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Any of you ever do these tests Wondering how it came out. I was always told I was 50% Danish. According to Ancestry DNA I have no Dane at all. My family is stunned!!!
 
I was always told my great grandmother was native American, my boy took a test, no native there.
 
I have no trust in them at all. Local guy was told he was Japanese. His family did a real search. They can trace the family back to the 1400s in Norway.

From what I have heard. They don't really trace you family history. They only tell you where you are supposed to have come from.
 
My wife did it,I didn't, thought it a waste of money. It came back about 80 percent different than she had been told all her life........I have never put much stock in what that bunch has said over the years either.

I just kept my mouth shut.
 
I read a story about 2 identical twins that did the test and came back way different backgrounds. A contractor at work found his brother thru one of those test,think it was the 23 and me one.
 
My half brother took the test, my boy did two, they showed up as a close match, along with another woman none of us knew, turned out my moms sister also gave a baby away.
 
My sister did it. Our great grandmother is supposed to be native American. My sister's test said no. She's been trying to get me to take to see if it would show up on mine.
 
There's one of us in every wood pile. Of course if I took the test,I'd probably find out I'm not one. LOL
 
My mother in law was always very proud of her supposed Norwegian heritage. My brother in law did a test and it came back as mostly Irish on her side. She had herself tested. Mostly Irish. Yet there is no doubt that her family, mom and dad already married, immigrated from Norway and a long family history of both families being from Norway. The Vikings raided. Basically any place close to water. They didn't just take food and valuables. They took women too. Lots of them. They in turn became the wives of the vikings. And when JR was born 1/2 Irish then married another captive from Ireland the offspring is even more closely related to the Irish. Then the Irish raided too. Clear down into Italy on occasion.

Heck if you look back through the ages armies raped, pillaged and plundered their way back and forth across Europe. They took wives. They took slaves. There were conquerors from Asia, Russia, the Mid East, North Africa. Lets not forget the Romans nor the Greeks. If you have European heritage there are good odds that at one time or another your ancestors were slaves and another time when they owned the slaves.

Rick
 
I did one, known great grandma was a full blood native American, have a picture of her. No native american blood found. Scotch, Irish, German, English. It was a waste of $59.00. Some day I will try a different brand of search.
 
Another angle on the DNA ancestry business. I have never taken one of these test or even read them. There is a 39 year old murder case that they think they have solved because of an Ancestry data base check. This man's Niece sent in a sample to be checked. It seems that you agree for your sample to be compared to the national Crime data DNA base. Hers came back showing that a DNA sample from a 39 year old murder, showed that a male closely related to her had left a DNA sample at the murder scene. A little leg worked brought the spot light on to an Uncle of hers. Then local sheriff officers followed him and got a DNA sample from a something he eat off on or drank out of. His DNA matched a sample found at the crime scene.

The published news reports are not saying much on how they caught him. The TV news spoke about it around the time they caught him. Also the investigation is common knowledge in the local area.

I have heard of him as he sold equipment at one of the local JD stores 20 years ago or so. He an his brother also bought and sold equipment as part of a business they ran in Manchester. Really a weird thing.
Story of the Manchester man accussed on murder.
 
I heard about the case. That's about the only good thing to come out of Ancestry DNA.

I could care less about being tested. I know my Grandpa and Grandma on mom's side came from Germany when they were kids in the early 1900's. That's all ancestry I need to know.
 
king,
My daddy was a milkman. I kid you not. I grew up on a dairy and we did it all from milking, to pasteurizing, to delivery.

Our moto, we squeeze, you pour!!! Milk then was fifty cents a gallon in glass bottles.
 
Mine was pretty much what I expected having gone way back in my family tree. Interestingly my adopted daughter's results matched mine very closely. Son hasn't done one yet.
 
If your grand dad or dad was full blood anything, that doesn't mean you will be 25% or 50%. You are half of your mom and half of your dad, but it doesn't make it 50/50 on DNA. Also if your ancestors claimed to be from a certain place, who's to say they didn't immigrate there to begin with. People living 200+ years ago were very nomadic, it's not impossible to think they didn't really come from a certain place.

If you go back 150-200+ years ago, people didn't keep great documentation on heritage either. I would probably have more trust in a current DNA database than what has been "passed down the line"
 
Maybe it's another Nigerian scam. Did everyone check the postal address where you mailed your sample ???? If it was Abuja, then you done got took !!!
 
