rusty6
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Part Time Pete
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Looks like that was a big tree..
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rusty6
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Yes, its a 15-30 McCormick. Actually 22-36 as the plate showed in the video. That big old poplar tree was one we helped take down back about 1980? It was in danger of falling over onto a church. Huge trunk, I think about 4 foot diameter at the base. Some type of black poplar or cottonwood. It was starting to rot inside. It was in the days before video cameras but I have some photos.
37chief
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That's quite a collection. I like it. Stan
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rusty6
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Some of the machinery is ok but it would be a lot better if it were stored indoors. We have just come through a decade of well above normal precipitation that did not do it any favours.
Northvale PA
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So, I am wondering why? Why buy things, use them to the point of replacement then allow them to become virtually worthless? They went from used, to parts only, to scrap, to so much rust even a scrap yard would probably laugh. Why? Someone please explain the psychological sickness here, so I can understand it enough to avoid it. It is absolutely time I started getting rid of anything I don?t use anymore. Unbelievable........
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rusty6
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I can see we are worlds apart in our thoughts on keeping old machinery and vehicles. I can tell you mine gives me great satisfaction just knowing it is there. I have plenty of space to keep it so why not? I could have scrapped the 52 Merc 40 years ago. Instead now I get to restore it to the point I can drive it every day if I want to. Maybe some day I will do the same with those GMC trucks. Or maybe not. In any case, they will be around as long as I am here.
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rusty6
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(quoted from post at 21:01:06 11/20/18)Its rather ironic I am watching "American PIckers" on tv right now as I read this reply. If I have to explain the attraction of old iron to you, then you just don't get it. 12 cents a pound? Hold me back, I'm rich. Just kidding. I don't need the money that bad.
Jon Erickson
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Keep on collecting!
OregonAaron
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Nice video! I need to make one of my misc equipment, I have some neat old horse drawn implements laying around. I have a combine that looks like it may be that same as yours with a complete, un-siezed Wisconsin v4 engine.
One thing to keep in mind, scrap steel and iron has not always been as lucrative as recently. When some of that machinery was replaced, it wasn't worth the gas to haul it anywhere, and no one else wanted that "old" stuff. And as Rusty6 said, maybe he will fix it up--maybe he won't, but he loses that choice when he sends it down the road. To each his own. believe it--you just saw it. And seeing is believing, at least in this case. gobble
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rusty6
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Your Case looks to be the same Model A Case as the one I have here. My dad bought it new about 1949 for $1800. Used it til 1965 when he replaced it with the Massey Harris 60 self propelled. That V4 Wisconsin engine off the Case can be seen in some of my firewood sawing videos. My brother has it running just great. (And stored indoors!)
tractorguy2
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Very nice video. I thank you for taking the time to post it.
When I was much younger. Grandpa's pasture looked very similar to your trees. Grandpa had a MM G-4 combine and MM two row corn picker. Case one way plow and Case three bottom plow. Several McCormick seeders, David Bradley running gears, Van Brunt grain drills and other implements. It was grandma's idea to sell everything for scrap. I too this day wish she hadn't. There was One item in that pasture I sure would like to have now. Great grandfather's 1941 Farmall H. The motor was still free.
When my sister was married in 1987. Her husband made a video for me of his father's farm. They were Allis Chalmers people. Lots of faded orange iron in the trees. They had several Ford model A engines,Oliver two bottom plow, A 1936 WC, a 1940's WC, several WD tractors. One WD45, 1948 model C, a Case threshing machine and a 1918 Heider model C. My brother in laws brother last year pulled out the Allis Chalmers model C that there dad bought new and restored it. He also moved the 1918 Heider inside. The engine is still free after all these years. His great grandfather bought it brand new.
When I was much younger. Grandpa's pasture looked very similar to your trees. Grandpa had a MM G-4 combine and MM two row corn picker. Case one way plow and Case three bottom plow. Several McCormick seeders, David Bradley running gears, Van Brunt grain drills and other implements. It was grandma's idea to sell everything for scrap. I too this day wish she hadn't. There was One item in that pasture I sure would like to have now. Great grandfather's 1941 Farmall H. The motor was still free.
When my sister was married in 1987. Her husband made a video for me of his father's farm. They were Allis Chalmers people. Lots of faded orange iron in the trees. They had several Ford model A engines,Oliver two bottom plow, A 1936 WC, a 1940's WC, several WD tractors. One WD45, 1948 model C, a Case threshing machine and a 1918 Heider model C. My brother in laws brother last year pulled out the Allis Chalmers model C that there dad bought new and restored it. He also moved the 1918 Heider inside. The engine is still free after all these years. His great grandfather bought it brand new.
