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Dean

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Folks, the B-36 was designed in the early stages of WWII.

It was the worlds first strategic bomber, and could drop a thermonuclear bomb just about anywhere on the globe.

For those of you who are interested, there is one inside at the US Air Force Museum in Dayton OH.

Dean
Convair B36
 
Awesome!

When I was at NAS Atsugi, Japan in 1959 one landed and was parked for a couple of days. You really didn't get the impact of how big it was until you walked up to the main landing gear.
 
I have a cutaway technical drawing of one (more than 18 inches of illustration) they are by far the most complex plane with piston engines. enjoy Jim
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No Dr. Strangelove he was flying a B-52. Don't forget those body fluids. That is one crazy movie. The one even better is Fail Safe. B-58 Hustler. What a great looking machine. Mach-2 baby!!!
 
Seems I recall when working a project at the now-Lockheed plant in Fort Worth a few year ago, I was told that plant produced these planes. The story was the tail was too tall to be assembled inside so it was attached after the plane left the building.
 
Haven't gotten there yet. A building big enough to hold a Peace Maker must be huge!! The video is a group of guys who just about completely restored a B-36. The creeps at the AirForce told them there is no way you can fly it!!!!!!! That plane is a Strategic Weapon. Can carry a nuke. No how no way. Twits.
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I've been there and I've seen it, jeffcat.

They built the building around it in the early 1960s.

Go if you can. The AF Museum is certainly something to see.

Dean
 
(quoted from post at 15:42:57 11/04/18) Haven't gotten there yet. A building big enough to hold a Peace Maker must be huge!! The video is a group of guys who just about completely restored a B-36. The creeps at the AirForce told them there is no way you can fly it!!!!!!! That plane is a Strategic Weapon. Can carry a nuke. No how no way. Twits.
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Something doesn't sound right. Our smaller nukes today weigh less than 125 pounds (yield is about what we used on Japan), are a tad over 6" across and about 2 feet long. So that would make a Cessna a potential strategic bomber. Plus they fly B29's, at lest what few remain and they too were used as strategic nuclear bombers until they were replaced. B36 is just an airplane without a bomb load. But I still think there is something someone ain't telling and someone else made up a story that sounds good on the surface.

Rick
 
Then being told they would have to deal with the Coca Cola Co. when the broke in to get dimes for the phone. Great stuff and highly political at the time. Now.....?
 
The first thermonuclear bombs weighed in at 35,000-40,000 pounds. Much has change since then.

There is a replica of one of the later thermonuclear bombs carried by the B36 underneath one of the wings of the B36 at the AF Museum. IIRC, the plaque stated that it weighed 10,000 pounds.

Dean
 

There was one parked at Chanute AFB when I was in Hound Dog Missel school there. Some of the glass was broken on the cockpit and birds had nested in it.
Elmo
 
(quoted from post at 19:35:15 11/04/18) The first thermonuclear bombs weighed in at 35,000-40,000 pounds. Much has change since then.

There is a replica of one of the later thermonuclear bombs carried by the B36 underneath one of the wings of the B36 at the AF Museum. IIRC, the plaque stated that it weighed 10,000 pounds.

Dean
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ittle Boy-9,700 pounds and Fat Boy-10,800 pounds for 21kilo tons TNT equiv.

No sweat a few decades later to obtain 1 -2 mega ton equiv from 2,000 pounds.
 
When they first flew they only had single wheel landing gear just like the B17's. The loading on the runways was so great the concrete had to be like 8' thick. In the beginning there were only three bases they could land at. Later on they redesigned the landing gear with bogies with multiple tires. There is still one landing strut with the single wheel on display at the Air Force Museum. The tire is about 10' tall.


OTJ
 
This one is at Pima in Tucson. B 36 was also known as the Peacemaker, as it was a deterrent for nuclear war by any agressor. Talk about walking softly but carrying a big stick....
Ben
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You can look up the data on all the Atomic weapons we had in the late 50s. I was in the Army stationed at Killeen Base while there we dismanteled the MK6 and worked on several models they can now be seen at the Atomic Museium in ALBQ,NM The MK28 came out in early 60 size of a fuel tank on a Jet fighter hell of a yield.There is a film shot of our underground place where I worked it closed in 64 one hell of an experience for a farm boy from IOWA to end up with top secret clearance to do all the things we did there was the only site the Army maintained
 
(quoted from post at 19:46:21 11/04/18)
There was one parked at Chanute AFB when I was in Hound Dog Missel school there. Some of the glass was broken on the cockpit and birds had nested in it.
Elmo
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Marched by the B 36 at Chanute every day going to tech school in the fall of 1976. The B 36 is now on display at The Castle AFB CA museum. Moved there around 1991 or 92.

Rodney 8)
 
When they built DFW Airport in Grapevine, Texas, they had to close the municipal airport in Ft, Worth. That is where the last B-36 was setting and had to be removed. Volunteers got it all ready to fly and the USAF said it is a weapon and would not give permission. I think it had to be trucked out, never heard where.
 
Dean, Your video of the B-36 takeoff is a southbound takeoff from Carswell AFB in Ft. Worth, Texas with Lake Worth in the background. They were built at that base by Convair.
 
The Peacemaker it was called.

In my earlier years I loved to hear those babies come over the house. They were so high you could barely see them except for the contrails, but the drone.....unmistakeable. Interesting how they connected the tail gunner and his duty station to the rest of the aircraft. For a long time I had a big picture of one that crashed in Iceland or Greenland, crew survived, hanging on my wall when a youngster. Never worked on it. When I came along the jets had taken over. Flew over Carswell AFB once and saw it's cargo version, the XC-99.......huge by the standards of the day....obviously there are some larger/faster cargo planes today.

But the SAC motto "Peace is our Profession" is just that. Get big enough and bad enough so that people leave you alone!!!! War is he11. Prevent it if you can.
 
On the B-58, one evening, on a Northerly heading, right about dusk, sun just going over the horizon, at around 30k', carpet of white clouds below, a pair met us for some gas. They pulled up one at a time and filled up. When finished, they dropped back a bit, laid over on a right wing, hit the burners and 4 orange glows went off in the darkness to the East. Will never forget that event!

I found an old Plastic 1/72 scale model on ebay a few years ago and fixed her up and added to my collection. I worked with guys (elsewhere) who were part of the design/development team at Carswell. Had some black and white films of some of their testing and some problems that had to be solved. Made for interesting viewing.

Again, something that was there, had a job to do, and wasn't needed. Wink!
 
Fascinating, Shinnery.

I believe the footage is from the movie Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart.

Dean
 
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