When I purchased a DNA kit from "23/ME",the kit was purchased with specific information I requested:

Our Mother, passed away at age 88 eight months ago. The disease was so terrible it robbed her of her mental ability to function:

DNA testing, can and will let you know if you have "specific markers" that will most likely cause an individual health issues. These markers may not be present at the time of the testing,and can certainly become present at some later time in ones life.

My wife, has reasons to specify markers to be checked on that will lead to CANCER diagnoses. At present time, my wife has NON of the markers that were checked, that are associated with Cancer.

At present, I have one marker, that indicates that if I should have ever have a second marker present then I stand a great chance of perishing from the same mental illness that robbed our mother of here life.

I try my best to educate myself with a wide scope of learning material.

The price I paid for the DNA testing is minuscule given I have seen the effects of a terrible Disease.

You may ask, so what shall you do when and if the teats come back terminal?

I shall continue educating myself on the best path to maintain a great quality of life.

I seen two sisters and their Father pass away from a specific cancer. Their last sister took matters into her own hands. DNA testing,then radical medical procedures, she has live a beautiful meaningful life twenty years longer than her sisters.

Each one of us to their own.

All the best in 2019 and hopping for a healthy and great quality of life.

Bob...Retired Power engineer..
 
. Using 23andme everything came back for my family being Vikings, Irish, Scottish , English etc. Hair colour, eye colour and other characteristics are either accurate or close .
Using 23andme plus GEDmatch I have narrowed down the relatives for an adopted friend to a couple of generations out . Using Ancestry.ca we have the relatives narrowed down to 3 or 4 the right age and place to have been one of his parents.
Of course some of the relatives don’t know about or don’t want to know about a stranger telling them that. Grandma had a little b@stard before she married Grandpa.
 
. Using 23andme everything came back for my family being Vikings, Irish, Scottish , English etc. Hair colour, eye colour and other characteristics are either accurate or close .
Using 23andme plus GEDmatch I have narrowed down the relatives for an adopted friend to a couple of generations out . Using Ancestry.ca we have the relatives narrowed down to 3 or 4 the right age and place to have been one of his parents.
Of course some of the relatives don’t know about or don’t want to know about a stranger telling them that. Grandma had a little b@stard before she married Grandpa.
 
My Brother-in-law has been tracing their family ancestry. This is what he has found so far.So - I've been doing a lot of genealogy research lately. I've discovered that we're (the Bushore/Allison line) descended from a lot of Scottish Kings, including Robert the Bruce and a couple of the Scottish Kings, James Stewart's III and IV. Turns out Princess Diana was a cousin.

But one of my more fascinating discoveries is Sir John Harington IV, (a godson of Elizabeth I), one of our G-G-G-grandfathers thru the Baum line (my generation's great grandmother Lucinda Baum Bushore, mother of Eliphe).

So google him. He invented something we all use every day.
 
Hd6gtom, I doubt there would be any way to find out, but kidnapping or sparing children during raids was not that uncommon among the Native Americans, especially when they were at war with the invading peoples.

Many stories of captured children. Strange thing is, rarely did a child or even an adult want to leave their captors. Those that did rarely acclimated back into the white lifestyle.
 
The wife took one. Results sounds like bull to me. I don't trust them. They haven't figured out how to stop a common cold and yet they want me to believe they can tell where my ancestors came from by using less than the olny 3 percent of my DNA that is different from everyone and almost everything else in the world. I don't think so.
 
I can track every great-grandparent except for one back to Denmark. The one non-Danish great-grandparent came from Norway. A couple months ago my sis and I did the Ancestory.com test. Our results were the same; 40% Norwegian, 30% Germanic-European, and 20% Swedish. The rest involves relation to some of the folks in the Morman migration. When we look at a map Denmark is connected to Germany on the south and Norway to the north. Sweden is across the narrow waters from Sweden. A lot of travel could have happened between those close countries back then so I have no reason to doubt the test.
 
(quoted from post at 21:19:38 12/26/18) I can track every great-grandparent except for one back to Denmark. The one non-Danish great-grandparent came from Norway. A couple months ago my sis and I did the Ancestory.com test. Our results were the same; 40% Norwegian, 30% Germanic-European, and 20% Swedish. The rest involves relation to some of the folks in the Morman migration. When we look at a map Denmark is connected to Germany on the south and Norway to the north. Sweden is across the narrow waters from Sweden. A lot of travel could have happened between those close countries back then so I have no reason to doubt the test.
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Sweden is across the narrow waters from NORWAY.
 
