-50 below pac boots

Worked outside for 24 yrs. Only thing that ever kept my feet warm was LaCrosse Iceman. Not cheap, big and awkward until you get used to them. Not quite mickey big. Pull out wool liner. First pair lasted 17 yrs of everday wear during winter. Frost bite as a kid so my feet get cold real fast.
Iceman
 
These boots have pull out liners too.
I bought a pair of LaCrosse Iceman from Gander Mt. (which went out of business later). Two months later the LaCrosse boots were cracking. Gander Mt. wouldn't stand behind them because I wore them. LaCrosse made it difficult to get a refund. After a few months of emails and calls, Gander Mt gave me a full refund.
 
At 59 bucks try them you're not out much or return them. They will be like walking ski boots take awhile to get use to..
 
Where I live you don't need the -50 below boots. I get a boot rated for about -30 below and that is plenty for this area. I get boot that are 2,000 gram thinsulate lined and keep feet warm all day.d
 
Hi Geo, I don't know the weather conditions in your area but in my area of Canada we are experiencing more freezing and thawing cycles resulting in more ice (black ice as the media call it) than snow conditions. A couple years ago my wife bought a very expensive pair of winter boots that are very warm but when the tread gets cold and you hit an icy patch the treads are as bad as leather soled shoes. As you are aware the older we get the more prone we are to breaking a hip or some other body part if we slip and fall on ice.
Recently Canada has been implementing a standard for boot treats with the number of "snow flakes" rating and the more snow flakes the better the grip on slippery surfaces just like snow and ice tire ratings.

If you are interested I have included a link to a web site that has the ratings.

JimB
Winter Boot Treat Rating
 
I drove by some road construction projects yesterday, the traffic control guys with the slow/stop signs etc. are out there all day and not moving a whole lot. And it was a relatively chilly day, I often wonder if they use foot warmers or invest in those very expensive boots. Even with the good boots, not moving around too much might make things worse I suspect.
 
I?ve always had good luck with Sorel boots but I don?t have to work in them all day. Don?t wear my logger sole Chippewa?s in the winter, busted my butt twice on the ice. Getting too old to be picking myself up in a frozen parking lot.
 
Years ago our oldest bought a cheap pair of boots like that from Sportsman's Guide. He loved them for cold weather, passed them down to younger brothers until they finally wore out. They loved those boots and wore them even if they were too big and didn't fit well. I know you will say I am crazy but the last few days it has started out about 16F and only got up to about 28F with a wind chill. I wore my summer hikers could feel the wind blowing through the vents and between my toes, my feet weren't cold, and I am outside all day framing a house on the edge of a lake. I'm not normal.
 
No experience with those, but, if I'm on my feet working, 1,200 gram thinsulate is more than enough for me in SE MI. If I'm sitting in my deer blind for 5 hrs, there isn't a boot made that will keep my feet warm without the addition of foot warmers. Personally, I wouldn't expect much out of a $60 boot.
 
Well for me any boot with 400 grams would be good down to maybe 50 above , my hunting boots are 1200 grams of this fabulous Thinsulate stuff and at 25 degree F i am good for maybe 3 hours up 3 and a half hours before it hurts to walk . Myself i have never found a boot or glove that will keep me warm for hours on end outside , been like this all my life . Myself i have tried everything i could afford shot of expensive heated gloves and socks. In my younger days running heavy equipment before the boss bought me the new dozer with the first cab in the company i was the first one on the jobs to put the side curtains on and install the winter fan , back in those days ya had to change the fans not just push and turn the blades . when we were moving equipment in the winter for the new job to start in the spring i like to froze in the old Mack . Only my company pick up and my car had good heaters .
 

For me, nothing works as good as surplus white mickey mouse boots- NOTHING! The old Sorels were good, but the liners have changed and I think they're junk now. The Baffin types are okay but you really need 1/2" or more of insulated sole on the bottom. Mickeys run about the same and they simply work, but they are heavy as heck.
 
George, need to know a little more info in order to help guide you to boots that are right for you.

1. What are you looking for? (place the following in order of inportance):
cost
style
bulk
ease of getting on/off
water resistance
quick drying/removeable liners
traction
price

2. What style footwear are you looking for? Shoe? Low boot? Mid-height? Knee height?

3. Laces or slip-on?

4. How easily do your feet get cold? Do you over-dress? Do you have circulation issues?

5. Are you normally active when wearing winter boots, or mostly inactive?

There's more, but that's a good start. Can probably find what you need with just that.

