80 lb log will be spinning near your nose. And definitely no loose clothing near it. I'll never sell mine. Not that it is valuable, I just wouldn't subject anyone else to its danger.

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SVcummins

01-12-2019 12:12:18




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
When did everyone become scared of their own shadow? It’s no more dangerous than any farm implement If you keep your head hands and any other body part out of it while it’s moving. You wouldn’t stick your head under a bush hog while it’s running would you



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Bob

01-12-2019 11:15:27




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Here's the "SAFE" version!



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Bret4207

01-12-2019 11:02:23




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Stickler type splitters, buzz saws, radial arm saws, swings saws, chainsaws without brakes and anti kick back chain all must be used while while the operator is encased in titanium armor, with 2 paramedics and a life flight helo standing by, after buying all the life insurance he can afford and it would probably be a good idea to wear at least 3 condoms and have a flu shot. In the end, it really doesn't matter because you'll be horribly maimed, decapitated, both your arms and legs will be ripped off, you'll cut off both hands and be scalped in the process just before you die. It' happens 100% of the time when you use any of the above mentioned tools. I know this to be a fact because I read it on the internet!!!

Meanwhile, back in the real world, all the above mentioned tools have been successfully and safely used by a lot of people over the years. Other people have tried them and decided they didn't like them for various reasons that made them judge the tool unsafe. That's okay. It's called an "opinion", not a "fact", for a reason.
I'm going back out to play with my lawn darts while running with some scissors after eating a bunch of eggs fried in bacon grease... :roll:

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Hayfarmer

01-12-2019 08:51:49




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
a couple years ago someone posted a picture of a baler converted into wood splitter using plunger stroke to split wood. Now that was dangerous!!



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Mike M

01-12-2019 07:07:34




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Likely no more dangerous than buzz saws and hyd. splitters or many other farm items ? I know a fellow that has one of those. Just don't bend over in front of it ! lol.



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Jeff nwoh

01-12-2019 06:31:01




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Guys use them on a skidsteer or excavator to split large logs into pieces that will fit into firewood processors. This one didn't last long before it sold



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buickanddeere

01-12-2019 04:22:09




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
. You will do the world a favour and be an outstanding citizen by cutting the unicorn in half then selling it for scrap metal.



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greg oliver

01-12-2019 04:30:43




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to buickanddeere, 01-12-2019 04:22:09  
B&D, I'm domesticated now. I don't think you could pay me to use that thing again! Haven't burned wood in over 25 years. Just keep it to remember what I have done in the past.



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greg oliver

01-12-2019 04:16:54




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Morgan, It's a Unicorn wood splitter! I have the same one and it worked good for longer wood. We had a Longwood duel fuel furnace that 5 foot wood could fit in the firebox. I wrestled 20 inch by 5 foot logs onto the splitter many times as a skinny kid. We tied a bale string to the PTO lever in case we had to shut it down. Safety first! LOL

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Janicholson

01-12-2019 08:55:41




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to greg oliver, 01-12-2019 04:16:54  
OC3? We had one with a loader. fun, but woefully under powered. Yours is neat. Jim



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greg oliver

01-12-2019 09:39:30




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Janicholson, 01-12-2019 08:55:41  
Janicholson, HG and I wish it had that auxillary transmission. Has just a trip bucket loader and after running new heavy equipment for over 20 years its a big step back in time!



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Rex Simpkins

01-12-2019 01:28:06




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Had one just like it when I was young, helped my father split a lot of wood with it---after my father passed I took it down the river near my house and threw it on a submerged rockpile so no one could ever use anything that dangerous again.



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2x4

01-12-2019 00:35:24




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
one I had you drove the car tire onto a set of rollers & the turning tire drove a chain that powered the unicorn. Worked really good but finally worn out certain parts that can't get anymore. Easily split a lot of wood with it but the 'Monster Maul' & armstrong method works as good.



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oldtanker

01-11-2019 20:50:47




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
They were real popular in the mid to late 70's and early 80's. Lot of folks went to burning wood starting with the fuel embargo and moving through the early stages of the Carter/Reagan recession.

For someone used to being around dangerous stuff they were not to bad. But for the novice they were extremely dangerous. They still sell em, you can find them on Amazon.

Rick



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TexasMF135

01-11-2019 19:58:42




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
I have one of those wheel ones i got used from craigslist.

I fabbed up a little adapter so that it could hang below the gear box on my PTO post hole digger.

it wiggles a bit, but it splits wood while I am in the seat of the tractor a few feet away.

instructions said to use a chainsaw file to dress the tip if it gets dull.



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Ionia Ford Man

01-11-2019 19:58:03




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
I had one on a 2400 International 3 point. I drilled the fenders and put eyebolts in them and ran a rope from the PTO lever thru the eyebolts and tied it off so I could grab the rope and shut it off in case of problems. I placed a smaller piece on the screw and it came around and it hit me in the chest so the unit went to the scrap yard. Good luck and set up a fast shut off for the PTO.