Most of your personal information is in some database on the
internet anyways, so why not pay them to house your family's
DNA too? After all, they're totally secure and never get hacked.
Even though all of us that were in the military in the 80's were
forced to give ours, I think I'll pass on providing it to the web.
 
would never do it just heard of a case where they used the DNA that people sent in to catch a bad guy, the DNA co. said they don't do that. but think about it what better way to get every persons DNA and you pay for it then to disguise it as harmless history search
 
I am pretty confident I am not on any watchlist, TSA pre-check, DOT for pipeline and DOD for munitions plant access.

So, I am not worried about my DNA out there, do not like it, but feel safe.
 
I believe there test about as far as I can throw an elephant. Plus once you take that test your in the data base and if some one who is a close match comments a crime but it was not you well even if you did not do it but your a close match you can get blamed for the crime. Those DNA things is just another way for the gov to keep track of a person. Which by the way is not legal since we do have a privacy act which states we have to right yo our privacy. I know who I am and where my parents and grand parents and great grand parents came from. I knw I am mostly German wit ha little Swede but ALL AMERCAN
 
The ancestry test pretty much followed what we thought. Germanic-European heritage. From the individual test result they only went back to 1700 as far as I could tell. There was no write up of disease markers like cancer probability or anything else like that in our report. Must have had the cheaper DNA test. They are using computer programs to determine probability of DNA match with others in their database. They are also comparing your DNA to "reference panels" from other countries in their computer database to determine geographic location of your ancestors.These location probabilities are given in percentages not exact matches since they are going back thru several generations to 1700. Recommend it if you have an interest in genealogy.
 
I recently got mine back. 44% Native American from South central New Mexico, No surprise since my grandfather was Mescalreo Apache. 34% Spanish. No Surprize there either and a whole slew of one and two percent from mainly Europe.
 
I have been told my Grand pa came from Norway, on Mom's side and my Great Grand pa came from Germany on Dad's side. That's enough. I had a test done on my dog. Stan
 
in the 80's the VA ask everybody for a DNA sample for a data base. I refused but
I will 100% guarantee you they took all of ours anyway.
 
They say that soon they will have enough DNA data to identify almost everyone in the country. You and I may not send our DNA in but a relative may and from that they have information on us.
 
I don't need one. I know I'm one hundred percent native American because I was born here and don't have one drop of Indian blood, only my Indian name. TDF
 
I don't believe it. I think DNA could be used to determine parents or perhaps grandparents but not beyond that. I saw a show onetime where identical triplets were given the DNA test and found that each of them had a different history. I've also had some dealings with Ancestry.com and found them to be crooked.
 
Heard that joke too--Now go out and play Two Dogs -------. Are you from the Fukowey tribe?---Tee
 
But the FBI welcomes your contribution to their DNA database. While you may be a completely law abiding citizen your third cousin may have left his DNA at a crime scene and it can be tracked back through you.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2018/04/27/ancestry-genealogy-dna-test-privacy-golden-state-killer/557263002/


Not saying its bad thing - yet.
 

There was a case recently in eastern Europe where a body discovered in the aftermath of a house fire was determined to be a particular person through DNAtesting. The results, according to the lab, were something north of 94% (96% and change IIRC) positive that the DNA was from a specific person. He was declared dead, a funeral held, people got on with their lives. 4 months later he shows up after his out of town job ends. 96% accuracy and they got it wrong and people want to believe a $59.00 "test" is going to be accurate? Horse pucky!
 
Bret,

I would agree with you, the tests are sort of accurate and can give generalizations, would not want confirmation without 99% or better.
 
I've gotten two phone calls and a letter in the mail from people in other states,thinking we were related because of my grandfathers first name and my mothers name.
 
My wife got me an Ancestry for my birthday. I have an extensive genealogy back to Somersetshire to 1561. Dna confirmed just what I already knew. One surprise was 5% Norwegian. I think that can be attributed to Viking raids on Wales,Ireland and Southwest England where the rest of my DNA is from.
 
