Hemp is the hot 'new' crop here. Everybody got caught up with planting,growing and making 'truckloads of money.Seems they never considered storing the harvested crop. They cut the plant off at the ground and hang it up to dry,much like tobacco.It is all hand work.One outfit has 30 workers harvesting/hanging/transporting?. 16 acres-by hand.there are hundreds of acres being grown here this year.some people have 80-100 acres,or more. So shed space is in pretty short supply.What about the hanging wt? Are these sheds/barns going to stand,or collapse?They tell me that it needs to dry down to 8%.They tell me it should not freeze. It is supposed to freeze next week. they should have been harvesting a month ago. But they just let it grow to get "maximum yield".Looks to me that a lot of farmers/growers are going to be in trouble. Glad I'm not one of them.No hemp for me.
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Steve@Advance
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I would think security would be the most important concern!
Many, many years ago I used to do some work on a mans cars, he was the older brother of a high school mate.
I knew all his occupations weren't exactly on the up and up. One day he came by the shop, needed me to ride home with him and bring his car back to the shop.
When we got there he opened the gate to the back yard and wanted to show me something...
He had probably 3 acres of head high pot plants! The most I had ever seen, a major operation, no telling what it was worth!
I congratulated him on his crop, got out of there!
It wasn't 2 days later, he was out of town, someone harvested it for him! Stole all of it from what I heard.
My first thought, and panic, he probably thinks I did it, or that I told someone about it!
He never said anything, I never brought it up, don't know if he ever found out who did it. I sure was wishing he had never shown it to me though!
Many, many years ago I used to do some work on a mans cars, he was the older brother of a high school mate.
I knew all his occupations weren't exactly on the up and up. One day he came by the shop, needed me to ride home with him and bring his car back to the shop.
When we got there he opened the gate to the back yard and wanted to show me something...
He had probably 3 acres of head high pot plants! The most I had ever seen, a major operation, no telling what it was worth!
I congratulated him on his crop, got out of there!
It wasn't 2 days later, he was out of town, someone harvested it for him! Stole all of it from what I heard.
My first thought, and panic, he probably thinks I did it, or that I told someone about it!
He never said anything, I never brought it up, don't know if he ever found out who did it. I sure was wishing he had never shown it to me though!
Makes one wonder how much of the crop is legal this year, and how much was already farmed on a large scale in past years.
As in any industry, if profits are there someone will find a way to mechanize and automate the process. Early adapters will sell at top prices and make a ton of profit. As the supply increases, prices will fall, and the high labor/high cost operations will fall away.
As in any industry, if profits are there someone will find a way to mechanize and automate the process. Early adapters will sell at top prices and make a ton of profit. As the supply increases, prices will fall, and the high labor/high cost operations will fall away.
connor9988
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Delta Red I think industrial hemp would be a nice addition to the legal crops. I have heard that it is on the next farm bill. I dont see any harm in it since people cant smoke it to get high and it produces lots of good products from every part of the plant. It looks like you cut and thresh it with a combine to get the seed while windrowing it and baling it after to then use (sell) the stover.
Industrial hemp makes a stronger and softer fabric than cotton. It also makes good paper and oils that are used in plastics and all kinds of other uses. That is just the tip of the ice berg too.
There are some people who I have talked to about legalizing industrial hemp and they get a look of panic in their eyes when I tell them that it isn't a crop to get them high.
Industrial hemp makes a stronger and softer fabric than cotton. It also makes good paper and oils that are used in plastics and all kinds of other uses. That is just the tip of the ice berg too.
There are some people who I have talked to about legalizing industrial hemp and they get a look of panic in their eyes when I tell them that it isn't a crop to get them high.
Traditional Farmer
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Apparently a company is contracting for Hemp growers in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia I'm reading in the papers,they want it baled in either large square bales or large round bales.
As far as it being akin to Pot.So what? People have been making Moonshine out of corn around here for years no one has suggested to outlaw corn.
As far as it being akin to Pot.So what? People have been making Moonshine out of corn around here for years no one has suggested to outlaw corn.
john in la
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If a person said they were growing Jute; Flax; or Kenaf; no one would thing twice about it.
But tell someone you are growing Hemp; and everyone turns their head to listen.
But tell someone you are growing Hemp; and everyone turns their head to listen.
DeltaRed, I wonder if this will mean a come-back of the manufacture of Hemp Rope. After the advent of Nylon and all of the other synthetic ropes, I thought the use of hemp rope had all but completely died out. I still have a 200 foot coil of 1.5 inch diameter Manila Hemp Rope thats essentially like a "new" rope even though its over 50 years old, as it has had very little use. In my opinion, (speaking strictly of ropes) nothing feels as good in the hands as a good, soft Manila Hemp Rope.