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David Snipes

01-11-2019 19:57:01




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
I used to have one - they are dangerous. I never got hurt but I had some close calls. Sometimes, if you had stringy Ponderosa Pine, the piece might not split all the way, it would then snap back together on the shaft in front of the screw and spin around dangerously. You would have to stop the tractor and chain saw it off. It's so dangerous I scrapped it rather than sell it.



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Eldon (WA)

01-11-2019 19:46:37




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

I have a similar one to mount on my skid steer post hole auger...I don't burn wood and have never used it.



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paul

01-11-2019 19:38:51




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Well.....

As a kid I helped mom and dad cut up wood with the circle saw on the front of the farmall H. In winter of course, on snow and ice.

So, coming from that, the screw wood splitter seemed a lot safer to me when I used it. Person needs to keep their witts about them and know what they are doing.

Frankly I think the chainsaw is equally or more dangerous, a spinning saw out there in your hands as you walk around.

two people using a regular log splitter is frightening to me. Very easy to smash something when one person doesn’t anticipate what the other person is going to do.

I ran the screw at idle, it killed the tractor when you got in knots, it ran pretty slow, seemed to work well. Keep your hands the heck away from that ‘handle’ getting yourself limbs pinched in that bar was the danger I found to creep up on you.

Much more dangerous in the far, is livestock. They aren’t predictable.

So, yea a spinning screw is a danger.

Seems on the lower end tho to me, of the dangerous things I’ve used?

Paul

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Paul from MI

01-11-2019 19:35:09




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
It's worse than your worst thought. Neighbor had one, bent the PTO shaft on a JD 60, but he's still alive.



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jeffcat

01-11-2019 19:34:23




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
Gravely had an attachment like that too. You wanted everything in LOW gear. Also known as a Unicorn splitter.



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jeffcat

01-11-2019 19:58:11




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to jeffcat, 01-11-2019 19:34:23  
Now here is how to REALLY split wood. Crazy time.



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D Slater

01-12-2019 05:43:57




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to jeffcat, 01-11-2019 19:58:11  
Most be before they said smoking was a danger.



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used red mn

01-11-2019 22:15:39




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to jeffcat, 01-11-2019 19:58:11  
Hope he has a hand full of spare valve stems handy.



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robert major

01-11-2019 22:06:10




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to jeffcat, 01-11-2019 19:58:11  
Jeffcat I started watching the clip and a video of a guy demoing a big concrete silo with an excavator and wrecking ball, showed in the recommended list. It looked safer so I watched that instead L.O.L Regards Robert



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Straw Boss

01-11-2019 21:02:11




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to jeffcat, 01-11-2019 19:58:11  
I could only watch half of this video. Didn't want to watch him catch his pant leg or mash a finger.



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paul

01-11-2019 21:43:32




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Straw Boss, 01-11-2019 21:02:11  
Oh my gosh.

That person would be dangerous with a plastic spoon and knife!

Wow.

Obviously that is a home made skrew, and not well made! It doesn’t grab the wood, it doesnt bite right, what a mess.

(I wanted to say it was a cluster fire truck but that probably wouldn’t be polite.)

Longer wood is better, and placing the wood well off center works well. Slamming the wood onto the screw and often in the center is dumb!

As it went, I thought of your remark of not wanting to watch any more. I got to thinking, the cameraman is also standing in very dumb, unsafe places..... and sure enough, the video ends by the cameraman getting taken out!

Thanks for posting that video, it shows all the tings not to do!

On my pto unit on my 27 hp compact tractor at idle, it worked well, smoothly, and took none of that stupidity to operate!

Paul

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spmn

01-11-2019 19:33:45




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
They're more than dangerous, they're a man killer---I had one years ago & thank God nobody got hurt with it---You need someone on the tractor all the time to shut the PTO off if you get into trouble



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Ken Macfarlane

01-11-2019 19:19:03




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:17:17  
The “handle” is the brace that stops the wood from spinning.



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504

01-11-2019 19:23:26




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-11-2019 19:19:03  
They made one that bolted to the rear wheel of your PU,you jacked it up and put it in gear.



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bud sather in mt

01-12-2019 06:42:27




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to 504, 01-11-2019 19:23:26  
I used one of them to split wood. The cone wasn't far from the ground so all you had to do was jam the log on the end and the ground would stop it from turning and it would screw it into the log and split it. A couple of knotty pieces even killed the engine. Bud



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JayinNY

01-11-2019 19:49:51




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to 504, 01-11-2019 19:23:26  
Like this one.



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Morgan in ar

01-11-2019 19:28:01




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to 504, 01-11-2019 19:23:26  
What could go wrong?



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Morgan in ar

01-11-2019 19:21:48




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-11-2019 19:19:03  
Maybe it's not as bad as I imagined.



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SVcummins

01-11-2019 19:42:55




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 Re: Looks dangerous! in reply to Morgan in ar, 01-11-2019 19:21:48  
Just like anything it demands a lot of respect for what it will do and what it can do to you if your not careful with it



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