Pitch, I have traced my paternal line to Somersetshire too. And as a side note, I have a gene defect thats called Hemochromotosis. (poor iron regulation). Its thought this came from the Vikings(spreading bad genes)... It's detected in a blood test of serum ferritin. But not in your 'usual' blood work up. All males descending from Scotland, Ireland & England coast, should have the test. Too much iron can cause liver failure &/or heart attacks.
 
True and the fact they keep that info should be illegal they should do the test then shred the info they have and the only copy should be the copy the person who ordered the kit gets
 
My wife and her sister did their DNA thru Ancestry last year.
One of the first people to pop up as a second cousin was the child of their Uncle's hired man's wife.
That person also popped up as a 2nd cousin to their first cousin.
Even as a kid back in the 40s we had heard rumors.....now we know it was all too true!
We see this person now and again but we have not discussed the findings although we know he got notified of the relationship.
I have learned a lot from my DNA connections....a guy who lived within a half mile of me all of our younger years turns out to be my 3rd or 4th cousin.
By researching, I found that my GGgrandmother and his GGgrandfather were brother and sister.
I am a little apprehensive about having my DNA info "out there"
but I sure am having fun finding all these new relatives.
I'm sure there will be a whole new batch of relatives showing up
after the results come back from all the DNA kits given as Christmas gifts.
 
I think it's absolute insanity to be voluntarily giving your DNA profile away for recreational purposes. People must be out of their minds to be doing this.

First off, I'm surprised none of these DNA services have been hacked and the whole database put out on Wikki Leaks for everyone to see. Get ready, it's only a matter of time.

Second, there's the results that YOU get and then what else do they do with that sample? Correct answer is anything they freaking want. Are these companies selling your DNA profile to health insurance companies so you can be "risk evaluated" for a nice rate hike? What about life insurance companies so they can re-price your life insurance based on DNA potential risks?

Nobody knows who is getting your data and how they are using it. You'd have to be nucking futz to be forking over your DNA just for fun.

Finally as most people find out, there is a big difference between DNA markers indicating possible historical ancestor locations and the real story. In the distant past, people moved very freely from one area to another, so confusing results will often occur.

Grouse
 
So you don't think insurance companies have a right to evaluate the risk of the insured? How about driving records, pre-policy life insurance exams, building inspections, claims histories????
 
I did a test thru Ancestry a year or so ago for my cousin. He was trying to trace our family back to the 1600's in Boston and ran into a problem where the British burned the town records twice in either Rhode Island or Mass. And what he was trying to prove needed my father's DNA, not his mother's. My test has not helped him much yet to prove the lineage. But it has connected me with several 2nd and 3rd cousins from all over the country that I had no idea existed, and they all confirmed back to the same area of upstate NY where I live now. Oddly enough though, thru my mother's side of the family, rather than dad's side, which is the side of my cousin who started me on this.

As far as origin, no surprises there. Although the first analysis showed traces from places that surprised me. Those disappeared when they gave me an update recently, based on them changing their metrics.

All very interesting and I have no concerns about my info being in their database.

Tim
 
(quoted from post at 08:27:58 12/27/18) My wife got me an Ancestry for my birthday. I have an extensive genealogy back to Somersetshire to 1561. Dna confirmed just what I already knew. One surprise was 5% Norwegian. I think that can be attributed to Viking raids on Wales,Ireland and Southwest England where the rest of my DNA is from.
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I think a 5% reading would indicate something much more recent that the Viking age. Probably great or ggrandpsrents. Maybe a hundred years or so. Another one of those sneaky Swedes had in for you guys.....
 

Kind of a tangent, but maybe relevant. My grandfather, on moms side, was born into a farm family in 1900. He said that back in his youth, girls found ways to get pregnant..... To cover things up, the girl would stay close to the farm for a few months, they would have the baby at home. Then the girls mom would declare that she had a “miracle “ baby. Or a older sister might take her in and raise her as her own. The baby would grow up thinking that her grandmother was her mom, and that her mother was a sister or aunt. My mom did some genology on her family recently,and found a woman who was recorded as having a baby at 46! Back in about 1900. Maybe grandfather knew something. Something like this probably explains some of the oddball things in family trees.
 
(quoted from post at 14:16:12 12/27/18) So you don't think insurance companies have a right to evaluate the risk of the insured? How about driving records, pre-policy life insurance exams, building inspections, claims histories????
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NO! Insurance companies under the ACA do not and should NOT have the right to use a person's DNA to price insurance. Most states also forbid DNA analysis for life insurance because it is highly speculative.