Back in the 1940s a good tough fiber was something special, and hemp fibers were quite a deal to develop, it would have been big.
Today a whole lot of synthetic fibers can be blended into nearly and fiber one needs, stronger, rot proof, abrasion resistant, non absorbent, all types of properties. There is far less -need- for natural fibers on an industrial scale.
Lots of milenials have gotten on the ?we need hemp to save the family farm? bandwagon, without understanding the laws of supply and demand and how time and technology has moved on.
Ultimately, the demand for the fiber will never get very big, so it will be a small deal.
It?s fine, any few 100 or thousand acres of alternative crop is indeed an alternative.
The biggest market appears to be making tee shirts of the fibers (by beating the natural toughness out of them, ironically) with a pot leaf logo screened on it?
Really in the big picture, I?m not sure such ?demand? is going to turn agriculture around.
Jerusilum artichoke and emus might make a comeback sooner!
The window of opportunity for it to be a big deal came and went as the synthetic fibers have been developed.
It will be a nitche, but it won?t be the big deal you hear.
Paul
Today a whole lot of synthetic fibers can be blended into nearly and fiber one needs, stronger, rot proof, abrasion resistant, non absorbent, all types of properties. There is far less -need- for natural fibers on an industrial scale.
Lots of milenials have gotten on the ?we need hemp to save the family farm? bandwagon, without understanding the laws of supply and demand and how time and technology has moved on.
Ultimately, the demand for the fiber will never get very big, so it will be a small deal.
It?s fine, any few 100 or thousand acres of alternative crop is indeed an alternative.
The biggest market appears to be making tee shirts of the fibers (by beating the natural toughness out of them, ironically) with a pot leaf logo screened on it?
Really in the big picture, I?m not sure such ?demand? is going to turn agriculture around.
Jerusilum artichoke and emus might make a comeback sooner!
The window of opportunity for it to be a big deal came and went as the synthetic fibers have been developed.
It will be a nitche, but it won?t be the big deal you hear.
Paul
Bruce from Can.
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Both hemp and switch grass get talked about in the Ag press from time to time, and brought out as the crop that will save the farm. So far, mostly just talk. The idea is hemp and switch grass could be processed and pelleted for a use as fuel, for a variety of uses. Switch grass needs to only be planted once every 7 years, and grows well on poor soil, with minimum care, and is harvested each year. Like hemp, hasn?t move corn or beans out of the way yet
Hemp was doing good as long as the ships had sails, when steam engine on ships started Hemp was not needed in great supply.Hemp was grown in the north more. In the south the warm climate the hemp had some poor thc, the slaves was getting high. So cotton was on top again and hemp was only grown in the north.
BarnyardEngineering
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Still amazes me how many people STILL have it in their heads that:
hemp = m a r i j u a n a
You can smoke a whole field of hemp and get nothing but lung cancer.
NY state is running a pilot program to study the viability of hemp. I looked into it but from what I can tell the only money in it is in the form of state grants. It's just another boondoggle. You have to be running some sort of "study" and there's no market for the crop. You destroy the crop at the end of the growing season.
Plus you need some ridiculous amount of "security" because the idiots in Albany still think hemp is pot! Fences, cameras, etc..
hemp = m a r i j u a n a
You can smoke a whole field of hemp and get nothing but lung cancer.
NY state is running a pilot program to study the viability of hemp. I looked into it but from what I can tell the only money in it is in the form of state grants. It's just another boondoggle. You have to be running some sort of "study" and there's no market for the crop. You destroy the crop at the end of the growing season.
Plus you need some ridiculous amount of "security" because the idiots in Albany still think hemp is pot! Fences, cameras, etc..
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Hundreds of things are being made out of Hemp all over the World right now,be a lot smarter to grow Hemp that is in demand than crops with low prices.The only thing that is holding
Hemp back now is Gov't stupidity.
Hemp back now is Gov't stupidity.
Traditional Farmer
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Corn and Beans aren't illegal so that gives them the leg up for sure.There is a company in Rockingham County VA that has a contract with I think about 30 or 40 growers to supply Hemp for something they do.Many uses for Hemp the Gov't just needs to get out of the way.Growers are required to cut it with a sickle bar mower and bale it with a large round or square baler.There is a large group of farmers wanting to sign up to be growers so they must think it'll be profitable.Up side for me I have a pretty good inventory of sickle mowers I'll be advertising.(LOL)
Traditional Farmer
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They use the whole stalk and don't want it torn up,can't see how running anything thru a combine would be the way to go to bale it up.Do you cut hay with a combine?