37chief
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It's kind of hard to explain why we collect things. I have my work tractors, then I have 11 AC Model M's, a few will run with a little tune up, and fresh gas. One I use in my disking business.
Then Probably 20 old motorcycles Three in restored condition. The rest are just keepers for now. Dad was different. If he didn't need it, it went to the scrap pile. Life is different for each of us I guess. Stan
Then Probably 20 old motorcycles Three in restored condition. The rest are just keepers for now. Dad was different. If he didn't need it, it went to the scrap pile. Life is different for each of us I guess. Stan
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rusty6
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Now that you mention it I recall doing a quick walk through that area with the Gopro when the leaves were colourful. I have not posted the video yet. But here is a pic from around that time.(quoted from post at 22:33:11 11/20/18) rusty6,
That was an excellent walk-about!! Thank you for posting it.
We need to do it again in late spring... when things are just greening up well and leaves have popped out but are still small. Rust and green look soooo good together.
I think if I had a dollar for every time I hear or see somebody write about how they wish they still had some old vehicle or piece of machinery from their youth, I could buy another rusty old car
I won't be that guy. I've still got it all.
jim buford
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One man's junk is another's treasure. Sure is nice to be able to keep, scrap or restore as one sees fit. There is no psychological problem here just a matter of taste.
I sure enjoyed the tour. Is the Cockshutt mower the kind that has the rope lift where a rope is running around a drum turned by the tractor PTO and the sickle bar was raised by pulling on the rope and tightening it around the drum?
This past June I sent my 1949 Chevy 3600 (3/4 ton) truck to Louisiana with my oldest grandson. He is the 4th owner. I ran out of energy enough to do any more restoration work to it and he will have much satisfaction continuing that. It is very similar to those GMCs in your tour.
A few comments on the 15-30 (22-36). My Dad's first tractor was a 22-36. The rear steel wheel extensions were factory though instead of home made. Yours look too symmetrical to be home made. Also the PTO was standard rather than optional. The end of the PTO shaft was a very heavy thread and I remember that the front PTO knuckle on the 10 ft JD grain binder had an inner thread to match. Later IHC made an adapter with inner threads to match the tractor shaft and the other end of the adapter was the spline that became the 540 RPM PTO of later vintage.
I would certainly expect that I could visit many old farm sites in North Dakota and find similar machines as you have shown on this tour.
Thanks again for making this available for us.
This past June I sent my 1949 Chevy 3600 (3/4 ton) truck to Louisiana with my oldest grandson. He is the 4th owner. I ran out of energy enough to do any more restoration work to it and he will have much satisfaction continuing that. It is very similar to those GMCs in your tour.
A few comments on the 15-30 (22-36). My Dad's first tractor was a 22-36. The rear steel wheel extensions were factory though instead of home made. Yours look too symmetrical to be home made. Also the PTO was standard rather than optional. The end of the PTO shaft was a very heavy thread and I remember that the front PTO knuckle on the 10 ft JD grain binder had an inner thread to match. Later IHC made an adapter with inner threads to match the tractor shaft and the other end of the adapter was the spline that became the 540 RPM PTO of later vintage.
I would certainly expect that I could visit many old farm sites in North Dakota and find similar machines as you have shown on this tour.
Thanks again for making this available for us.
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rusty6
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Ron, this video was just around home. The hundred acre woods farm yard will have to be a separate video. not quite as much interesting stuff there but still worth a look. Have to wait for a rare sunny day in Sask. before I shoot it though.
And yes, that Cockshutt mower had the rope -drum lift which worked ok but the old 50 really needed both hands to steer it. So once we got a welder I converted the mower to hydraulic lift which I think was a big improvement.
Paul Searl
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Would you have any pictures and serials on the Heider? trying to build a database of survivors.
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rusty6
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Unfortunately I only have a few surviving pieces of my grandfather's Rock Island Heider. I have theoperator's manual, the seat, the fenders. Most important of all I have the brass identification plate that has all the numbers identifying the tractor. I'll post pictures when I get time later this evening.
Paul Searl
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Rusty, even that's useful to me. Since so many heiders are missing their tractor tags, any surviving serial info helps narrow down tractor serials and cross reference with engine serials. I've also found a few lately that have added as many questions as answers so anything helps. Only our motor cultivators have tags, sadly none of our big heiders kept theirs.
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rusty6
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Here is the only photo I have of the Heider. My grandmother and 2 aunts on the tractor here likely in 1943 or 44. This is not a very good scan and I can do a better one if you need it. I'll have to get a separate picture of the plate as I can't find the one on file.
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rusty6
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And here is the tag of my grandfather's Heider. I was lucky to find it lying in the dust of the yard one day in perfect condition. The Heider was scrapped right here in the yard in the late 1940s.
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