Turn around--don't drown!!!!!!!!!

big tee

Well-known Member
We got home from the big pull at White Pine, Tenn. last night at 7---it was a long week-had a GREAT time. They pulled until 3:30 am Thur.---over 2000 hooks for the three days. A lot for a old man, tired. We hauled a guys tractor from South of Indy to the pull and back but Indiana got 3 inches of rain in the mean time. We left this little town and found water over the road blocking the way to his place--son had to back about 1/4 mi so we called the guy and he said wait there. He was just getting out of church and said "follow me"---He farms the land on both sides of the road and said the water was not that deep! It was an experience but we made it, more to come later---Tee
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That is a sore subject to me. Not long ago a cop died due to the fact he was to stupid to not have turned back and he is being called a hero for killing him self because he did not turn around like he should have
 
Looks deep to me ?
The other day we had lots of rain ( again ) some roads were closed from flooding. I drove past the signs and went on ahead for a look. I took the turn around don't drown seriously and turned around ! went up the road to another that was still open.
 
Out here if you go around a barricade and drive on a flooded street, it's instant ticket. A road just below my place would flood about every rain. Cars would try and go through it. Most made it. Those who went through fast, some would suck water in, and lock up the engine. More than one once those with standard transmissions would try and pull start the car again. They couldn't figure why the rear wheels just locked up. I convinced one guy to pull the plugs. He thought I was just a stupid old man. Water shot out of the plug holes. By that time the motor was probably ruined with bent rods. The city finally put in a bridge, then the fun was over. Stan
 
Me also. You may know the road. But how do you know the road is still there. Man down here was killed because he knew where the road was. But didn't know the road had been washed out.
 
Have been to and heard of far too many calls where someone "knew" an area very well, and certainly "knew" the water wasn't very deep. What they "knew" too late was, the road had washed out!

The common saying is "[i:92704f2af9]Turn around; don't drown[/i:92704f2af9]". Too many people need more than simply a suggestion. I wish they'd change that saying to something that includes educating/reminding folks that roads often wash out without notice!
 
When I was a kid, I had a '55 Chevy. During a big rainy period, myself and several other fools were driving down this rural gravel road and came to a long stretch of flooded creek bottom. It was backwater from Beaucoup Creek - not flowing. The little bridge ahead was under water, but the rails were sticking out, so I had something to aim for. There was a '49 Chevy pickup facing us on the other side of the flooded area, with an old man in it. His wipers were slowly moving. I eased out across that flooded area, crossed the bridge and pulled up triumphantly beside the old man in the pickup. His first words were, "I wondered if those bridge boards had floated away like they usually do." One of the guys in the back seat slapped me in the back of the head. I deserved it.
 
No barricades--only a sign that says--water may be over road. They farm right up to the road and you could see the beans they missed sticking out of the water. They have no ditches--we have 5 footers. The road was a 2 lane narrow blacktop. The owner of the tractor said "this is the sh-- we put up with in Indiana--??? Pic of son driving his UB---Tee
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Is that the same creek north of Murphysboro the non-local news men pronounce "bee cop"? I grew up on the north end of Kinkaid creek, near the quarry.
 
You burned all your luck on that one. What if he was 1 foot off on his guess on where the road is? What if the water had washed out a section of road as it moved in and the other guy wasn't aware of it? You're bragging about taking a dumb risk. Way to go.

As they say - Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with old age. Sometimes old age just shows up on its own
 
Tee .... your reply "you started it" ..... ha, you can do better than that for sure. BUT, I can see you getting annoyed though with some of the replies .... ie Dumb and Dumber, etc. I think those fellas could have got their message across without being quite so rude, pretty nasty and unnecessary. I'm sure you had a good plan going in, but like Mike Tyson once said, every fighter has a plan until he gets punched in the nose.
 
The guy in the white pu lives just up the road and says this happens all the time. The water is just sitting there--not running 30 mph over the road! We were going slow enough that if he ran in and couldn't back out he probably would have took off his Sunday go to meetinghouse shoes and walked home and got his Deere 9400 4-wd tractor and we would have pulled him out. The water is NOT 50 ft. deep!---Tee
 
Cheer up Big T - I'm glad you made it ok.

On your original post, you say, "He was just getting out of church and said "follow me"". Sounds like he had already driven through it at least once on his way to church.
 
Bragging????????????????? We brought the guys tractor back. His Dad died in July and the guy in the white truck wanted someone to take his tractor to White Pine to pull it as a memorial to his Dad for he was still harvesting and was not going to the pull but it rained and he went after all. Bragging????????????????---Tee
 
Yes - it was actually backwater from Beaucoup across Saupe Road, about a mile east of Oraville. Ruben Saupe was the old man in the truck. Nice guy, now deceased.