Hemp was a new crop during WW2 in central Iowa. Probably more places.. There were 3 processing plants that I know of within 50 miles of me. Hemp rope was a substitute for rope traditionally procured from some Pacific countries that were either captured by the Japanese or in danger of capture. I guess it caused high demand for hand labor. I heard of turning windrows with a pitchfork to dry. Some Italian prisoners of war were used for labor. They fed and sheltered them and paid them a wage. It was not slave labor. Very low security risk, I was told. A number of them stayed after the war as they were treated well. A lot better than dodging bullets.
connor9988
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I should have been more specific Traditional Farmer. I apologize. The videos I have seen of it they raised the cutter bar up to get as little plant material besides the seed and then came through later and cut/baled the rest. This is only what I have seen in videos and I am extrapolating some.
Traditional Farmer
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Yea the buyer is going to use the whole plant.Now I'm getting this from a newspaper article but I do personally know a couple that have signed up to be growers so I'll be able to
see it first hand next year.
see it first hand next year.
A problem is that the biggest proponents of hemp are also the biggest druggies that push for free weed on every corner. The Woody Heralsoms
of the world.
Hemp would have come around a lot sooner if those groups had gone away, and real people with real ideas were in the forefront.
It?s fairly easy for the pot growers to hide their plants in a hemp field, and so there is that very natural attraction, and potential issue. That
keeps all the security issues in the forefront.
Paul
of the world.
Hemp would have come around a lot sooner if those groups had gone away, and real people with real ideas were in the forefront.
It?s fairly easy for the pot growers to hide their plants in a hemp field, and so there is that very natural attraction, and potential issue. That
keeps all the security issues in the forefront.
Paul
Case Nutty 1660
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I have been pushing Hard here in Wyoming to be able to grow it, but the dip sticks in charge think you can get high from it,, Brain Dead thinking,, I am hoping we can start voting out the brain washed idiots here and get with the program,, but right now its like talking to a post only the post listens better
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Most of you seem to think I'm against hemp. I'm not.Not at all. I'm excited about a new cash crop.However I'm being cacious. I actually plowed,worked up a lot of ground for some hemp growers. they all gave me lots of information.I'm open to growing if the ducks get in their row.
I don't think that is the point in most instances. The point is marijuana can be grown in a field of hemp and be difficult to trace. I had an extension guy out earlier in the
year on another matter but he had just come from a grower interested in hemp. The extension guy's opinion was that there were a lot of obstacles to overcome to make
hemp viable in the US not counting the marijuana association issue.
year on another matter but he had just come from a grower interested in hemp. The extension guy's opinion was that there were a lot of obstacles to overcome to make
hemp viable in the US not counting the marijuana association issue.
dr sportster
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A synthetic fiber rope cannot be inspected . Fall man supporting rope they always use natural rope. A nylon rope exposed to chemicals will fail immediately.
Same here. I?m all for new crops and new uses and more farming opportunities.
Just seen a lot of get rich quick ideas presented over the years, all end up a flash in the pan.
Soybeans are the last really big deal to hit, dad remembered when they were new and mostly a forage/ hay crop.
Emus, artichokes, ostrich, sunflowers(here, I understand they are important west of here), and other such ideas have a lot of hype, and then fizzle in about 3 years leaving the farmers holding the bills.
This hemp stuff keeps getting hyped by the wrong people.
I?d be real scared investing in it.
Paul
Just seen a lot of get rich quick ideas presented over the years, all end up a flash in the pan.
Soybeans are the last really big deal to hit, dad remembered when they were new and mostly a forage/ hay crop.
Emus, artichokes, ostrich, sunflowers(here, I understand they are important west of here), and other such ideas have a lot of hype, and then fizzle in about 3 years leaving the farmers holding the bills.
This hemp stuff keeps getting hyped by the wrong people.
I?d be real scared investing in it.
Paul
Hay hay hay
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I keep hearing about all the uses for hemp, but since it has not been legal for a long time, it seems likely that it will take a period of time for the new processing plants to be built and then a while longer to develop customers, uses and end users. Further if it is going to require a significant amount of physical labor to cut and hang it (like tobacco did here) that may be a real challenge. Finding tobacco labor became a serious issue in the last decade when it was still big in Kentucky ( 2005-----2015).
My point is that hemp markets will probably take some time to develop.
Our recent state Ag commissioner talked like it was going to transform ag overnight...it hasn't so far.
My point is that hemp markets will probably take some time to develop.
Our recent state Ag commissioner talked like it was going to transform ag overnight...it hasn't so far.
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