One thing you need to be cautious of is not getting something that is TOO warm. Do you wear wool/heavy socks? If your feet get hot, they will likely sweat. When they sweat and then you slow down, you're gonna get cold. Only way around that is to have shoes/boots with good circulation. Getting boots that fit too tight means no airflow, which means you're trapping moisture around your foot. Another big thing is the mindset that you MUST have waterproof boots. Usually, I avoid waterproof footwear where I can. Having untreated leather means the boot can breath and help expel moisture trapped inside.

Do you have foot problems? I have an old ankle injury, so I'm now limited to what I can wear. Ankle can't handle having anything rub against it, or tightness, but also can't have the top of a shoe rim rubbing. Makes finding something to wear a challenge these days.

As for something that has traction in icy conditions, I've found that boots with small nibs on the soles grip really well. Let me see if I can find a pic of what I'm speaking off....
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See the round nibs? They help keep me upright in slippery conditions. Sadly, I see boots moving away from this feature. It may also have to do with "how" I walk, but just my experience.

Also, the hardness of the sole will greatly affect icy traction. Think of winter tires -- they are made with a softer rubber than all-season tires. They also don't have a lot of massive tread, but then they're made for a rolling load; not step-by-step. But softer rubber can grip ice better in most instances.

What about snow? Do you have a lot of snow or slush there? Will you be walking/hiking/working off the beaten path, or just looking for getting around in town and around the yard?

Good winter boots are usually pretty expensive. When it gets really cold, I like having my old Sorels on. I have extra liners, so can keep going even after they get wet. Bought another brand of almost identical boots one time and the slit in the liners was on the opposite side as the Sorels. Every time I went to put them on, my foot would hang in the slit. Now with this ankle injury, my "main" winter boots has turned out to be a pair of BOGS brand camo hunting boots. I really like them, but the tread is too hard. I slip too easily now. Have to adjust how I step....gotta be much more careful now.

Lastly, I don't normally wear "winter" socks. I normally wear the same athletic socks in summer that I do in winter. Wife is different. Her feet get cold REAL easy! She wears heavy winter socks, but then finds that what keeps her feet the warmest isn't bulky winter boots, but normal summer-type women's hiking shoes. Since she likes wearing heavy socks in the house, this works best for her. In deeper snow, she has taller boots. However, with the heavy socks, her feet sweat too much and then get wet, then she gets cold.
 
Blackhole, replying to your $60 boot comment ..... that was something I meant to mention in my reply (which you did) and that is the cost factor. When I read through the original post but then saw them priced at about $60, I was a bit surprised that anyone would expect protection to -50 degrees. You could wear them at that temperature but I suspect a person's feet would get cold pretty quick. I'm guessing that up here you'd have to spend at least $200 and maybe more to buy something that would provide comfort all day outside.
 
I agree in every way. The whites are perfect for really cold minus 40 conditions and all day use. The black variety are best for conditions down to that, I wear blacks
in central MN at 20 below and never get cold feet. (69.8 years old) You will find the warmih out "weights" the weight by a major factor. They do not require exercize to
stay warm. They work standing or sitting, They can be filled with water and you will be warm. Jim
 
Here in Central MN, quality black military surplus work very well for me, you have to pay for them. I like them better than the white bunny boots (heaviest ever) Colemans's military surplus out east is whre I have gotten mine.

https://colemans.com/?utm_source=Coleman%27s+Specials&utm_campaign=b6746a8692-New_Site_Campaign-4-22-15&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d6727d9ecf-b6746a86
 

I have been using Sorel pac boots for over forty years. I install insulating innersoles under the pac. With any pac boot it is vitally important that if you are going to wear them the next day that you remove the pacs and let them dry overnight in order to maintain the insulation.
 
Crazy Horse,
I purchased a pair of these boots about 5 years ago from TSC. They keep my feet warm as toast. TSC stopped selling them. I just found a place to buy another pair. Nothing wrong with my old boots. I wore the liner out and bought a replacement liner. I find the replies to be very interesting. Lots of recommendations for other shoes. I don't remember reading if anyone has a pair.
I'll definitely recommend them.

Geo
 

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