I can hear the quarry blast here at the house. Maybe three miles as the crow flies.
 
We been dry as a bone for year and a half. Finally got some sizeable rain this fall. Maybe it was overlooked, but water got up and over some roads and the roads never got barrocated. I ran into water over the road in my car a couple times during night time driving. That's dangerous! Un-barrocated water over the roads at night. Can't see it untill you already in it. Kind of ticked me off because one place was a county road, the other was a state highway. Should of no doubt been barrocated.
 
That's flat land catch basin (back) water. Such water does not wash out anything.

If the local knows the road, I would trust him but he really should slow down a bit.

Dean
 
THANKS Dean---It is good to here from someone with good common sense on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!---Tee
 
Did you have to return through the same water? I think I would have unloaded the friend's tractor some place safe and let them bring it home after the water went back down. A good friend would understand.
 
Dang T you were close to me! Heck that ain't water that's a puddle! I had to go thru almost 2 feet last week when we got the rain. Where did you pick the tractor up at?
 
PJH ..... Hmmmm, I suspect the fact that he was leaving church and asked someone to follow him ensured everyone that nothing bad could happen. Some have found out the hard way that it's not the best course of action either outside or inside of a church !!
 
BRAGGING????? Rocky--You want bragging--I guess I know about flood waters---did you ever win your states Governor's life saving award?? My son and I did. Pulled 2 elderly people out of their car after their car was covered with flood waters in front of our house. BRAGG---there --Now you can say I bragged---Tee

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Know the guy in white truck,know the tractor.Pulled with his dad for 50 years.Great family doubt you would have been steered wrong.
 
You should have unloaded the gulf cart and tested how deep it was first. What's up with the JD item in the picture?
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(quoted from post at 13:27:52 11/05/18) THANKS Dean---It is good to here from someone with good common sense on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!---Tee

Ever hear of sink holes???

I've lived all my life in flatlands country. Up here, the rivers and creeks just seem to slowly rise up, stay, then slowly recede. The hidden problem is from soil washing away. Don't matter if it's fast water that quickly takes the ground surface or the fill around an old culvert that has been slowly eroding away for years under ground, unknown to anyone. And that's just one scenario of several.

You'll likely get through 99 times out of 100. Problem is, that 100th time can come at any point! Yup, the local guy who drives through the flooded waters all the time....at SOME point, he's gonna go through just assuming everything is as it "[i:e06673a556]normally[/i:e06673a556]" is. But then, what do I know??
 
Thanks Sking. Did not know the Dad--just met Scott. We got home a 7 last night--Son works third shift at Deeres and still went in last night so is still sleeping. Good guy on here 4520 wants to know name of town and how close we were to him. Can you help me? Did you pull pro-stock with Scotts Dad? THANKS---Tee
 
(quoted from post at 14:18:24 11/05/18) BRAGGING????? Rocky--You want bragging--I guess I know about flood waters---did you ever win your states Governor's life saving award?? My son and I did. Pulled 2 elderly people out of their car after their car was covered with flood waters in front of our house. BRAGG---there --Now you can say I bragged---Tee

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Good for you on being the “rescuer”. I guess you now have the itch to be the “rescued”.

I think you knew what I meant- you had a “hold my beer” adventure, and you wanted us all to heap praise on you for successfully not ditching your pickup in flood water. Sorry I didn’t strike your ego for you.
 
Cody Meister from Wis. forgot his gloves when he rode back to the motel the night before. Moonshine---Tee

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You were close to Tampico.Scotty's grandpa was Ntpa 7000 SS point champ once or twice back in the 70's with a 4010.Ya have run super,pro,antique,and the dreaded southern Indiana open farm.
 
What part of NO DITCHS do you people not understand??? The road has NO DITCHS--No CULVERTS--NOTHING TO WASH OUT--FLAT LAND--CLEAR now?
 
Hi 4520--Have not talked to you in a long time. Picked the tractor up at Scott Tiapions??sp. A town called Tampico--Tee
 
Scott started pulling on a U.It looked like a driverless tractor because sitting in the seat his head was lower than the fenders.
 
That's were my dads family is from! Scott is a distant relative of mine. Did you go up 65 thru seymour?
 
Yes.I was talking to Phil a couple of years ago at the Salem,In pull and asked him how big the UB was and he said aw hell it's a good 3 bottom tractor!
 
Yep he does a good job.Of course he doesn't have any other choice being a 4th generation tractor puller and the old UB does run good.
 