And they certainly should NEVER have the right to buy wholesale DNA databases for future possible use. But you can bet they are trying and it's only a matter of time before it comes out that the big DNA testing services are selling this data.

Again, people are only thinking of what THEY get from these testing services. A cute little profile that proves or disproves the family story.

What people foolishly are NOT thinking about is what else could and will be done with this data. Once you give away your sample, it's out of your control forever.

Grouse
 
(quoted from post at 16:49:30 12/27/18)
Kind of a tangent, but maybe relevant. My grandfather, on moms side, was born into a farm family in 1900. He said that back in his youth, girls found ways to get pregnant..... To cover things up, the girl would stay close to the farm for a few months, they would have the baby at home. Then the girls mom would declare that she had a “miracle “ baby. Or a older sister might take her in and raise her as her own. The baby would grow up thinking that her grandmother was her mom, and that her mother was a sister or aunt. My mom did some genology on her family recently,and found a woman who was recorded as having a baby at 46! Back in about 1900. Maybe grandfather knew something. Something like this probably explains some of the oddball things in family trees.
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There have been all kinds of uncomfortable stories about what DNA testing has revealed. For example, lots and lots of people finding out that dad, ummm, wasn't.

Sometimes it's a little subtle, but people have their DNA tested and find out there are no matches to anyone on their father's side of the family tree... Hmmm. Almost like they aren't related...

Or a branch of the family tree disappears (genetically) at a certain point in the past. All kinds of reasons for it, but it can make for some pretty dang awkward Christmas dinners when some people find out that Uncle Ed is really daddy.

Grouse
 
I agree with you, can trust them more than a family legacy that was handed down.

I found out I have a half brother and he found out my aunt also had a child, it was all hidden then.
 
When you get into genealogy information is sketchy at best and sometimes you can let your imagination run away with you. I know my family migrated through Newell West Virginia in the early 19th century and at one time I was convinced one of them founded the town. I wrote the library there and some kind sole sent me information to the contrary. Not related to the Newell that founded the town at all. Funny that Newell migrated from the same county in New Jersey that mine did.
 

I've done quite a bit of genealogy. I found out I was related to the guy that owned the farm right next door to me, to one of the guys I rode nights with for years, to a bunch of people I'd known for years where I live now (150 miles from where I grew up) and that one branch of my family and one branch of my wifes lived within 5 miles of each other back in merry olde England. Also found out my wife is related to a guy I serve with on our town board and that a branch of her family was on the 2nd ship after the Mayflower to go to the Plymouth colony. Both her family and mine took part in the Revolutionary War on the colonial side and some of her family were among the first Dutch inhabitants of what is NYC today. It's amazing the things you uncover when you start looking.
 
Just wanted to make sure you were for coverage of pre-existing conditions under ACA. So many people on this site, ramble around, and argue both sides of every issue and never see their inconsistency.
 


did 23&me.... no surprises, but under the near kin section I have found tons of cousins and other relatives who the test spotted via dna......and sure enough, they are truely kin,,, pretty far off but still kin.... so the 23&me test is right on the money. Mom though one of our great grandma's might have been comanche indian as she was very dark, turns out not to be..... I would say the 23&me tests are good. I declined the medical section as I dont particularly want to know when I'm gonna die, and what I am gonna die of.

I suspect I will die of "no heart beat", but who knows, if may be from "not breathing".
 
The DNA testing is as accurate as the political polls. Probably have four different scenarios plotted out and send the one the jives with the last name.
There's one born every minute.
The again .... I'm the guy that doubts if the vet ever looks at your dog's turd after he charges you $50. to look for worms ..... or does it just get flushed.
 
Your first line is what I believe. I know years ago some company came up with a book supposedly on my family and Dad bought it just to see what they had to say and over half was false. And this was just supposedly close relations that were still living and personaly knew.
 
(quoted from post at 03:05:50 12/27/18) I heard about the case. That's about the only good thing to come out of Ancestry DNA.

I could care less about being tested. I know my Grandpa and Grandma on mom's side came from Germany when they were kids in the early 1900's. That's all ancestry I need to know.
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Both my mom's parents came from Hungary. Sister had the test done, no Hungarian in the background, showed mostly German. So, you never really know where your ancestors really came from.
 
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