NO--There was only one--it ran from Maynard, Iowa to White Pine, Tenn. 5 min. from ya--Shucks. Son was driving and was in hurry--he works third shift at Deeres in Waterloo---maybe next time---Tee
 
My niece's husband was a engineer at Cummins in Columbus in the late 90's--we stopped and saw them on our way to the Louisville show and he gave us a after hours tour.---Tee
 
I guess it's not a "No Wake Zone".
My son's best friend has a 66 scout. He called and said he had gone through some deep water and flooded his truck out could be come help him. My son asked him what about "Turn around don't drown"? He said his motto was "Over the hood I'm good".
Ron
 
Tee ..... you should know keyboard etiquette..... DON'T YELL !!! I have sensitive eyes .... ha !!! I'll say one thing for you in this discussion, you've got your side of the story and yer stickin' to it !!!
 
The farm I grew up on is west off of Keller Highway. Crazy Joe's fish house is where dad's machine shed set. I hadn't been out that way for many years. Last Memorial Day weekend I drove through the area. Nothing is the same. There are at least seven homes on the farm my parents had.
 
I used to have to drive a highway in Kentucky which the Mississippi River covered the road and they put flags on each side of the road so you could tell where it was. It was probably a 20'-30' drop on either side if you ran off. It was probably about a 5 mile stretch that was under water.
 
During 93 flood some people I know went to check equipment through the flood waters. made it there ok. On the trip back they found a tiny sink hole. About twenty feet deep. All three made it out of the truck, but two of them were hospitalized for a few weeks. People went out with a boat, found the truck. Hooked an anchor and a float. when the waters receded, the float was there and the sink hole was gone. Didn't bother to try after that. Truck is still under the road some where.
 
As a guy that over the years has driven thru many miles of flood backwater I would sure trust the farmer that lives there and is leading the way for me...He's the one thats going to get it if theres a problem...For years I worked with a lady that for a week at a time had to drive thru a mile of river flood backwater going and coming in order to get to work..There was no current so it never washed out..If it got too deep for her Expedition she boated in and out..

I posted this picture of a Kansas farm road low water crossing on a forum....I got chewed out by people for driving across it..It was during a drought and there was no moving water..I got out and checked things over..I didn't make it to my age by being stupid..More than once I've had to turn around because it was easy to see that the water was too deep or swift so it wasn't safe..



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I think I work with him some on the ISX 600hp DOHC back in the mid to late 90s. Did he also help with Hoosier deere pulling tractor?
 
I was at the auction when Bill's 4010 sold. Think.someome bought it over the phone. I did buy his 7720 and still have it for a back up.
 
If the local farmer trusts the water I would have to trust him. A road going by the south side of my farm will flood like that, it flooded twice this year. It’s just a pond with no moving, running water and has never washed out and will never wash a vehicle off the road, not even close. I do know how deep it is by where the water starts covering the road and I do drive through it on occasion. However, if I can’t see the tops of the brome grass on the shoulder I don’t go there.
 
Linda and I went to school with your brother Sid, and knew your mom and dad real well. Also grandma Hulda and her brother Sam.

I was scared to death of your dad when I was a kid. I worked for Junior Wright, and your dad brought his red International pickup in for me to service one morning. He wanted to make sure I found all of the grease fittings - it even had fittings on the leaf spring hangers - so he was under the lift as I was greasing it. I stuck the gun on the clutch linkage, and it blew both ends of the cross tube out on the ground. I knew your dad would kill me, but he thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen. We got it back together and were friends ever after.

We missed Sid at the class reunion last summer. Hope he's doing well.

Good to hear from you Greg.
 
Good to hear from you too. Sid is well. He lives in the northwest Chicago area and will likely stay there. (been there since 1979)
 
Yes Doug did--He used to talk them into coming to the Iowa State Fair. I have been trying to think of their names. Is Hart one of them?---Tee
 
If you drop a vehicle through thin lake ice, auto insurance companies won't pay for any of the vehicle damage or for the vehicle recovery. Is it handled any differently when driving through flood water?
 
(quoted from post at 19:51:34 11/05/18) If you drop a vehicle through thin lake ice, auto insurance companies won't pay for any of the vehicle damage or for the vehicle recovery. Is it handled any differently when driving through flood water?

That completely depends on your insurance. If the policy doesn't expressly exclude driving on ice and you have full coverage it's covered.

Rick
 
Didn't have any of it. A good ol boy from Oklahoma brought it. They said it was smooth and tasted like fresh apples.---Tee
 
(quoted from post at 23:42:45 11/05/18) Main thing is if the Life Insurance pays(LOL)

Actually we have a number of people who put vehicles/snowmobiles/ATVs through the ice here every year with very few deaths. MN records 5-6 deaths per year on average.

Rick
 
In my area it rarely gets cold enough to get out on any ice,but one extremely cold Winter back in the 80's a big lake froze over and this fellow from Europe was out skating on the lake about
every day.Local paper did a story on him that came out on a Sunday he was explaining how he was an expert on judging ice thickness,strength etc.On Monday he went thru the ice and drowned.
This thread reminded me of that event(LOL)
 

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